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[LOCKED] [TRAILHEAD?] 8-3-11
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grim015
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Idoits.
Idoits.

Alright. I've been following this thread since day one. She is in no way associated to "Hitler Youth" If you go onto the form spring they clearly state "SHE IS AMERICAN" Why would an American 8 year old girl be part of the Hitler Youth?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:15 pm
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Arion
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Re: Idoits.
Idoits.

grim015 wrote:
Alright. I've been following this thread since day one. She is in no way associated to "Hitler Youth" If you go onto the form spring they clearly state "SHE IS AMERICAN" Why would an American 8 year old girl be part of the Hitler Youth?

"[...] both imply that she was in fact German / Romanian and only got her American citizenship later. They just say "She's American". [...]"

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=870173#870173

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:21 pm
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Bright Disaster
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I found something, idk if anyone else has seen this or not..

If the pictures don't load, there seem to be messages underneath the pictures in blue lettering. Idk if that's pertinent, but I noticed it...XD

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:45 pm
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Just_trying
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Hi guys. I just want to let you know that I asked these questions a few days ago and still no answer. Maybe ther is nothing, but just to inform you.
You said that she went by Belle when younger, is her name Isabella?
Was Belle involved in any kind of accident or event of major importance?
The girl in the picture is one girl or two?
Are your numbers something else than identifications?
Thanks for reading and good luck.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:08 pm
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barb
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i read all of the formspring questions last night... all four hundred and something of them. ug. anyway, what i noted was that he/she said they can't reveal until 8-3-11, AND that it has to be then as there will never be another chance (cant remember the exact wording) - at first i thought something like maybe a statue of limitations or something, but then that would mean they could "reveal" whatever from that date forward, not ONLY on that date. they make it sound like that date is a once in a lifetime opportunity for them to do whatever it is they are going to do (or say, or whatever) - but i also noted they said they don't use a roman calendar. so are we sure that the date is August 3, 2011? (i have read so much now i cant remember if they ever spelled the date out or ONLY used 8-3-11). and WHY dots and not dashes on the date? does anyone here know morse code - is there any way that 8𠖥1 translates into morese? (excuse my ignorance, i am not very knowlegable about morse, so... you know, jus throwing ideas out there.. because i DO know that in morse, dots and dashes make all the difference int he world) and again, scuzd me if this has already been covered... it IS so much reading...

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Venomiss
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Re: wait, what?

momentsbeforethewind wrote:
Venomiss wrote:
I found a symbol used over and over in the source code of almost every page about this 8-3-11 business 禁 I googled this and that lead me to this page http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/software-engineering-and-development/cryptography/01120100015si/solving-the-enigma-history-of-cryptanalytic-bombe/7.


hi! your remarks definitely caught my eye. i just spent an hour reading about enigma and sue eskey, which was a great mini-education. so thanks for the lead! Smile

but i'm curious about a couple of things you wrote. first, where are you seeing this symbol in the source code? i looked but didn't see it (admittedly, i had to look using a hack on my ipad since i'm on the road, so maybe i didn't see everything?). if you could provide a page where that symbol appears, it would be much appreciated.

second, i read eskey's remarks a little differently from how you did--i don't think she was saying that enigma itself was easy to break, but that she guessed easily that the wiring project she was working on was related to the alphabet, because it involved 26 wires. but realizing that you're working on something related to the alphabet is a lot easier than actually breaking the enigma code, which required the mental efforts of no less a person than turing himself. and from the article i read, eskey was in the smithsonian when she discovered a picture of herself in an exhibit on enigma and code-breaking--but the exhibit wasn't about her, it just had a picture in which she appeared.

third, what was the 'what's in the box' link? i missed that but it sounds cool Smile


Sorry, wasn't implying that the exhibit was about her. :/ I posted at 3am; that in combination with all the things I had been reading...yeah... And yes, she was saying that it was easy to tell what the wiring was all about not breaking the enigma or code and such. Once again, it was late and I had about 7 hours of info rattling around in the ol' noggin'.

Anyhoo, I asked 175,000 on formspring if there was any connection to what they were doing and with Eskey and the OP-20-G, no response yet. I did find the conet project also had a page on formspring and they seemed to be answering questions related to 8-3-11, but when I asked if there was a connection between them, 8-3-11 and OP-20-G, the response was No.

As to finding the source code, it is on almost every page connected to 8-3-11. I use Firefox, go to a page and select view page source. You could try going to 8-3-11.info/brutalityunec.mp3. A lot of the code looks like a mixture of cuneiform and runes, amongst other more common source codes. Interestingly enough I went to the conet project website and was reading some of the comments posted there and I will no longer be listening to the messages from the numbers station. Some people were saying that they started having strange headaches and weird symptoms from listening too much. One of the guys said something about the tones triggering different parts of the brain or something(?). I don't have time right now to go back and look through the comments, but you can find them on the conet project website.

What's in the box can be found at http://whatsinthebox.nl/

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:32 pm
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Venomiss
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maybe the error is mine?

18001 wrote:
Venomiss wrote:
"... So, from the gps coords on the picture that was posted a few pages back (volley.png) it leads to the US Navy Communications Annex Bldg 4...


Sorry but I'm not sure how you got that location

Photoshop gives the GPS as 40 48.92N 75 44W
Safari web browser gives the GPS as
Latitude = 40.81533; LatitudeRef = N;
Longitude = 75.73333; LongitudeRef = W;

When I Google map either of those coordinate pairs I get the location

Blakeslee Boulevard Drive East, Lehighton, Pennsylvania, United States

Which seems to be at the base of a large strip-mall sign in PA

If the Naval Annex you're referring to is located at
701 South Courthouse Road, Arlington, VA 22204-2198
then according to
http://www.gps-data-team.info

The GPS for the Annex is

38.8677664 N; -77.0810476

Have I made an error?


I had 40.48'56.20N 75.43'58.99W I remember seeing a Navy Annex Bldg at/close to these coordinates. Also, Volley pic and Penn are related (Penn=Pennsylvania?) It was also mentioned in an article I read about Cryptology and such. US Navy Encryption Machine was located in PA in 1943 (not sure on exact year). I "assumed" these were connected. Maybe I misread coords?! Ugh! I don't know, at this point I have read and searched through so much my brain hurts! Sorry if the error is on my part. Thank you for bringing it to my attention though. I will have to go back to do some more searching now... Just when I had planned to give up this crazy quest. Maybe I should just get an umbrella and wait it out. Confused

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:47 pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_day

check out the "calculations" section in this article. do you think this could be some kind of calculation like the JDN calculations listed on the above wiki page? longshot, but... at this point who knows, right?

this particular answer keeps jumping out to me, and does anyone know what the question came from, do we know the questioner? http://www.formspring.me/8X3X11/q/213448642571312783

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:53 pm
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also couldnt an umbrella be symbolic for "shower"... such as the Perseid Meteor Shower that should begin right around 3-3-11?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:56 pm
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Guest
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i mean 8-3-11. sorry typo.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:02 pm
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Venomiss
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Re: wait, what?

18001 wrote:
momentsbeforethewind wrote:
Venomiss wrote:
I found a symbol used over and over in the source code of almost every page about this 8-3-11 business 禁 I googled this and that lead me to this page http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/software-engineering-and-development/cryptography/01120100015si/solving-the-enigma-history-of-cryptanalytic-bombe/7.


but i'm curious about a couple of things you wrote. first, where are you seeing this symbol in the source code? ...


I'm curious also. Can you post a sample of the html containing of this character and/or describe exactly where it can be found?


A sample from helpher file:
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(Had to break the strings so your page wouldn't get all wonky-but in essence they are just one long string)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:03 pm
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Venomiss
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Re: Also
8X3X11

momentsbeforethewind wrote:
Spirit_Tracker9 wrote:
Also, if 8X3X11= is also a mathematical equation then it's 264. . . . If this isn't a mathematical thing let me know.


i don't know either, of course, but i think it has to be a math thing. in formspring they've been adamant about using the raised dots instead of slashes in the date, and the formspring url is 8X3X11.

but i dunno what the significance of 264 can be. or maybe the number 24, 33, and/or 88 are important somehow? but that also feels like a stretch.


Heh, I know that 88 is a significant number to certain people... 8 is the eighth letter of the alphabet, H. 88=HH or 'Heil Hitler'

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Venomiss
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Umbrella

I have to get "unglued" for a while. I will have to check out the 56 floors thing after my mind has had time to rest.

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doyasmellwhatisteppedin
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8/3/11=

8/3/11= .24242424242424242424242424242424
Reverse 42424242424242424242424242424242
Googled= http://www.answertolifetheuniverseandeverything.com/ Very Happy

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I am I
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"Who ever castes the first stone gets the ball rolling."

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