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Geneaux486
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 		Always thought totheark was working for the Operator, but now we see its members trying to kill Alex, who's been claimed by the thing. Can't even begin to guess what's motivating them, especially Tim, at this point.

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 		...How do we know that the masked people are "ToTheArk"?

When has this ever been proven?

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SpareKeys wrote:
Nickjackal wrote:
After reading through all of the theories, reading about how people believe it was The Operator that helped Alex out, etc, I just have one question:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
DO I HELP OR DO I KILL?


Well, I just typed up something massive and then it disappeared. Sad day. But, as someone said earlier, I think the Mask Crew are out to end TO, without without certain players alive.

Extra crazy speculation ahoy, me hearties. Feel free to pass by it.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This is one of those theories that develop in my mind half without any real backing other than a few key plot points, so feel free to view it as such. I do honestly hope the plot ends up being more contrived than this, because this idea is, in my mind, sort of weak. That said...

I'm not beyond considering that TO lives as a sort of "imaginary friend gone real/wrong" with Boogeyman-like lifelines, contingent upon people's thoughts. Basically, if people forget him, he's gone. If they remember, he's there (supported by the reappearance to Alex at his home when the camera is found). The only thing that sprung this idea to me at first was the video of toddler Alex, and the passing thought of "Oh man, they were bros even then".

Then I began to notice how much "care" seems to be put in to Alex's interactions with Slendy. I can't get it out of my mind that, in one video, he simply WALKS RIGHT THE FUCK UP TO HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARK with no known repercussions (that I recall). Now? Walking up to him makes for a coughing fit and possible possession. I think the more people who know about him, the stronger he becomes in that respect, explaining TTA's aims: destroy those who believe in him. The hesitance of "help or kill" come mostly toward Jay, who is sort of unwittingly drawn into the situation. This also explains why they were so adamant about obtaining the hard drive (complete with password in hand).

Yes, Alex was potentially possessed by TO, but comes back seemingly unscarred and reportedly having seen his girlfriend. TO isn't antagonistic towards Alex in the classic way; he simply wants to dominate his life, and have messages of his life passed on, to ensure that he will proceed to exist. Irony being, of course, that it is in fact Jay who seems to be spreading his message most.


I like this, actually. The idea of Slendy/TO as a thoughtform really meshes with pretty much everything we've seen so far, and the entire Slender Man Mythos in general.

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Sleight wrote:
Yuki!

Please rewatch 42! He was Slendertranced earlier. That is the point! I made a big post 10 pages ago.

Watch all of 42. Note the motion of the camera and the sounds of him walking. It is SOOO smooth and natural until the jump. Then all of a sudden he is walking really heavy and it gets worse and worse!

Look at Alex enter the HOLE! Look at his arms hanging loosely by his sides! His knees barely bend. I promise it is hugely different from the start to finish of 42.

Did any of you think that perhaps the "Slendertrance" we all think Alex was in when he approached the operator is just him resisting to the operator's control? The Operator could have something along the lines of an aura, which could explain why Alex was walking the way that he did, he was pushing against it. The aura could also explain the video and audio distortions.
Remember, Slendy is a paranormal being, after all. It's not completely out of the question.

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SpareKeys wrote:
Nickjackal wrote:
After reading through all of the theories, reading about how people believe it was The Operator that helped Alex out, etc, I just have one question:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
DO I HELP OR DO I KILL?


Well, I just typed up something massive and then it disappeared. Sad day. But, as someone said earlier, I think the Mask Crew are out to end TO, without without certain players alive.

Extra crazy speculation ahoy, me hearties. Feel free to pass by it.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This is one of those theories that develop in my mind half without any real backing other than a few key plot points, so feel free to view it as such. I do honestly hope the plot ends up being more contrived than this, because this idea is, in my mind, sort of weak. That said...

I'm not beyond considering that TO lives as a sort of "imaginary friend gone real/wrong" with Boogeyman-like lifelines, contingent upon people's thoughts. Basically, if people forget him, he's gone. If they remember, he's there (supported by the reappearance to Alex at his home when the camera is found). The only thing that sprung this idea to me at first was the video of toddler Alex, and the passing thought of "Oh man, they were bros even then".

Then I began to notice how much "care" seems to be put in to Alex's interactions with Slendy. I can't get it out of my mind that, in one video, he simply WALKS RIGHT THE FUCK UP TO HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARK with no known repercussions (that I recall). Now? Walking up to him makes for a coughing fit and possible possession. I think the more people who know about him, the stronger he becomes in that respect, explaining TTA's aims: destroy those who believe in him. The hesitance of "help or kill" come mostly toward Jay, who is sort of unwittingly drawn into the situation. This also explains why they were so adamant about obtaining the hard drive (complete with password in hand).

Yes, Alex was potentially possessed by TO, but comes back seemingly unscarred and reportedly having seen his girlfriend. TO isn't antagonistic towards Alex in the classic way; he simply wants to dominate his life, and have messages of his life passed on, to ensure that he will proceed to exist. Irony being, of course, that it is in fact Jay who seems to be spreading his message most.


I like this theory. It seems to hold the most reason why TTA would be so against Alex.

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Geneaux486
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Teedub wrote:
...How do we know that the masked people are "ToTheArk"?

When has this ever been proven?


We saw one of them walk past J's car filming him, then posting said footage on the totheark channel. There's always the possibility they aren't the same, but given what we know it's the most likely scenario. I'm sure it's no coincidence that J tweeted that it seemed like there was more than one person submitting totheark videos just shortly before we see confirmation that there are multiple people wearing masks. Then there's the classic evidence, the "Come back. Find Me" followed by J going back to the house and finding Tim, the fact that Tim at least has featured in totheark videos being filmed by a stationary camera, etc. So yeah, we can safely assume the masked people are totheark for now.

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SpareKeys wrote:
Nickjackal wrote:
After reading through all of the theories, reading about how people believe it was The Operator that helped Alex out, etc, I just have one question:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
DO I HELP OR DO I KILL?


Well, I just typed up something massive and then it disappeared. Sad day. But, as someone said earlier, I think the Mask Crew are out to end TO, without without certain players alive.

Extra crazy speculation ahoy, me hearties. Feel free to pass by it.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This is one of those theories that develop in my mind half without any real backing other than a few key plot points, so feel free to view it as such. I do honestly hope the plot ends up being more contrived than this, because this idea is, in my mind, sort of weak. That said...

I'm not beyond considering that TO lives as a sort of "imaginary friend gone real/wrong" with Boogeyman-like lifelines, contingent upon people's thoughts. Basically, if people forget him, he's gone. If they remember, he's there (supported by the reappearance to Alex at his home when the camera is found). The only thing that sprung this idea to me at first was the video of toddler Alex, and the passing thought of "Oh man, they were bros even then".

Then I began to notice how much "care" seems to be put in to Alex's interactions with Slendy. I can't get it out of my mind that, in one video, he simply WALKS RIGHT THE FUCK UP TO HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARK with no known repercussions (that I recall). Now? Walking up to him makes for a coughing fit and possible possession. I think the more people who know about him, the stronger he becomes in that respect, explaining TTA's aims: destroy those who believe in him. The hesitance of "help or kill" come mostly toward Jay, who is sort of unwittingly drawn into the situation. This also explains why they were so adamant about obtaining the hard drive (complete with password in hand).

Yes, Alex was potentially possessed by TO, but comes back seemingly unscarred and reportedly having seen his girlfriend. TO isn't antagonistic towards Alex in the classic way; he simply wants to dominate his life, and have messages of his life passed on, to ensure that he will proceed to exist. Irony being, of course, that it is in fact Jay who seems to be spreading his message most.


If that's the masks' goal, why don't they just permanently hack Jay's accounts and prevent him from uploading new videos, or tweets? And if he won't stop, find him (as they do rather frequently) and incapacitate him (not necessarily kill)?

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Geneaux486 wrote:
Teedub wrote:
...How do we know that the masked people are "ToTheArk"?

When has this ever been proven?


We saw one of them walk past J's car filming him, then posting said footage on the totheark channel. There's always the possibility they aren't the same, but given what we know it's the most likely scenario. I'm sure it's no coincidence that J tweeted that it seemed like there was more than one person submitting totheark videos just shortly before we see confirmation that there are multiple people wearing masks. Then there's the classic evidence, the "Come back. Find Me" followed by J going back to the house and finding Tim, the fact that Tim at least has featured in totheark videos being filmed by a stationary camera, etc. So yeah, we can safely assume the masked people are totheark for now.


Well, the person who walked passed J's car in Entry #39 was too concealed to be seen. It could have been one of them, but I don't think we can necessarily know for sure. On the subject of TiMasky being in some of the ToTheArk videos, that may very well be some evidence. However, I still believe that there might be something else going on... But honestly, this series has really confused me a lot. So, it's hard to tell...

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Teedub wrote:
Geneaux486 wrote:
Teedub wrote:
...How do we know that the masked people are "ToTheArk"?

When has this ever been proven?


We saw one of them walk past J's car filming him, then posting said footage on the totheark channel. There's always the possibility they aren't the same, but given what we know it's the most likely scenario. I'm sure it's no coincidence that J tweeted that it seemed like there was more than one person submitting totheark videos just shortly before we see confirmation that there are multiple people wearing masks. Then there's the classic evidence, the "Come back. Find Me" followed by J going back to the house and finding Tim, the fact that Tim at least has featured in totheark videos being filmed by a stationary camera, etc. So yeah, we can safely assume the masked people are totheark for now.


Well, the person who walked passed J's car in Entry #39 was too concealed to be seen. It could have been one of them, but I don't think we can necessarily know for sure. On the subject of TiMasky being in some of the ToTheArk videos, that may very well be some evidence. However, I still believe that there might be something else going on... But honestly, this series has really confused me a lot. So, it's hard to tell...


What makes you think something else is going on? Just a gut feeling or?

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 		So: Hoody and Masky are def. NOT working for the Operator (it appeared and they shat and ran) Hoody and masky are working together, implying one of two things:

There are more than one TTA's, Tim and Brian, perhaps. They are also these two masked figures.

Or: The two masked people are Jessica/Amy and Tim, TTA is a seperate entity (Brian perhaps)

I'm leaning for the second, because I'm loathe to think that someone like TTA who has his own channel and posts his own videos, would send Jay the physical tapes (much easier to just upload them)

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Teedub wrote:
...How do we know that the masked people are "ToTheArk"?

When has this ever been proven?


Not exactly proven, but we can be reasonably certain. "Addition", "Signal", "Messages", and "Warning" all strongly imply that Tim/Masky made them (compare Signal with Entry 19). "Forecast" and "Intermission" seem to be from Hoody ("Did you see me?"). Due to the stylistic changes in the videos it has been assumed that several people have access to the channel.

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Navigator wrote:
SpareKeys wrote:
Nickjackal wrote:
After reading through all of the theories, reading about how people believe it was The Operator that helped Alex out, etc, I just have one question:


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
DO I HELP OR DO I KILL?


Well, I just typed up something massive and then it disappeared. Sad day. But, as someone said earlier, I think the Mask Crew are out to end TO, without without certain players alive.

Extra crazy speculation ahoy, me hearties. Feel free to pass by it.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
This is one of those theories that develop in my mind half without any real backing other than a few key plot points, so feel free to view it as such. I do honestly hope the plot ends up being more contrived than this, because this idea is, in my mind, sort of weak. That said...

I'm not beyond considering that TO lives as a sort of "imaginary friend gone real/wrong" with Boogeyman-like lifelines, contingent upon people's thoughts. Basically, if people forget him, he's gone. If they remember, he's there (supported by the reappearance to Alex at his home when the camera is found). The only thing that sprung this idea to me at first was the video of toddler Alex, and the passing thought of "Oh man, they were bros even then".

Then I began to notice how much "care" seems to be put in to Alex's interactions with Slendy. I can't get it out of my mind that, in one video, he simply WALKS RIGHT THE FUCK UP TO HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARK with no known repercussions (that I recall). Now? Walking up to him makes for a coughing fit and possible possession. I think the more people who know about him, the stronger he becomes in that respect, explaining TTA's aims: destroy those who believe in him. The hesitance of "help or kill" come mostly toward Jay, who is sort of unwittingly drawn into the situation. This also explains why they were so adamant about obtaining the hard drive (complete with password in hand).

Yes, Alex was potentially possessed by TO, but comes back seemingly unscarred and reportedly having seen his girlfriend. TO isn't antagonistic towards Alex in the classic way; he simply wants to dominate his life, and have messages of his life passed on, to ensure that he will proceed to exist. Irony being, of course, that it is in fact Jay who seems to be spreading his message most.


If that's the masks' goal, why don't they just permanently hack Jay's accounts and prevent him from uploading new videos, or tweets? And if he won't stop, find him (as they do rather frequently) and incapacitate him (not necessarily kill)?


Simple: J is going to lead them to the Ark. J is useful because he is not a mask. He can do things that the TTA gang can't [such as walk openly in public]. If they stop J, then they will not be able to find the Ark, and El Hombre Alto will be able to unleash his dark designs on all of mankind.

Also, for whoever proved that material plays a role in washout, thank you... FOR SCIENCE!
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Capercorn wrote:
Navigator wrote:

If that's the masks' goal, why don't they just permanently hack Jay's accounts and prevent him from uploading new videos, or tweets? And if he won't stop, find him (as they do rather frequently) and incapacitate him (not necessarily kill)?


Simple: J is going to lead them to the Ark. J is useful because he is not a mask. He can do things that the TTA gang can't [such as walk openly in public]. If they stop J, then they will not be able to find the Ark, and El Hombre Alto will be able to unleash his dark designs on all of mankind.

Also, for whoever proved that material plays a role in washout, thank you... FOR SCIENCE!


Seems a little counterproductive to allow Jay to increase The Operator's power (if I understand your theory correctly, Sparekeys) in the hopes he'll lead them to...something. At least convince him to stop posting videos containing the Operator himself.

Unless they're hoping toglean a weakness from Jay's videos? But that doesn't seem to jibe with Tim's attack on Jay in the hotel.

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 		Attempted to do a clean-up of the debatable part of the video:



YouTube: Link

The colours are pretty much impossible to restore accurately without Troy's help, but maybe some people will find this a bit clearer.

EDIT:

I also slowed down the fast parts:



YouTube: Link

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Navigator wrote:
Capercorn wrote:
Navigator wrote:

If that's the masks' goal, why don't they just permanently hack Jay's accounts and prevent him from uploading new videos, or tweets? And if he won't stop, find him (as they do rather frequently) and incapacitate him (not necessarily kill)?


Simple: J is going to lead them to the Ark. J is useful because he is not a mask. He can do things that the TTA gang can't [such as walk openly in public]. If they stop J, then they will not be able to find the Ark, and El Hombre Alto will be able to unleash his dark designs on all of mankind.

Also, for whoever proved that material plays a role in washout, thank you... FOR SCIENCE!


Seems a little counterproductive to allow Jay to increase The Operator's power (if I understand your theory correctly, Sparekeys) in the hopes he'll lead them to...something. At least convince him to stop posting videos containing the Operator himself.

Unless they're hoping toglean a weakness from Jay's videos? But that doesn't seem to jibe with Tim's attack on Jay in the hotel.


Depends on how useful the Ark is. Everything you do, whether you realize it or not, has a risk/benefit aspect to it. The bigger the payoff and the urgency of the situation can all effect the risks you're willing to take. Allowing J to post the entries may be necessary to find the Ark. And if the Ark is powerful enough to stop the Operator, it would be well worth it.

EDIT: As to why Tim attacked J in the hotel; TTA believes that the clues they need are on the tapes. If they take the tapes from J, TTA gets the info they want, and J can't post the tapes on the internet. Win win for TTA.
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