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[VIDEO] Entry #46
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Dumbalias
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 		Well, since/if this happened during Jay's blackout, this is all getting pretty confusing. This entry doesn't really change my theory from Entry #45, except that Jay was stalking Alex during that blackout (if that's right.)

EDIT: It looks like the trust between Alex and Jay is disintegrating, it's only a matter of time before they both turn into maskies themselves. By that, I mean, slendersick people. My theory on them is that they started coughing from slenderman, like Alex did, started to draw Operator symbols, like Alex does commonly, and started to maybe even record themselves.

But then again, I'm getting confused about when this is happening? Before, or after Entry #43? Or, even Entry #44?

ALSO: Somebody on good ol' /x/ mentioned about how Slendy seems to be getting taller, and his arms seem to be more stretched, but, then again, he does appear just a bit different entry to entry, we just haven't seen him almost-human in a while.

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NewInTown2
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Jay said he found multiple tapes of him tailing Alex, is this the first one? Or the only one that had any significance?

If it is the first then this entry could well be the night after Entry 43. Maybe Jay kept on following Alex after Alex dropped him off at the hotel? Jay might even have been there (somewhere in the distance, eg at the parking) when Alex walked in Rosswood again to meet up with Slendy.

When Alex says to Jay: "I told you specifically not to follow me home!" it kind of sounds like they met up just before this Entry and had a little quarrel about Jay wanting to go with alex...
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Just like they did in Entry 43 Surprised


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 		If you rewatch 44 you will find that Alex is taping himself. Alex tapes himself in 45 even. But Alex is not taping himself in 46. That suggests, in and of itself, being later in the chronology. Why would he start and stop taping himself?

Makes more sense that a) Alex got full Slendytranced and b) Alex is now ignorant to TO's presence thus c) he is not aware TO had been in and out of his room on at least one other occasion.

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Silver seren
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Sleight wrote:
If you rewatch 44 you will find that Alex is taping himself. Alex tapes himself in 45 even. But Alex is not taping himself in 46. That suggests, in and of itself, being later in the chronology. Why would he start and stop taping himself?

Makes more sense that a) Alex got full Slendytranced and b) Alex is now ignorant to TO's presence thus c) he is not aware TO had been in and out of his room on at least one other occasion.


But then, once again, we have the conflicting key information. Jay took the key in 46 and the key is not there in 45, so that would imply 45 is later than 46.

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 		Why couldn't Alex have the key on him in 45? Maybe he was using it?

I am more comfortable resolving the key discrepancy like that than the taping issue. One does not simply start and stop taping yourself after 4 years at random.

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Mariolee wrote:
That help or kill thing really lends credence to Alex being TTA, what with the whole "Do I help or do I kill?" thing in the TTA vid a couple of vids ago.

I dunno, I'm inclined to think the reverse - Alex is begging to either be saved or killed, and TTA seems to be claiming to possess the means to do one or the other... and perhaps asking Jay which he'd rather TTA do.

Other things about this video:

This entry is undeniable proof that at some point along the way Jay decided that he couldn't trust Alex and needed to investigate him. Question is, when did he decide that? Was that just on the basis of what we've seen already, or did something happen which we haven't seen yet to make Jay do this? I think Jay would have to be extremely suspicious of Alex at this point to take this sort of risk.

Operator appearance scared the crap out of me. "Honey, I'm ho- oh, he's here. What do you want, Jay?"

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 		Ho...ly...Shit. That scared the ever loving krap out of me. O_O

Anywhom, if Alex didn't follow Jay, then he was probably caputer by the Operator. Or maybe he prepard a back door incase the Operator found him? (He's experience the Operator before, so he obviously has a few tricks for survival).

Jay following Alex isn't all that surprising. Jay has no clue what's going on, but Alex has already been through this, so Jay hopes that Alex might know/have something that can help him. Basically, just simple human curiousity.

And as for the key, Jay says he doesn't know what it's for. I was thinking that if Jay took the time to grab it when the Operator was right there, maybe it's a car key. But if that were the case, Jay would probably know that (since it probably would've been shown later on in the tape). But at the very least, we know that the key has to be pretty damn important. Important enough that Jay knows what it is, but doesn't hold on to it (until this Entry, of course). Maybe a house key? Or a key to another safe containing tapes?

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 		[quote="awakeasaurusrex"]
Mariolee wrote:

Operator appearance scared the crap out of me. "Honey, I'm ho- oh, he's here. What do you want, Jay?"

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://i54.tinypic.com/1zvq3nt.png


Rushed in ms paint, by yours truly.

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Foood
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awakeasaurusrex wrote:
This entry is undeniable proof that at some point along the way Jay decided that he couldn't trust Alex and needed to investigate him. Question is, when did he decide that? Was that just on the basis of what we've seen already, or did something happen which we haven't seen yet to make Jay do this? I think Jay would have to be extremely suspicious of Alex at this point to take this sort of risk.


I dunno, if this Entry takes place around Entry #45, then it's been three whole months since their last meeting. I can imagine Jay was getting pretty desperate to find out what's happening and sick of sitting around in his hotel room waiting for more info from Alex himself.

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 		My legitimate reaction to
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Slendy showing up like that was this.

http://i56.tinypic.com/n5imbk.jpg

Almost EXACTLY like that. That was terrifying.

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 		Alex: "Jessica is a solid 8/10, I'd BONE her."

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awakeasaurusrex
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Foood wrote:
awakeasaurusrex wrote:
This entry is undeniable proof that at some point along the way Jay decided that he couldn't trust Alex and needed to investigate him. Question is, when did he decide that? Was that just on the basis of what we've seen already, or did something happen which we haven't seen yet to make Jay do this? I think Jay would have to be extremely suspicious of Alex at this point to take this sort of risk.


I dunno, if this Entry takes place around Entry #45, then it's been three whole months since their last meeting. I can imagine Jay was getting pretty desperate to find out what's happening and sick of sitting around in his hotel room waiting for more info from Alex himself.

Not sure about that - given what Jay is risking here (if Alex is friendly, doing this might put that friendship in jeopardy at a time when Jay really needs allies, if Alex isn't friendly then he could potentially have seriously harmed Jay, had he chosen to.)

Moreover, I think the argument that this entry takes place some time before #46 is quite compelling. Not least because there's no sign of that key taped to the wall in Entry 45, in shots where it really should have been visible.

Hmmm. Thoughts on a timeline.

Entry 46: Jay, having become suspicious of Alex, decides to investigate, breaks in, finds key.

After Entry 46 and before Entry 45: Jay outright decides that Alex is a menace. It is possible that the key helps him find information to suggest this. Perhaps he and Tim meet up and Tim puts some cards on the table about exactly what is going on - maybe even inducting Jay into the secret society of masked creepers who are out to combat the Operator. Between them, Jay, Tim and the Gimp develop a theory that Alex has become a sort of gateway through which the Operator can come into our world, and they eventually come to a consensus that Alex needs to die. (We see evidence in Entry 46 that Alex doesn't necessarily disagree with this.)

Entry 45: The Super Masky Pals enact their assassination plan. It doesn't work because the Operator showed up.

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 		I don't have anything particularly important to contribute, but I would like to say that was probably the best legitimate scare I've had in the series so far, and it was also the first time the Operator's body language seemed outright threatening.

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Mariolee wrote:

That help or kill thing really lends credence to Alex being TTA, what with the whole "Do I help or do I kill?" thing in the TTA vid a couple of vids ago.


No, it doesn't.

It does, however, lend credence to TTA's videos being *about Alex*. Alex is begging for help or to be killed, even though he's being controlled, or shall we say... Operated like a puppet?

So TTA is still uncertain as to whether Alex can be helped, or if he should be killed.

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tijde wrote:
But Alex didn't seem to really want to get in. IIRC, Jay had to talk him into even knocking on the door. He could be hiding something in there.


But why bring Jay there at all? it doesn't make sense to wake up Jay, tell him to come with him to Amy's house, then "hide" something from Jay, not bother going in when he had the key TO go in, then just leave, tell Jay not to follow him, then go meet the Operator. x-x


I just rewatched #43 and you're right-- I didn't recall correctly. For some reason, I thought the stop at Amy's house in #43 happened while they were just driving around. I forgot that Alex specifically made that trip with Jay (as evidenced by the phone call, turning off the car, etc.). I think I took the "Alex is hiding something" idea partly from the fact that Jessica got kicked out.

BTW, that question nags me-- if Amy is still gone, who kicked Jessica out? I had the half-baked idea that it was either Alex, pretending to speak for a so-pissed-off-I-can't-even-speak-to-her Amy (thus getting her out of the house, so he could use it for something) or maybe a landlord, since if Amy's still gone, Jess would have to pay the whole rent. It was only half-baked because I realized that it makes more sense for Jessica to have moved sometime during the lost 7 mos., after Amy's disappearance (and after 43), and her new roomies kicked her out of a different house. Still, it nags me because it's unexplained-- seems weird to me. But maybe that's just me being nit-picky and overly complicated.

Besides, given Jay's mysteriously-financed hotel-hopping, the state of the abandoned Brian/Alex house and the fact that it's still empty in a college town, I think we're meant to gloss over things like who's paying the rent/mortgage/hotel bill. Smile

EDIT: I realize I went off on a tangent here, but I left it in because it might be relevant to the whole "The key is to Amy's house" idea.

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