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AfterHours
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DonMonte wrote:
AfterHours wrote:
DonMonte wrote:
AfterHours wrote:
...not even mentioning the fact it was a Slendertrance.

Probably because there's not conclusive evidence that it was. There is evidence... but there's also evidence against it.
AfterHours wrote:
ToTheArk has insisted that even Jay was untrustworthy at times, and has never been too fond of Alex at all IIRC.

You say that like it's definitive that TTA was talking about Jay at the time... but it isn't. It's certainly possible, but again, it's also possible that he wasn't.

Basically, your argument could be either right or wrong, based largely on whether or not your evidence is right or wrong.


If you could find evidence against it being a Slendertrance, I'd be happy to see it.


The same evidence that supports a Slendertrance, walking toward the Operator in Entry #43 and telling Jess not to worry about Amy (essentially), could also be evidence of Alex tenaciously wanting to confront the Operator alone.

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Also, he has called Jay out on at least one occasion ("tell us. you have been keeping secrets. smile for the camera"). The next entry was him confessing that he had been keeping his own logs.


Wasn't that next entry the one in which Masky shows up on cam? We hadn't heard a whole lot from Tim... so any secrets Tim had could have been said secrets. He also got up close to the camera... I wouldn't be surprised if he was smiling under that mask.

All I'm saying is that you're claiming things as fact, when they're just strongly suggested.


The other part of it being a Slendertrance is that he sees the Operator, starts coughing/whatnot, then gets up and groggily walks over to him. While it could be argued that he was just weak from the coughing/whatever other influences the Operator put him under, why wouldn't he try any other time? The Operator was in his house in 44, why not try then? Or even in 27, when he's with his girlfriend? Surely he could've told her to "leave without him" while he faced the Operator alone.

Now, as for the entry where Masky shows up on camera. This argument is very valid, however, Tim obviously has access to the TTA account (as evidenced by the video of Jay coughing in the house where he later met Masky, and the videos he appears in). The way I see it, the "tell us" video came after Masky had infiltrated Jay's house, and had gotten close to the camera to indicate "I know you have these logs" (you don't just stare at a specific spot for that long without reason). And since he watches the MH channel, he would direct that at him. You could argue that someone else posted that video (if TTa actually is comprised of many people), but I think at this point the story hadn't really been thought all the way through yet, so doing something like that wouldn't exactly make sense.

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Mr. Fischer wrote:
Why can't most of you process the thought of this being a new hooded character. I honestly DO NOT UNDERSTAND. We have been hinted blatantly that there are multiple TTA/Masked Characters. You're all saying it doesn't make sense to bring in a new character, when it does! You need to look past the if's and but's. You need to see the big picture! Obviously they were going to eventually bring in another character. Why not now? It's never to soon. Why on Earth would Hoody change his appearance, it makes no sense. We know that the MH crew establishes these mysterious masked characters through their RECOGNIZABLE MASKS (Timasky). The mask in this entry was clearly I mean CLEARLY different from the masked figure in #41 (Hoody). Night vision my ass! Masky would have been color distorted as well. Get it through your heads! We've been introduced to a new masked character. I stand STRONG on my statements.

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I couldn't agree more with you, its just that right now its like the "Was it Slendy or TTA outside of the car in Entry 39?", people will argue for day on the topic, pulling the facts strait out of there ass because F waiting for the answer and having a little friendly speculation about what is going to happen next during the mean time, its all about the bragging rights of being right, or not having to admit you were wrong, even though most make it worse on themselves by badgering everyone with a different opinion then them over and over (no matter if they turn out to be right or wrong).

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DonMonte
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Zebez wrote:
AfterHours wrote:
Also, he has called Jay out on at least one occasion ("tell us. you have been keeping secrets. smile for the camera"). The next entry was him confessing that he had been keeping his own logs.


Wasn't that next entry the one in which Masky shows up on cam? We hadn't heard a whole lot from Tim... so any secrets Tim had could have been said secrets. He also got up close to the camera... I wouldn't be surprised if he was smiling under that mask.

All I'm saying is that you're claiming things as fact, when they're just strongly suggested.


It seems simpler to say that Jay was the one keeping secrets, as he tells the audience that he had been filming himself right after this response. (I just watched it today, as I got the DVD) Occam yes?

Also many ideas are derived from leaps in thought, based on previous evidence. Strongly suggested is the best we have to go on.

By all means, I agree. I'm just saying it's important not to claim that anything in this series is definitive. Mostly, what irked me to begin with was the use of the phrase, "the fact that."

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 		A few thoughts:

1. Yes, the mask is not he same one as in entry 41.
2. Considering the only noticeable differences between 41 masked guy and this masked guy are the colors of the masks, I think we can all definitely say that we CAN't BE SURE that the two are either the same or different, and anyone freaking out about it is acting like a douche. You know who I'm talking about.
3.How many of you were actually here during entry 33? Do you remember all of the arguing about teleportation? 'Cause I sure do. I rememberall of the debating and yelling and name calling, but then this post came along.
Playmer wrote:
I am not done with the teleportation, I have gone through every entry and taken screenshots and labeled them, to prove unequivocally that it went down somehow.

If you look at everything, including my explanations, and still don't believe me, tell me why so I can find a better way of explaining it, I've spent 2 hours on this. I've watched the videos, I've frame by framed every single one in Quicktime. It happened, denying it is foolish, and calling anything that I've or anyone else has done to prove it "zoom and enhance" is just rude. No one has zoomed or "enhanced" anything, in fact I think the previous proof was done at slightly lower resolutions than mine. The pictures are untouched besides labeling.

Entry 27: http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8241/entry27analysation.png

Entry 28:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2955/entry28analysation.png

Entry 30: http://img816.imageshack.us/i/entry30analysation.png/

Entry 31: http://img23.imageshack.us/i/entry31analysation.png/

Entry 33: http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4906/entry33analysation.png

Look at that post. All of the PROOF that teleportation had occurred. And there was no meta gaming! So, until someone presents this much data, we must agree that blaksy may or may not be the new masked character.

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DonMonte wrote:
Mostly, what irked me to begin with was the use of the phrase, "the fact that."


Fact is a really over used word here, especially on TTA videos.

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 		Does anyone know any good evidence for if there are 3 or 4 members of TTA? I haven't watched all the reply videos enough to tell real differences.

Also, can anyone put on Night mode on a decent camera and just check how different colored cloth-fabric things look? If we can confirm that all cloth, regardless of color, looks basically the same, then I say we allow it to be Blasky meaning we have seen 3 TTA members and if they look different it is Woodsy, and we move on.

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 		I can't be the only one who sees this:



And is reminded of this:



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DonMonte wrote:
fredsolo wrote:

Not concrete enough. I'm for once very skeptical of whether that's even a different mask since it's night vision and all but let's just say for argument's sake say it is. Maybe Troy and Joseph weren't satisfied with Hoody's look from 41, maybe they even shot this entry with Hoody's original mask and decided it looked like crap and re-shot it with a new mask(According to Troy's twitter they had to re-shoot this entry) and decided it wasn't a big deal since we only saw Hoody for a couple seconds in Entry 41 and this entry was shot on night vision and all.

You want your "antagonists" to have clear and memorable introductions like Masky and Hoody did. You want the audience to clearly know this is a new character they haven't seen before. You don't want them to go, "umm I think this is the same guy from that one time" because then you obviously didn't introduce the character the right way.


So... you want the audience to easily identify who the characters are... but Troseph decided to change one of those character's outfits? I see a contradiction there.


They might have decided to tweak his appearance a little bit, sort of how Masky was wearing a different outfit in his first appearance than the one he wears in all of his subsequent appearances, but they left his most distinctive detail intact(that being the fact that he wears a hood and a pretty simple mask) I mean to figure out that the coloring on the mask was different than it was on 41 you would probably have to come to this forum something that (contrary to popular belief) most people who watch Marble Hornets don't really do. Those people would go on and assume this is the same character from 41 because he is wearing a hood and a mask with eyeholes. If this was a new character then his introduction was very poorly done and it's not on par with the introductions of Masky, Hoody, or even Skully.

My point is if this was a different new character they would've given him a unique look something that they didn't do.

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
I can't be the only one who sees this:



And is reminded of this:



I really only see it in the eyes. The masked face doesn't look as long, main reason I think this entrys is a Bandana (thats just my speculation)

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Mr_Magpie wrote:
I can't be the only one who sees this:



And is reminded of this:



Yes! I can totally see that.

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 		What I learned from this entry:

1. The Masked Bros. aren't working for The Operator.

2. Alex is getting very aggravated with these masked individuals, so much to the point that he says he will kill them next time he sees them.

..

I think that Alex is dead.

I think that The Ark is in that forrest.

I also sort of think that the masked fellows are part of some sort of underground resistance group to stop... something.. From happening?

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 		What evidence is there that Alex is dead? I mean, I know we are sometime in the past. But a dead Alex is bad story-telling from what I think we know. An enslaved Alex makes more sense.

Again, does anyone know how many stylistically different TTA videos there are? I think it is 3 or 4 but I would rather ask a more experienced MH'er for confirmation. I think that would solve our Blasky vs Woodsy debate.

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Sleight wrote:
What evidence is there that Alex is dead? I mean, I know we are sometime in the past. But a dead Alex is bad story-telling from what I think we know. An enslaved Alex makes more sense.

Again, does anyone know how many stylistically different TTA videos there are? I think it is 3 or 4 but I would rather ask a more experienced MH'er for confirmation. I think that would solve our Blasky vs Woodsy debate.


Where's your proof on Alex-is-enslaved?
They both have proof for and against them. Or proof that could be made up. Or facts to be twisted. Or ideas to be sprouted.

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Sleight wrote:
What evidence is there that Alex is dead? I mean, I know we are sometime in the past. But a dead Alex is bad story-telling from what I think we know. An enslaved Alex makes more sense.

Again, does anyone know how many stylistically different TTA videos there are? I think it is 3 or 4 but I would rather ask a more experienced MH'er for confirmation. I think that would solve our Blasky vs Woodsy debate.


Alex is a gung-ho, take-no-shit adventurer type, which is a nice way of saying 'kind of an asshole'.

He must be dead.

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Sleight wrote:
What evidence is there that Alex is dead? I mean, I know we are sometime in the past. But a dead Alex is bad story-telling from what I think we know. An enslaved Alex makes more sense.

Again, does anyone know how many stylistically different TTA videos there are? I think it is 3 or 4 but I would rather ask a more experienced MH'er for confirmation. I think that would solve our Blasky vs Woodsy debate.


The whole Alex is dead thing was caused by Entry 29, since Alex was missing at the time (and in the present too) and all the blood, people just assumed it would be revealed as Alex over the 7 months, but now its very up in the air who the blood belongs to (and if the person is dead or not)

And TheSnack made a Topic on the possibility of 4 members, due to differences in the videos, check it out, you might like it, very in depth.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32795

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