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[LOCKED] EverymanHYBRID 2011
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Anonymousity
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My bet is Steph is busy OOC, but her being off-video is kinda troubling.

As for Evan/HABIT: I was one of the "Jessa is HABIT"-persons, but Evan's mom even called him HABIT. That's his frigging name. She also seemed content (from what I remember) that her son was totally cool, so no HABIT-rape on that side, as with Nick.

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shy lil derp wrote:
Sorry if this has been discussed before (the page count on this thread has jumped significantly) but is there anything to suggest that Steph isn't the one who's inHABIT'd? Obviously the tie between Evan and Habit is really clear, but I"m really wondering where Steph fits into all of this.

We haven't heard from her or seen her in a long time, but these posts are all coming from her blog...they're obviously first person accounts, but are they real or fictionalized? If they're real, where are they coming from? Is the person writing them possessed, or is Habit uploading them directly? Obviously Evan has access to her computer, but considering Occam's razor, wouldn't Steph be the one uploading these?

Habit has given us info before without using CYSTW (like the minecraft stuff) and there are many ways for information to be presented to us Hybrids, so the fact that all of this is coming from Steph's blog seems important to me. We know Evan is staying with her and that he's been keeping an eye on her blog since the early days, but we haven't heard anything from her in a while and I'm curious if there's a reason for that.

Again, sorry if this has been discussed to death and I'm just rehashing.


You just helped me frame some of my thoughts.
The question of Slenderman's purpose has been on my mind for-FREAKING-ever. It really is the core of the series for me. While the Iterations and Corenthal and Habit and Rake stuff has been interesting and made the mystery deeper, this all started with Slendy. So, over the course of the series we've been given many hints that Slendy is not necessarily nefarious. I don't think he's a good thing per say...but follow me on this.

Steph is CONVINCED that Slendy is responsible for the death of her family. And based on the evidence presented earlier in the series there was no reason to assume otherwise. But a lot of evidence coming out lately...Shy Lil Derp is on to something. In all of the writings from the past, and now in Habit's stories, Slenderman has never been presented as responsible for any horrific deaths. He's been PRESENT, but recent stories have had Slendy present, but Habit clearly the one responsible for the carnage. So lets re-evaluate Steph's story with this in mind.
I posit she was/is/has been just as inHabited as Evan. I posit that, under Habit's control she did kill her family and burned down the house, but only remembers seeing Slendy, not Habit.
She was RIGHT to think she should be in psychiatric care. The fact that she's out now may actually be a terrible mistake. It could be that she and Evan are supposed to fight, as per the experiment Habit references in the most recent entry. Oh, and the fact that these are coming in through CYSTW was probably a big hint that we simply overlooked as being too simple.

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Oh, and I'm thinking about the Slenderman video, where Evan is seen sitting at a table talking to someone who is later revealed to not be there. Then he goes and attacks Vince. While this video was never confirmed as being in or out of continuity, I think it's still relevant (indeed I believe it, Welcome to the Ark and the Candle elements from the latest Morse video are all in the same verse, and are sequential.) I'm fairly certain we can assume, based on the latest evidence that Evan was talking to Habit, became inHabited and attacked Vinnce.

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So TONS of thoughts on this new cystw post, I guess I'll start with why I am so interested in it - some epic coincidences

My name is Nick, I have been referred to as both "strong as shit" and "big as a motherfucker", and I went to kindergarden in a town 10 minutes from the boys. If only I had a dog named Chowder...

Now on to real stuff - good catch on them referencing a Nick way back when they thought it was all a prank, but if memory serves - is Greenfeathers real name Nick? It kind of stood out to me in those videos because Evan brought it up. Sorry if that's irrelevant or if I'm exposing someone's personal identity, or even if I misheard/misremembered.

I have several ideas about who/what is going to be fought, (could be the Rake or Evan or Alex or ????) but I'll work off of the idea that an Evan/Nick showdown is coming- This kind of reminds me of Supernatural where -


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A demon "sires" a bunch of kids who start showing signs of being "special" around age 22, and then abducts them all and pits them in a battle royale, the winner of which gets to be used for the rest of his plans

and fyi as a plug for Supernatural, this story is the end of Season 2 of a pretty epic 5 season story


It would seem that Habit "passes on" through generations, possibly willingly in the case of MTEvans mother, or by rape in this case. This makes me worried by the possible hints at romance between Evan and Steph - as well as her recent absence

If Habit does possess people and pass on through generations - well that has a whole new set of possibilites in relation to the repeating cycle idea, which I'll save for another post, as this one is wall of texty enough already

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It's also sort of in line with the "why did god create a dual universe?"-line... Where "evil" is being passed on from one generation to another.

"The smiling man" could be whoever/whatever HABIT possesses at that time.

One thing that worries me though: how come the HABIT that took the kids was indestructible... yet he seemingly has to change bodies?? Do they age, but not succumb to wounds? Confused

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Anonymousity wrote:
One thing that worries me though: how come the HABIT that took the kids was indestructible... yet he seemingly has to change bodies?? Do they age, but not succumb to wounds? Confused


I haven't seen anything indicating he has to change bodies. If he's wearing people like clothes, he might just want to change outfits every now and then.

Also, have we seen anything indicating that the inHABITed heal from their wounds? We see they don't die, but they could be basically reanimated corpses who don't mend. A host with big gaping holes in his neck isn't going to allow HABIT to blend in with society when needed, so he'd need to jump into a fresh pair of jeans. So to speak.

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True - then again, Evan WAS called HABIT. So this would mean that HABIT could switch only in a number of bodies - those he gave life to himself.

One thing I find odd with Evan is that HABIT seems to pop into him randomly, like at the ending of the last video. We know he can seemingly effortlessly cross huge amounts of spaces and time (logic fleeing to every which way), like some sort of demon, but only capable of inhabiting those he created...

Can we try to round up all the facts we know about HABIT and Slenderman??

Like, we know that Steph did NOT see HABIT, or seemingly does not know of him - so could she even BE inHABITed, as all the others seemed to be aware of it? We assume Slenderman took Jessa - but why? Just for snackz? lulz?

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Or, for you Stephen King fans, HABIT could work like the entity Tak does in the Desperation/The Regulators mini-verse. Tak is a body hopping entity who, once having taken possession of a body, is able to use it beyond its natural abilities... for a short time. The body rapidly decays soon after, forcing a swtich.

Honestly, I don't think we should consider the inHABITing that physical or that easily specified. I think it's more a mental thing, which is why I find this sudden switch to HABIT as a phsyical force in these back stories so odd. Till now he's been a voice with an internet connection and little else. Maybe a split personality in Evan once or twice. Suddenly, HABIT's getting physical.

Anyone else, I'd say it was just the authors running out of ideas of how to make their villain scary. The old Eli Roth method: throw blood on the audience till they mistake disgust with fear. But with EMH I don't buy that. It's got to be a bit deeper.


Edit about Jessa: Is taking Jessa the only "evil" thing Slendy's done in the series? If it is (I can't remember all the scenes with the tallman at the moment) I find that very significant because it does throw a wrench in the whole "Slendy is good" idea, but it also leaves one to ask "Why?" Why only Jessa, why only that one time, and why show her off only that one moment later on? To what end? If he's evil, why stop there? If he's good, why do that? If he's chaotic, why be so lazy after that one incident?

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I don't buy this "Slendy is good" thing at all.
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qaqa wrote:
I don't buy this "Slendy is good" thing at all.


Really it's hard to place Slendy on ANY morality scale. I know all the trope addicts like to say "He's blue and orange! He's blue and orange!" but he's not even that. He doesn't DO anything. He's there. It'd be like me asking "What's the morality of a person who reads a Superman comic and, every once in a while, when they go to turn the page, it tears a little?"

Sure, he propels the story along and if he wasn't here most of us wouldn't be (he at least attracted our attention long enough for us to care about the rest of the story) but he has no motive, no goal, and if you list the things he's done, you'll have like a dozen occurences of "stands" and one of "was not hurt by bat or car: need bigger car."

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He killed the priest.

And he makes "the pain" go away.

That Jessa bit still throws me off too... I still... am not sure if we might not see her again in some way or another...

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He does enough.

He killed the priest because he doesn't share. He made the pain go away to keep the guy enslaved. And he took Jessa, and she's not living it up in the land of milk and honey. Among countless other things we could mention.
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He made the pain go away to keep the guy enslaved. And he took Jessa, and she's not living it up in the land of milk and honey.




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Eh, in all honesty all the EMH villains except the Rake take the Monte Cristo approach to villainy: manipulate one or two events and then just wait for their victims to fall apart. That's why EMH is worth all our time: it's actually protagonist driven, not antagonist. Even if by "driven" we mean "stumble around over each other like they lost access to GameFAQS." XD

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"Gonna get my emergency machete."

THIS IS GOOD CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE, HOLLYWOOD!! Rock On

Back OT: I think Slenderman is not as much villainous as he is... mystical. He seems to be less malicious than HABIT though. By that, I mean "He's eating his Jessa-steak, while HABIT is re-choreographing the silly dance with his half eaten steaks."

The thing I didn't figure out yet is: Why the Rake!

You see: it's OK to have HABIT inHABIT Evan, due to the HABIT-connection from the MT4. So, say, Slendy does show up because he's close to where HABIT is hitting, getting the kids either to safe them or... to eat them, whatever. But why the Rake? Does he show up because of the gore, eating whatever is left? And what drives HABIT? The fun in chaos a la Joker? Does he consume pain and anxiety, like a demon?

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I don't have any really good ideas (read epileptic trees) about the rake, and this may have already come up, but I do think he/it is targeting Alex more than the rest of the crew. Which is interesting, because Alex is also the least connected to the Fairmount shenanigans- remind me, Alex doesn't come up in any of the Corenthal stuff, right? Which would further support HABIT, the rake, and Slenderman as separate but coexisting entities.

Something that's always struck me (and I'm sure I brought this up before) is that I think one of the earlier Corenthal letters made some reference to each of the children having their own monsters or something, and how Linnie's seems more feral than the others (which would make sense given the Linnie/Rake connection).

As for Slenderman's morality, I've always seen him as an Eldritch horror, so assigning him a morality is kind of trite. That being said, I would by no means call Slenderman "good."

Anyway, long rambly post is long and rambly.

Also I tried to find angora chat the other day on mibbit and couldn't, has anything changed recently or did I just forget the chats official name?

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