Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:51 pm
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
[VIDEO] Entry #47
Moderators: Giskard, JKatkina, Zarggg
View previous topicView next topic
Page 19 of 39 [573 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, ..., 37, 38, 39  Next
Author Message
ALEXGORDON
Decorated


Joined: 16 Jul 2011
Posts: 171
Location: Seattle, Washington
Dray wrote:
O_O Forgive me for trout, but I haven't seen any reference to this in the past few pages as I've been poking through... Do other folks think that perhaps there is some mind erasure going on between Jay and Alex? It's as if they aren't aware that they were this close to the Operator shortly ago. Now they're arguing over busting into houses and masked guys chasing folks around a while ago, but no mention of "oh hey, and then the Operator showed up as soon as you did!"

...Or was Alex trying to refer to the Operator as a masked guy? One would think that they'd be past the stage of believing that the Operator was just a guy in a thick pile of pantyhose at this point, though...
Slightly OOG: I think Troseph are milking the two theories that either Alex is working with, or cannot see TO anymore—thus the lack of talking to him in this entry.

(1.) If Alex is doing something devious with The Operator, it would be only natural that he would stay mysterious about everything regarding him. 2.) If Alex can't see TO anymore, then why would he bring him up?

Note: Jay referenced TO by asking how Alex got out of the house. However, Alex never answered.)

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:00 am
 View user's profile MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
Dray
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?


Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Posts: 2578
Location: Cowtown, AB
JKatkina wrote:
I think Jay made oblique reference to the Operator's presence, getting all "how did you get out of your house?!", but that Alex had either been mindwiped of the event or was just being really sketchy and evasive.

On that note, chalk this entry and all its revelations up on the "Alex is a huge asshole" board. It just screams to me that he had no intention ever of finding Amy because he knows where she is -- so very, very dead. He's been keeping Jay, who is otherwise gung-ho about investimagating, in limbo, and has just straight up been keeping Jessica, as Amy's roommate and (likely) friend, totally out of the loop. He played both of them. Maybe to buy himself some time to come up with a good cover story for Amy's missing-ness, or... oh god, I don't know, his motives seem really fuzzy to me. But he's a bad dude, either because he's nefarious on his own or because he's now under the Operator's control. Either way.


Ahh, I see. I haven't watched the entry again, yet, so I've missed a lot of the details.

I'm repeatedly finding it strange that they are brushing Alex with the crazy paint this season, as the very first thing that we hear about him in season one is that he's a pretty okay kind of guy. And we haven't seen anything in season one or two that suggests anything like that. Everyone is annoyed by him, or being suspiciously gone-missing'd (and oh good god, Brian's disappearance becomes all the more fishy when lined up with Amy's...) by him, or completely out of the loop'd by him (re: Jay in 2006, Jessica over the course of last summer...)

What the fuck, Alex?

Maybe Jay is just one of those people who has only ever hung out with shitty friends, so he believed that Alex wasn't a dastard even if that wasn't the case. XD

ALEXGOURDON wrote:
Note: Jay referenced TO by asking how Alex got out of the house. However, Alex never answered.


Hmm, that would make sense, I suppose. Alex seems to easily be able to say one thing after having done exactly the opposite. I feel like it doesn't make sense that he simply can't see the Operator. It's more likely that he's so mind-fracked by the Operator that being in his presence nets him a brain-blank while in his presence... the drawing 'help' etc. seems like a visual mantra to try to guard against the mind-blanking, if an ineffectual one?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:05 am
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
sweetgums
Decorated


Joined: 24 Jul 2011
Posts: 240

 		Now for something different...
Just read/skimmed the whole thread and I have only this to add: it was pretty much established that Alex was nothing less than pissed with Jay as they were arguing, I was actually expecting Alex to hit Jay at any moment out of frustration, which brings me to a question... when Jay took Alex's keys and threw them in his car, why did Alex submit so easily to Jay's request of giving him Jessica's number? I mean, if it had been me I would've tackled Jay and grabbed the keys to his car and get them back. Wasn't he determined to not help Jay anymore? Why did he concede so easily?

Was it all an act?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:20 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Zebez
Unfettered


Joined: 17 Jul 2011
Posts: 618

 		Re: Now for something different...
sweetgums wrote:
Just read/skimmed the whole thread and I have only this to add: it was pretty much established that Alex was nothing less than pissed with Jay as they were arguing, I was actually expecting Alex to hit Jay at any moment out of frustration, which brings me to a question... when Jay took Alex's keys and threw them in his car, why did Alex submit so easily to Jay's request of giving him Jessica's number? I mean, if it had been me I would've tackled Jay and grabbed the keys to his car and get them back. Wasn't he determined to not help Jay anymore? Why did he concede so easily?

Was it all an act?


I have a feeling that while their friendship is going down in flames, there's still a tiny, tiny bit of it there. Alex has always been the smarter friend that cares for his idiot and there might be some conflicting feelings in him.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:23 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
evilsuperpowers
Boot


Joined: 05 Apr 2011
Posts: 69
JKatkina wrote:
He played both of them. Maybe to buy himself some time to come up with a good cover story for Amy's missing-ness

Crazy random theory, maybe this is what Alex wanted to show Jay in Entry #38? Amy's dead body. Maybe he had a way to frame Jay? The more I think about it, the more crazy it sounds...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:24 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Lucifox
Boot

Joined: 26 May 2011
Posts: 36

 		Re: Now for something different...
sweetgums wrote:
Just read/skimmed the whole thread and I have only this to add: it was pretty much established that Alex was nothing less than pissed with Jay as they were arguing, I was actually expecting Alex to hit Jay at any moment out of frustration, which brings me to a question... when Jay took Alex's keys and threw them in his car, why did Alex submit so easily to Jay's request of giving him Jessica's number? I mean, if it had been me I would've tackled Jay and grabbed the keys to his car and get them back. Wasn't he determined to not help Jay anymore? Why did he concede so easily?

Was it all an act?


If I were in Alex's situation I would have done the same thing. If I was in cahoots with TO then I would give Jay the number then just start packing up to get away, no point in trying to convince Jay that he doesn't need it and then sit around until he finds out what I did anyways.

If not teamed up with TO then it's just as simple, he wanted to help Jay but something was holding him back. Now he just wants out and Jay doesn't so as a last bit of help he gives away a phone number as a means to get Jay off his back. These are of course just my opinion but to me it makes sense why he would be so compliant.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:26 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
MorbidPuppies
Unfictologist


Joined: 24 Nov 2010
Posts: 1389
Location: Winnipeg, MB

 		Re: Now for something different...
sweetgums wrote:
Just read/skimmed the whole thread and I have only this to add: it was pretty much established that Alex was nothing less than pissed with Jay as they were arguing, I was actually expecting Alex to hit Jay at any moment out of frustration, which brings me to a question... when Jay took Alex's keys and threw them in his car, why did Alex submit so easily to Jay's request of giving him Jessica's number? I mean, if it had been me I would've tackled Jay and grabbed the keys to his car and get them back. Wasn't he determined to not help Jay anymore? Why did he concede so easily?

Was it all an act?


It could have been more of a 'Get him off my case for a while thing'. Alex was reluctant to give up Jessica's number, but Jay knows where she lives anyways (as far as we know, could have been a fake out by Alex in 44 though).
So he knew he was going to try and contact he anyways, so he took the easy way out. Plus it let Jay leave without further pushing how he got away from the Operator in his house. He knew Jay would ask about Amy, but by the time Jay contacted her, Alex could have abandoned his apartment, so he can rest assured Jay wont be watching him.
_________________
@MorbidPuppies - You Can't See My True Self!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:28 am
 View user's profile MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
Dray
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?


Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Posts: 2578
Location: Cowtown, AB

 		He did shove Jay around a hell of a lot in this entry, though. Maybe it's just that the friendly chipper sort of person that Jay described in the entry has been so irrevocably damaged that he's beyond saving at this point.

Hmm, I guess it could also be that Alex has no idea that Amy could be missing by his own actions. He could suspect that he's to blame and be really scared and pissed off about this all... and in truth he hasn't been lying after all, so much as not being able to tell the whole truth.

That particular tape is rising in importance. It could be the season finale, for sure. It could be the proof that Alex did harm to Amy, and he's unable to or unwilling to acknowledge that otherwise.

How did Jay come by Alex's harddrive in the hotel? And get the code with the zero with the x through it? We've seen some evidence of maskies tackling Alex, and Jay even makes a clumsy attempt to trespass... I have a feeling that this will all culminate in seeing them try to make another try for that one particular tape, and then view the horrors that were on it.

Hmm, it would be interesting and maddening to see an entry where characters are WATCHING a video but we don't get to see what's on it...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:30 am
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
j1001
Veteran


Joined: 11 May 2011
Posts: 106
Location: California
Dray wrote:
He did shove Jay around a hell of a lot in this entry, though. Maybe it's just that the friendly chipper sort of person that Jay described in the entry has been so irrevocably damaged that he's beyond saving at this point.

Hmm, I guess it could also be that Alex has no idea that Amy could be missing by his own actions. He could suspect that he's to blame and be really scared and pissed off about this all... and in truth he hasn't been lying after all, so much as not being able to tell the whole truth.

That particular tape is rising in importance. It could be the season finale, for sure. It could be the proof that Alex did harm to Amy, and he's unable to or unwilling to acknowledge that otherwise.

How did Jay come by Alex's harddrive in the hotel? And get the code with the zero with the x through it? We've seen some evidence of maskies tackling Alex, and Jay even makes a clumsy attempt to trespass... I have a feeling that this will all culminate in seeing them try to make another try for that one particular tape, and then view the horrors that were on it.

Hmm, it would be interesting and maddening to see an entry where characters are WATCHING a video but we don't get to see what's on it...


I love everything about this.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:35 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
MorbidPuppies
Unfictologist


Joined: 24 Nov 2010
Posts: 1389
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Dray wrote:
That particular tape is rising in importance. It could be the season finale, for sure. It could be the proof that Alex did harm to Amy, and he's unable to or unwilling to acknowledge that otherwise.


Maybe that tape will lead to a Red Tower type of event, where Jay in real time acquires it again, whether or not its with the key or by other means, and then we finally see what was so important on the tape.
_________________
@MorbidPuppies - You Can't See My True Self!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:41 am
 View user's profile MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
ToxicityLevel
Veteran


Joined: 21 Jun 2011
Posts: 123
Location: Southern California

 		I know that I probably will get MOUNTAINS of flamage for saying so, but I believe the Operator is in this video.

He's just not during the part everyone references.

I tried to screencap but I have no way to frame-by-frame and when you pause Youtube, everything blurs and well-- fuck. I just couldn't get a good cap, okay. But it's there. Someone cooler than me can probably find it.

So set your rez to 720p and scoot the video to about 2:45. Pop that bad boy into fullscreen.

Alex has just RAEG'd and backed J up a good distance from the only lightsource (that lamp in the distance) and is now walking back to his car, keys-a-swingin'. J spins around, turning his back on Alex (maybe to see if anyone's watching their exchange?) and focuses for a second on his own shadow, which is in approximately the middle of the frame. It is dark, and obviously his shadow. Alex is behind J, at his car. This means that logically this will put any shadow that would belong to Alex to J's LEFT.

With me so far?

So J breathes a moment and we're now at 2:46, the MAGIC SECOND. Because as J adjusts the camera, you can MOST CERTAINLY SEE SLENDYSHADOW to the right of J's shadow, at a somewhat 45 degree angle. It is a lighter color, but it hangs about for about 3-5 seconds until J turns back to face Alex. It is torso, it is long arms, it is the Operator. Then J spins back and is all, "Gimme Jessica's phone number!" and we go back to our regularly scheduled dramalogue.

With all the attention on shadows in this part of the video, I'm surprised no one else paid attention and noticed!

Also, you may now give me SpaceBrownies and Stroopwafels in congratulations. Cool

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:46 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Dray
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?


Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Posts: 2578
Location: Cowtown, AB
MorbidPuppies wrote:
Maybe that tape will lead to a Red Tower type of event, where Jay in real time acquires it again, whether or not its with the key or by other means, and then we finally see what was so important on the tape.


I can't imagine that this would be the case unless the tape had fallen into TTA's/Tim's/Masky's hands, (And I'm using slash-marks there because I'm not 100% convinced that they're all the same person.) and that Jay has to meet up with them in order to get it and find out for himself.

I think that it may be more likely that Jay is going through tapes in order right now, and will get to that one towards the finale. (If it were me I'd look for it ASAP and watch it just to see what was so important...) Either way, hopefully he'll tweet about the tape itself if he does or doesn't have it... that could lead to some answers. Very Happy

ToxicityLevel wrote:
I tried to screencap but I have no way to frame-by-frame and when you pause Youtube, everything blurs and well-- fuck. I just couldn't get a good cap, okay. But it's there. Someone cooler than me can probably find it.


Oh hai thar, try keepvid.com and then save and watch via quicktime or another media player. That makes things much easier! I'm not seeing the shadow you mentioned, though!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:51 am
 View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger
 Back to top 
Graved
Veteran

Joined: 20 Apr 2010
Posts: 128

 		Re: Now for something different...
sweetgums wrote:
Why did he concede so easily?

Was it all an act?

Probably because he saw The Operator standing by the J car (4:21-4:22 mark).
Quote:
Someone cooler than me can probably find it

I got good screen at my first watch, but I didn't read whole thread and I didn't saved it Confused

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:53 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
ZargggModerator
Unfictologist


Joined: 23 Dec 2010
Posts: 1660

 		Holy shit.

A week or so back, when we were all discussing how we wanted the remaining episodes of the season to go (before we knew there would be a season 3), I had the idea that we would need a least a few episodes of heavy exposition to start tying things together, but never got around to posting that.

This is that entry. Or at least the first of them.

Thoughts on what I've seen and read so far:

All you guys talking about the (lack of) Operator presence in this video are jumping at shadows. Literally. If the Operator was going to make an appearance, it would be much more obvious at this point. He's aware of both Alex and Jay now, so there's no point for him to skulk in the background.

When Alex gets mad, weird things happen to the camera -- like when it goes completely out of focus while Alex is yelling at Jay. Whether or not he's a Slender-Slave, he's definitely been affected by the Operator's presence around him.

Jay finally grows some balls. (Thanks, JKatkina.)

Alex has purposefully been keeping Jessica and Jay out of the loop. Remember when Alex left that voicemail for Jessica saying that he talked Amy, so don't worry about it anymore? I think that was a preemptive measure to stop her from getting involved, because he had to call her in front of Jay before at the old house. Alex giving Jay her number was a last-ditch thing and he probably thought, "Screw it, if Jay wants to get her involved in this, it's his problem."

I'm sure this entry is the start of events that lead to Jay and Jessica being in the hotel together at the end of the seven months. Whether they end up going Shaggy and Velma on this remains to be seen.

Alex's comment about "masked psychopaths" definitely seems to tie the Maskys to Jay's chapter of the story. Where TTA himself (themselves?) fits into this still remains to be seen.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:53 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
ToxicityLevel
Veteran


Joined: 21 Jun 2011
Posts: 123
Location: Southern California
Dray wrote:
Hmm, it would be interesting and maddening to see an entry where characters are WATCHING a video but we don't get to see what's on it...


I was thinking this myself! I agree that it would be kind of maddening and interesting all at the same time. When Alex showed the tape to J in this entry, I thought that's what was gonna happen and I wasn't quite sure how I felt about that.

I do like the tongue-in-cheek bits of humor, like about Joseph's keys and J's "I'm not that stupid!" sort of poke. But the bit of dialogue that really made me laugh was, "Gimme Jessica's number!" and then the loooooong pause and Alex's "No!". Haha. It was just so awkward, like he almost forgot his line or something.

To be truthful I think that Troy's acting has much improved in this episode. Joseph's acting is the acting I have the trouble with in this one. But that could be because he ISN'T quite the asshole Alex is and struggles with how to honestly portray that.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:54 am
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 19 of 39 [573 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, ..., 37, 38, 39  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » Marble Hornets
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group