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MistrPibb wrote:
StarlitVixen wrote:

I'm liking all the different theories about why they lead Alex to the woods. I'm especially favoring the "sacrificing Alex" ones (like I mentioned before).


Why would the Operator be creepin' in Alex's home, but when Alex goes to the woods, he attacks him?

The way The Operator's relation to Alex reminds me of the Big Daddy and Little Sister in Bioshock, especially when Alex's voice sounds demonic and twisted at the end.


"Angels don't wake for slowpokes, Mr. Slendy."

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MistrPibb wrote:
StarlitVixen wrote:

I'm liking all the different theories about why they lead Alex to the woods. I'm especially favoring the "sacrificing Alex" ones (like I mentioned before).


Why would the Operator be creepin' in Alex's home, but when Alex goes to the woods, he attacks him?

The way The Operator's relation to Alex reminds me of the Big Daddy and Little Sister in Bioshock, especially when Alex's voice sounds demonic and twisted at the end.


I would say he can only harm him in the forest, but the most evidence of harm has been seen in households, not the forest. I can't find any good ideas that have supporting "facts" to explain the Maskies motives or the Operator's own motives.

You know, now that I think about it... we don't necessarily know the Operator harmed Alex in... Entry #14? The Operator entered and Alex woke up with blood on his face, not coughed up...

Maybe the Operator was chasing away a Masky, who harmed Alex?

Eh I don't know... I'm not even believing this...

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The evidence of Alex's black shirt appearing to be the same color as the mask of the hooded individual in this entry should kill any discussion that this is not Hoody.

It's possible that there is more than 2 members of TTA but this video doesn't offer anything that proves of that. We see Hoody and Masky. Since we know Hoody has definitely made TTA videos, and it's been hinted that there is more than one person making those videos, we can assume the other person making TTA videos is TiMasky. For those of you counting that's two confirmed TTA members we know of so far.

I actually don't see why we should assume there is more than 2 TTAs, we know there are multiple TTA members but again 2 people=multiple people.
Maybe there is more members but we have no reason to assume that.

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I'm pretty sure the damned point of the masks were to create characters that were identified by the masks, not by the clothing and build. I've created short films before and trying to the get the same actor is nearly impossible, so you improvise and get someone to do it that's approximately right.

We see Masky and Hoody. Masky is Tim, we know that for a fact. We don't know who Hoody is, and since anything apart from the 'Mask' is irrelevant to the identification of these people we don't know anything more.

I think you guys are trying to see more into this than there actually is. Yes, the MH crew are smart and thoughtful guys, but they are still amateurs.

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I think everyone's gotten a little excitable. All I was really looking for is someone to say that this image:



Was taken when the camera was in some sort of 'half night vision' setting where the colours of fabrics would not be effected, so the black mask we see would still obviously appear black, while this image:



Was taken in some sort of 'low lighting high intensity night vision', where the fabric would be effected so as to show black as a much lighter colour.

Hoody is obviously involved here. I was only asking for a little clarification between what appear to discrepancies between these two figures, because I cannot video camera. Rolling Eyes

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Wow, I get back from vacation and there's already 43 pages. Sorry, I'm not reading 43 pages, so here are my impressions:

This is definitely Hoody. As has been gone over since the beginning, the writers do EVERYTHING for a reason... why would they have someone wearing a hood with something over their face that isn't Hoody?

I'm pretty sure the end can be seen as evidence of Slendy causing rage or altering people's mindsets; Alex tends to be pretty mild to be spouting death threats.

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ok, now, im not sure about the first person, if there is just 2 or 3 people, but i do know this.

look at the entry, there is a bit when, both maky and the other guy (who i think is skully so from now on i will call him skully) look to the right, apparently because TO is there, now, pay attention, if you look closely you can see something important THE END OF HIS MASK AND THE NECK, now take another look at hoodie, his mask makes it impossible to see his neck, its a bag, this one looks a lot like another masky kinda mask.

Also look at the mouth, sorry, you can say anything you want about the colors, but the mouth on hoody is simply not that big, this one looks like a large black line at the least, again, kinda like skully's. stop thinking about the colors, its night vision, you cant predict how it acts out, its just silly, it depends of many things, that we just dont understand.

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hyena7 wrote:
ok, now, im not sure about the first person, if there is just 2 or 3 people, but i do know this.

look at the entry, there is a bit when, both maky and the other guy (who i think is skully so from now on i will call him skully) look to the right, apparently because TO is there, now, pay attention, if you look closely you can see something important THE END OF HIS MASK AND THE NECK, now take another look at hoodie, his mask makes it impossible to see his neck, its a bag, this one looks a lot like another masky kinda mask.

Also look at the mouth, sorry, you can say anything you want about the colors, but the mouth on hoody is simply not that big, this one looks like a large black line at the least, again, kinda like skully's. stop thinking about the colors, its night vision, you cant predict how it acts out, its just silly, it depends of many things, that we just dont understand.



does anyone happen to have a screenshot anywhere that shows this moment hyena7 is describing? I can't get it to show up when I watch the video.

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I slit my wrists with Occam's Razor.

Sorry, just dizzied. Let's find something new in this entry to talk about.

Did Alex hear something at the beginning to make him look out the window? Can anyone turn it up extra loud and see if they hear it, too?

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lawlmarcus wrote:
Wow, I get back from vacation and there's already 43 pages. Sorry, I'm not reading 43 pages, so here are my impressions:

This is definitely Hoody. As has been gone over since the beginning, the writers do EVERYTHING for a reason... why would they have someone wearing a hood with something over their face that isn't Hoody?

I'm pretty sure the end can be seen as evidence of Slendy causing rage or altering people's mindsets; Alex tends to be pretty mild to be spouting death threats.

Sounds like someone's never encountered a red herring.

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WhyYouBawwing wrote:
Sounds like someone's never encountered a red herring.


Isn't that a sort of fish? I love fish. Cool

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Wait, I'm sorry. What was the red herring?

And to everyone saying, why would they lead someone to the woods? Isn't it obvious? What better place to hide a dead body than the woods?

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slendermen_unite wrote:
hyena7 wrote:
ok, now, im not sure about the first person, if there is just 2 or 3 people, but i do know this.

look at the entry, there is a bit when, both maky and the other guy (who i think is skully so from now on i will call him skully) look to the right, apparently because TO is there, now, pay attention, if you look closely you can see something important THE END OF HIS MASK AND THE NECK, now take another look at hoodie, his mask makes it impossible to see his neck, its a bag, this one looks a lot like another masky kinda mask.

Also look at the mouth, sorry, you can say anything you want about the colors, but the mouth on hoody is simply not that big, this one looks like a large black line at the least, again, kinda like skully's. stop thinking about the colors, its night vision, you cant predict how it acts out, its just silly, it depends of many things, that we just dont understand.



does anyone happen to have a screenshot anywhere that shows this moment hyena7 is describing? I can't get it to show up when I watch the video.




not the best quality, but bleh, you can see where the mask ends.

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Xicon wrote:
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Occam's razor is bandied about on these forums like it's the word of god.


This is true, and I definitely see how it can be frustrating, but I think that given a series like this, the creators are trying to keep it as simple as possible so that it can still be enjoyable for people who aren't - well, us. People who just subscribe to the channel and watch when it comes up, then move on.

With that in mind, I think that Occam's Razor applies in most situations, unless there is overwhelming factual evidence to suggest otherwise.


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Randoman96 wrote:
Xicon wrote:
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Occam's razor is bandied about on these forums like it's the word of god.


This is true, and I definitely see how it can be frustrating, but I think that given a series like this, the creators are trying to keep it as simple as possible so that it can still be enjoyable for people who aren't - well, us. People who just subscribe to the channel and watch when it comes up, then move on.

With that in mind, I think that Occam's Razor applies in most situations, unless there is overwhelming factual evidence to suggest otherwise.


This.


That's all well and good -- but unless you actually understand occam and his bloody razor, you're missing the point. Not to slide too far off topic, but most people think that shouting "Occam's Razor" means that people are overcomplicating things and should go for a more simple solution. That's not really what the razor stipulates. The razor merely wants you to take the hypothesis that makes the fewest new assumptions. But in order to do that you have to have two theories that are equal in all other respects. Sometimes the simple solution is the least accurate. When we're all vollying theories about, it's hard to establish what's equal enough to apply the razor -- who establishes what "proof" is valid enough for equal comparison?

All Occam's Razor is encouraging people to do is to tend toward a more simple solution if all things are equal or until we can better explain all of the given factors. What makes things equal is a murky subject and who establishes that is even murkier -- and since all we can do to be able to understand more and be able to explain better is to wait -- what else can you do?

Occam's Razor is not exactly a way to say, "your theory is overly complicated and I think you're wrong." You should just say that, and why you think so -- such as Daniel did (somewhat jokingly) in another thread: "It makes no sense to me that amateur film students would be able to afford and train a bird for a 5-second shot that has little to no bearing on the story at hand. I know what program they use to edit and I realize the skill and likely impossibility of being able to edit a bird in in post. Therefore, this insanity about a random circling bird is nonsense." (That's a vague paraphrase, but yanno. Go read it if you're so concerned. Very Happy)

Just saying, "I think you're wrong. Occam's razor!" isn't really good enough.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I also think that it's against the spirit of this place to just shut people down without a bit of explanation as to why you think they're being overly complicated. I also think that explaining to people why you think they're wrong can sometimes get them to look again at what they think versus what you think. Attempting to explain may cause them to change their minds -- and therefore slow the deluge of crazy crackpot theories.

Not to mention, wouldn't it suck if at some point one of those "crackpot" theories turns out to be the one that cracks the whole friggin' thing wide open? Then we'd all feel pretty stupid for not even entertaining the discussion.

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