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[SOLVESOLVESOLVE]Oct 8th PREPOSITION PUZZLE:usernameguy
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Elec
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SuperJerms wrote:
Ok, I'm reaching again, but here's a new thought.

Sounds Like...

Remeber two weeks ago, we had a puzzle that said "No, don't look IN the picture!" and we had to count the flowers on danadress? What if this is similar?

SOUNDS LIKE...maybe we should be listening to the hives mantra?


'K then, just for fun...SOUNDS LIKE is in the cutebee picture. To me anyway, a bee sounds like buzz.

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Centipede
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 		Maybe its a preposition or prepositional phrase that sounds like langshivel?

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KwayZeeyT
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 		langshivel isn't even a word. Most of the other pictures are called something that is a real word. Could this be our clue?

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Clarence_Worley
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guantes wrote:

Still after all the attempts with complex "sounds like" theories my first assumptions keep coming back to me.....

1) A lot of these words seem to be atonyms.... On/Off, Above/Below etc.
2) There are 41, a number which won't pair off exactly.

Sorry if this is trout but have we gone through to match up pairs of results? I tried it out but was pretty unsucessful.


I tried pairing off antonyms but ran into a few problems -- some have multiple antonyms or several related ones -- beneath, over, underneath, above, below -- which ones match with which? Also more than one seems to not have an opposite (including "opposite"), past, by, amid, onto. So I think that's a blind alley.

My latest thought has to do with the Charades angle. Because the list is only prepositions, and a large percentage of all the possible prepositions, I don't think the actual words themselves are the clues, but maybe the number of letters or the number of syllables, combined with the order of the words, holds the key.

I've already tried finding patterns with the number of letters (as musical notes), and tried to find something with the number of syllables (something used in Charades), but there doesn't seem to be enough granularity there.

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sapagoo
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KwayZeeyT wrote:
langshivel isn't even a word. Most of the other pictures are called something that is a real word. Could this be our clue?


on pages 40 & 41 of this thread, someone found out that it's short for Lang's Hive . Someone also mentioned that Lorenzo Lorraine Langstroth invented a special type of bee hive. don't know what the last L is for.

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 		Langstroth
sapagoo wrote:
KwayZeeyT wrote:
langshivel isn't even a word. Most of the other pictures are called something that is a real word. Could this be our clue?


on pages 40 & 41 of this thread, someone found out that it's short for Lang's Hive . Someone also mentioned that Lorenzo Lorraine Langstroth invented a special type of bee hive. don't know what the last L is for.


Langstroth published a book of axioms in 1853.

Quote:
There are a few first principles in bee-keeping which ought to be as familiar to the Apiarian as the letters of his alphabet :

1st. Bees gorged with honey never volunteer an attack.

2nd. Bees may always be made peaceable by inducing them to accept liquid sweets.

3rd. Bees, when frightened by smoke or by drumming on their hives, fill themselves with honey and lose all disposition to sting, unless they are hurt.

4th. Bees dislike any quick movements about their hives, especially any motion which jars their combs.

5th. Bees dislike the offensive odor of sweaty animals, and will not endure impure air from human lungs.

6th. The bee-keeper will ordinarily derive all his profits from stocks, strong and healthy, in early Spring.

7th. In districts where forage is abundant only for a short period, the largest yield of honey will be secured by a very moderate increase of stocks.

8th. A moderate increase of colonies in any one season, will, in the long run, prove to be the easiest, safest, and cheapest mode of managing bees.

9th. Queenless colonies, unless supplied with a queen, will inevitably dwindle away, or be destroyed by the bee-moth, or by robber-bees.

10th. The formation of new colonies should ordinarily be confined to the season when bees are accumulating honey ; and if this, or any other operation must be performed, when forage is scarce, the greatest precautions should be used to prevent robbing.

The essence of all profitable bee-keeping is contained in Oettl's Golden Rule : KEEP YOUR STOCKS STRONG. If you cannot succeed in doing this, the more money you invest in bees, the heavier your losses ; while, if your stocks are strong, you will show that you are a bee-master, as well as a bee-keeper, and may safely calculate on generous returns from your industrious subjects.

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KowZ
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 		Too all those who solved the other puzzles : Worshippy

Cutebees has ---------- Sounds Like ---------- (10 dashes)
Langshivel has the same number of dashes.
I believe that means 2 10 letter prepositions sound similar, but are often confused for each other (like affect and effect)

Anyone who wants to help me with this, please msn me
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Thanks - - KowZ

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jegger
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sapagoo wrote:
KwayZeeyT wrote:
langshivel isn't even a word. Most of the other pictures are called something that is a real word. Could this be our clue?


on pages 40 & 41 of this thread, someone found out that it's short for Lang's Hive . Someone also mentioned that Lorenzo Lorraine Langstroth invented a special type of bee hive. don't know what the last L is for.


I found the original location of the image file. Its original name was langshive1.jpg, hence the extra l (Dana must have changed it to something similar for some reason). Seeing as how she didn't even choose the name of the file, it would be really hard for the SP to work a puzzle around it, although not impossible, I suppose.

Here's the link to the original:

http://tinyurl.com/6deq7

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Lojack
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 		Grrrr!!!!!

I don't know why this puzzle bothers me so, but I spent an hour last night in a bookstore looking at puzzle books to see if I could find any similar sorts of word puzzles....

Feh! Rolling Eyes

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 		Well, I have a [Question/Spec]. What is going to happen tomorrow when we get the new set of puzzles if we don't have this solved? We are most likely going to need the langshivel picture for another clue for next weeks puzzles. Are we going to have to solve this puzzle before we can get the next one that uses this image, or will it automatically become unlocked and the puzzle will no longer be a puzzle? Anyone have any idea on what might happen? I'm hoping she will put another clue in somehow, but I don't know how she would do that, through another new image, or something else, I don't know. Whatever happens, we are almost at 50 pages of posts, and we need to get this puzzled solved ASAP!
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Kahnawake
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 		What if the number 41 isn't "Forty-one" but "four one" ie: "for one"?

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phieferboy
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 		Another idea to spark imagination (hopefully)
The stretching keeps getting thinner and thinner, but here's another far-out idea:

Maybe the solution is a preposition that sounds like the 41st of something... element (niobium), US president (George H. W. Bush), US State (Montana), US State Capitol (Helena is Montana's capitol), Land Before Time movie (there's been at least 200 of those, haven't there?), SOMETHING. I can't think of a preposition that sounds like any of those, but what else could there be the 41st of?

Just a wild pile of speculation....

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Tar Ecthelion
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skyhawk0000 wrote:
this puzzle is just Evil.. I keep thinking that it Has to be simpler then it seems.. but its Still just out of reach

So do I... this puzzle screams that we're missing some small but vital part. Like there was one more img with text we missed or something that is the Rosetta Stone of this goofy list of words or the part that 'sounds like' refers too. Something Vital.

Ok guess I'm done getting us nowhere,
-Tar
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Amanalphion
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 		I agree with some of you that we are probably thinking about this too hard. The puzzles aren't usually so enormously complicated that we'd have to break down the phenomes of each preposition or something. On the other hand, I think that just "sounds like [preposition]" is a little TOO simple. Maybe we need something in between...

Boy, I really hope we just get the .WAV file tommorrow... Sad

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SoSeoul
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 		Just wanted to say that I think this puzzle deserves a name of its own

Something like TMOAP (The Mother Of All Puzzles)

Ok, so that wasn't that original. But surely the massive thinktank that is Unfiction can think of a good proper noun for TMOAP.

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