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i just recieved a call !!!!
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clarkbaby
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i just recieved a call !!!!

Okay folks as i have said before i have no clue what im doing here but I just got a call from Ray gatin!!!!

he first asked me to give the matrix password after that told me to find the gatin.file AND THEN KEPT REPEATING
remember the Key is everything
remember the key is everything

I am not sure if anyone else will get the call he told me he didnt have much time left and that i might me the only one!
i hope someone can figure this all out! this is my first game so i am at a lost an to be honest my PC isnt very up to date and right at this time I wish I had a faster modem!!

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oooh. He called you AND your name is in the puzzle.

Shocked

I wouldn't leave your doors unlocked tonight.
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That sounds like something HITLER would say!

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clarkbaby
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Gee Thanks!! Normally I would be freaking out but I gave him My cell # which is registered to another state!

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loitus
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Interesting, I suppose that "remember the key is everything" must be a clue regarding this in the raygat.qnc file: ONGKR MPUHH JWIMB IQJJL OUQJU LSBTX OMGYB MWYXL DCGKK KGJYV DQGJU JEHQI
PAOHD ZMCXH MXCKY VQFEI JOVLO VXMCK FWCCK QPFHO FACTK KSIKV IXWSN QHJTW
JOASO IOTTF FRFLX BMKO

I still can't figure it out though...
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Ehsan
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clarkbaby you seem to be the only person who got the call.. so can you give some more info if you don't mind? Was anything else said at all?? How many times did he repeat "the key is everything"

You said he wanted you to find the "gatin.file" so as loitus said, this is probably raygat.qnc and the contents look like a vigenere cipher.. but trying to decrpyt with "everything" as the key doesn't get us anywhere..

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Its not straight Vigenere at least...I wrote a cracker, it returns garbage as possible keys :-/

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witchywindy
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what is with the webhold.qnc file? isn't there a way to change the symbology in that, could that hold a clue to crack the gatin code? i feel that might be important somehow, as it is the only other weird page besides raygatin.qnc.

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Witchy, a few posts down, a gentleman converted than file to a GIF image file, turns out it's just a duplicate of what's on the frontpage of QND. I think it was just a wild goose chase with that file...
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witchywindy
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oops, sorry. forgot that post...not enough sleep. wait... is there anything in the picture pertaining to keys? i don't think so, it's too obvious. Embarassed

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I thought it may have a message hidden in it using steg software, but I couldn't find any... Sad
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And he [Hiram] made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one rim to the other it was round all about, and...a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about....And it was an hand breadth thick...." — First Kings, chapter 7, verses 23 and 26

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what about...

from the message log:

Origin 63RaymondGatin | Destination 41AngelaRoss

Seriously, just look into Rama for me.
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Not that all of the messages fit together but this one kinda stood out to me. He messages Angela Ross about looking into something then calls her with the same type of message, find the file. Could they be tied together? Any ideas on what Rama is?

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loitus
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Rama and the Ramayana:
Lessons in Dharma
Developed by Jean Johnson, New York University.
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The Ramayana Story

Introduction

The Ramayana is one of the two great Indian epics. The Ramayana tells about life in India around 1000 BCE and offers models in dharma. The hero, Rama, lived his whole life by the rules of dharma; in fact, that was why Indian consider him heroic. When Rama was a young boy, he was the perfect son. Later he was an ideal husband to his faithful wife, Sita, and a responsible ruler of Aydohya. "Be as Rama," young Indians have been taught for 2,000 years; "Be as Sita."

Prince Rama was the eldest of four sons and was to become king when his father retired from ruling. His stepmother, however, wanted to see her son Bharata, Rama's younger brother, become king. Remembering that the king had once promised to grant her any two wishes she desired, she demanded that Rama be banished and Bharata be crowned. The king had to keep his word to his wife and ordered Rama's banishment. Rama accepted the decree unquestioningly. "I gladly obey father's command," he said to his stepmother. "Why, I would go even if you ordered it."

When Sita, Rama's wife, heard Rama was to be banished, she begged to accompany him to his forest retreat. "As shadow to substance, so wife to husband," she reminded Rama. "Is not the wife's dharma to be at her husband's side? Let me walk ahead of you so that I may smooth the path for your feet," she pleaded. Rama agreed, and Rama, Sita and his brother Lakshmana all went to the forest.

When Bharata learned what his mother had done, he sought Rama in the forest. "The eldest must rule," he reminded Rama. "Please come back and claim your rightful place as king." Rama refused to go against his father's command, so Bharata took his brother's sandals and said, "I shall place these sandals on the throne as symbols of your authority. I shall rule only as regent in your place, and each day I shall put my offerings at the feet of my Lord. When the fourteen years of banishment are over, I shall joyously return the kingdom to you." Rama was very impressed with Bharata's selflessness. As Bharata left, Rama said to him, "I should have known that you would renounce gladly what most men work lifetimes to learn to give up."

Later in the story, Ravana, the evil King of Lanka, (what is probably present-day Sri Lanka) abducted Sita. Rama mustered the aid of a money army, built a causeway across to Lanka, released Sita and brought her safely back to Aydohya. In order to set a good example, however, Rama demanded that Sita prove her purity before he could take her back as his wife. Rama, Sita and Bharata are all examples of persons following their dharma.

This lesson focuses on how the Ramayana teaches Indians to perform their dharma. Encourage students to pick out examples of characters in the epic who were faithful to their dharma and those who violated their dharma.

Objectives

Through this activity, students will be able to
* recognize and tell the Ramayana
* understand how the Ramayana is a model for dharma
* appreciate the importance of Rama and Sita as role models for Indians
* understand the central importance of dharma in Indian life

Teaching Time One class period



Procedure

1. Review with students the Indian concept of dharma. Remind them that dharma is like one's role in a play or position on a team. For the play to go well or for the team to win, each person must "stay in character" or "play his position." If each thing in the universe does its dharma, the universe functions smoothly. When people or things violate their dharma, things fall apart.

1a. As an alternative strategy, tell students that Rama, Bharata and Sita are very important in India because they always did their dharma. Tell them to listen carefully to the story and then figure out what they think dharma means.

2. Tell the story of the Ramayana to the students.

3. Hand out the different visuals and ask groups of students to figure out what part of the story their picture illustrates. Get the students to tell the story again by describing what's happening in their pictures.

4. Discuss how Rama, Sita and Bharata all did their dharma. Ask students to explain in their own words what they think dharma means based on how the characters acted.

5. Was Rama a good son? A good husband? A good ruler? Was Bharata a faithful and trustworthy younger brother? Was Sita a faithful and loyal wife?

6. Several characters violate dharma. How did Ravana violate the dharma of a faithful husband and a good king? How did the raksasa sister of Ravana violate her dharma?

7. Based on this story, what is dharma? Why do Indians consider it so important? Imagine if tree started to walk or apples to talk. Could society function if nothing had discrete properties and appropriate ways of acting?

8. Review the concept of dharma and remind students that Indians consider doing one's dharma is one of the four main goals in life.



Synopsis of the Ramayana Story
1. Dasharatha, King of Aydohya, has three wives and four sons. Rama is the eldest. His mother is Kaushalya. Bharata is the son of his second and favorite wife, Queen Kaikeyi. The other two are twins, Lakshman and Shatrughna. Rama and Bharata are blue, perhaps indicating they were dark skinned or originally south Indian deities.

2) A sage takes the boys out to train them in archery. Rama has hit an apple hanging from a string.

3) In a neighboring city the ruler's daughter is named Sita. When it was time for Sita to choose her bridegroom, at a ceremony called a swayamvara, the princes were asked to string a giant bow. No one else can even lift the bow, but as Rama bends it, he not only strings it but breaks it in two. Sita indicates she has chosen Rama as her husband by putting a garland around his neck. The disappointed suitors watch.

4) King Dasharatha, Rama's father, decides it is time to give his throne to his eldest son Rama and retire to the forest to seek moksha. Everyone seems pleased. This plan fulfills the rules of dharma because an eldest son should rule and, if a son can take over one's responsibilities, one's last years may be spent in a search for moksha. In addition, everyone loves Rama. However Rama's step-mother, the king's second wife, is not pleased. She wants her son, Bharata, to rule. Because of an oath Dasharatha had made to her years before, she gets the king to agree to banish Rama for fourteen years and to crown Bharata, even though the king, on bended knee, begs her not to demand such things. Broken-hearted, the devastated king cannot face Rama with the news and Kaikeyi must tell him.

5) Rama, always obedient, is as content to go into banishment in the forest as to be crowned king. Sita convinces Rama that she belongs at his side and his brother Lakshman also begs to accompany them. Rama, Sita and Lakshman set out for the forest.

Bharata, whose mother's evil plot has won him the throne, is very upset when he finds out what has happened. Not for a moment does he consider breaking the rules of dharma and becoming king in Rama's place. He goes to Rama's forest retreat and begs Rama to return and rule, but Rama refuses. "We must obey father," Rama says. Bharata then takes Rama's sandals saying, "I will put these on the throne, and every day I shall place the fruits of my work at the feet on my Lord." Embracing Rama, he takes the sandals and returns to Aydohya.

6) Years pass and Rama, Sita and Lakshman are very happy in the forest. Rama and Lakshman destroy the rakshasas (evil creatures) who disturb the sages in their meditations. One day a rakshasa princess tries to seduce Rama, and Lakshmana wounds her and drives her away. She returns to her brother Ravana, the ten-headed ruler of Lanka (Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon), and tells her brother (who has a weakness for beautiful women) about lovely Sita.

Ravana devises a plan to abduct Sita. He sends a magical golden deer which Sita desires. Rama and Lakshman go off to hunt the deer, first drawing a protective circle around Sita and warning her she will be safe as long as she does not step outside the circle. As they go off, Ravana (who can change his shape) appears as a holy man begging alms. The moment Sita steps outside the circle to give him food, Ravana grabs her and carries her off the his kingdom in Lanka.




7) Rama is broken-hearted when he returns to the empty hut and cannot find Sita. A band of monkeys offer to help him find Sita.
Ravana has carried Sita to his palace in Lanka, but he cannot force her to be his wife so he puts her in a grove and alternately sweet-talks her and threatens her in an attempt to get her to agree to marry him. Sita will not even look at him but thinks only of her beloved Rama. Hanuman, the general of the monkey band can fly since his father is the wind, and Hanuman flies to Lanka and, finding Sita in the grove, comforts her and tells her Rama will soon come and save her.
Cool Ravana's men capture Hanuman, and Ravana orders them to wrap Hanuman's tail in cloth and to set it on fire. With his tail burning, Hanuman hops from house-top to house-top, setting Lanka afire. He then flies back to Rama to tell him where Sita is.

9) Rama, Lakshman and the monkey army build a causeway from the tip of India to Lanka and cross over to Lanka. A might battle ensues. Rama kills several of Ravana's brothers and then
Rama confronts ten-headed Ravana. (Ravana is known for his wisdom as well as for his weakness for women which may explain why he is pictured as very brainy.) Rama finally kills Ravana.

10. Rama frees Sita. After Sita proves here purity, they return to Ayodhya and Rama becomes king. His rule, Ram-rajya, is an ideal time when everyone does his or her dharma and "fathers never have to light the funeral pyres for their sons." Mahatma Gandhi dreamed that one day modern India would become a Ram-rajya.
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Loitus, I think a quick summary and hyperlink to that dissertation would have been sufficient. Wink
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What about the scifi classic Rendevous (sic) with Rama? Anyone remember the synopsis?

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I've read it, by Arthur C. Clarke, it's to be made into a film soon by Morgan Freeman's production company and to be directed by David Fincher (Fight Club)
"At first, only a few things are known about the celestial object that astronomers dub Rama. It is huge, weighing more than ten trillion tons. And it is hurtling through the solar system at inconceivable speed. Then a space probe confirms the unthinkable: Rama is no natural object. It is, incredible, an interstellar spacecraft. Space explorers and planet-bound scientists alike prepare for mankind's first encounter with alien intelligence. It will kindle their wildest dreams... and fan their darkest fears. For no one knows who the Ramans are or why they have come. And now the moment of rendezvous awaits -- just behind a Raman airlock door."
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