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parsifal
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Riovas wrote:
and probably lawkes wrote:
So has anyone brought up that maybe "the twins" are TO and Alex?

Earlier someone had put forward the idea that TO was Alex's 'imaginary friend gone wrong' or some kind of 'thought form' originating from Alex, which would mean (at least the way I'm imagining it) they they both would have been 'born' at the same time, kind of like twins are.



As punxtr mentioned, in one entry Alex began talking about trials where people were hung and burned. This is often thought of to be the origin of slendy, though we have to see the rest of the event to be sure. However, If Slendy is Alex's imaginary friend, how would Jay have seen him? Rather, a more reasonable explanation is the "thought form" you were kinda leading onto. Slendy may exist only if you believe, kinda like freddy krueger. But, if this is true, we have to find who told Alex and Tim, and possibly Brian, about Slendy to begin with.

Good first post though Very Happy It's nice to see new people actually reading other's theories before posting


The Operator is a criminal from olden times that they strapped to one of those trees. Over time, the tree grew, thus stretching him out. It was a terrible way to die, and forests are creepy, thus he turned into some kind of supernatural, maybe-evil, ghost-like being.

All of the information we needed to trace his origin was given to us a while ago.

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parsifal wrote:
Riovas wrote:
and probably lawkes wrote:
So has anyone brought up that maybe "the twins" are TO and Alex?

Earlier someone had put forward the idea that TO was Alex's 'imaginary friend gone wrong' or some kind of 'thought form' originating from Alex, which would mean (at least the way I'm imagining it) they they both would have been 'born' at the same time, kind of like twins are.



As punxtr mentioned, in one entry Alex began talking about trials where people were hung and burned. This is often thought of to be the origin of slendy, though we have to see the rest of the event to be sure. However, If Slendy is Alex's imaginary friend, how would Jay have seen him? Rather, a more reasonable explanation is the "thought form" you were kinda leading onto. Slendy may exist only if you believe, kinda like freddy krueger. But, if this is true, we have to find who told Alex and Tim, and possibly Brian, about Slendy to begin with.

Good first post though Very Happy It's nice to see new people actually reading other's theories before posting


The Operator is a criminal from olden times that they strapped to one of those trees. Over time, the tree grew, thus stretching him out. It was a terrible way to die, and forests are creepy, thus he turned into some kind of supernatural, maybe-evil, ghost-like being.

All of the information we needed to trace his origin was given to us a while ago.


Uh, we need the continuation of that Entry to finish up what he was going to say, maybe theres more.
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I realize this is most likely wrong; I'm just trying to throw a new theory in here.

But after watching entry #47 and seeing the even further focus on that mysterious tape that Alex won't allow Jay to get his hands on. What are the chances that that's what totheark is talking about when he says, "I saw it."


This theory completely ignores everything else TTA said in this video, which is why I feel it's wrong. lol

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ALEXGORDON wrote:
I realize this is most likely wrong; I'm just trying to throw a new theory in here.

But after watching entry #47 and seeing the even further focus on that mysterious tape that Alex won't allow Jay to get his hands on. What are the chances that that's what totheark is talking about when he says, "I saw it."


This theory completely ignores everything else TTA said in this video, which is why I feel it's wrong. lol


That is defiantly interesting, so maybe the eye shown wasn't who saw it, but who's secret has been seen by TTA.
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First of all, whoo, first post. First time caller, long time listener.

I just wanted to add a point that nobody seems to have explicitly said in the 38-odd pages for this entry: That totheark has been famous for posting snippets of video that would have existed during periods in the tapes where there is lost time. Thus I think Classified has a good chance of being during Entry #46, between the point at which Alex's camera shifts wildly and the point at which it ends up on the ground next to him.

I've always wondered how totheark gets these snippets. Does he somehow replace the tape, record what he gets, and then put the original back? Does he steal the information right off the tapes? I don't know.

totheark is also famous for superimposing Operator symbols and other icons on things. The fact that Hoody has no Operator symbol on him in Entry 46 may be irrelevant; if you focus on the X and keep the rest of Hoody's torso in your peripheral vision from 0:06 to the end, the X doesn't appear to move with the clothing.

To make this really speculative, the idea of the Twins as X and O strikes me as being very interesting. If the Twins were against the Operator, then perhaps the symbols are just that, symbolic: In terms of power, or influence, or something along those lines, X + O = Operator. The two sides are evenly matched and are at a stalemate. Thus the Operator and the Twins may be trying to recruit Alex and Jay and perhaps more people to shift the tide in their favour to destroy the other side.

This would explain the aggression in 46: It was a sting operation designed to kill or maim Alex, because the Twins knew that Alex wouldn't fight for them. The Operator was defending his... property? Turf? Recruit? Ally? Whatever relationship Alex has with him, he most definitely has one.

Going back to the hotel and the Operator symbol in the code for the safe, perhaps The Operator gave the code to Jay. The Operator could have 'recruited' Jessica, whom Masky killed or the Operator whisked away, and this is why Masky attacked Jay when he went for the tapes. The Operator may want Jay to have the tapes, for reasons unknown.

I have no idea how much of that is rehash and what is original theory. Feel free to rebuke whatever is deserving.

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3023ogilvyd wrote:
The Operator was defending his... property? Turf? Recruit? Ally? Whatever relationship Alex has with him, he most definitely has one.
Meat Puppet.

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ReverendJ wrote:
3023ogilvyd wrote:
The Operator was defending his... property? Turf? Recruit? Ally? Whatever relationship Alex has with him, he most definitely has one.
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MorbidPuppies wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
3023ogilvyd wrote:
The Operator was defending his... property? Turf? Recruit? Ally? Whatever relationship Alex has with him, he most definitely has one.
Meat Puppet.


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Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Arm wrote:
Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Magyk wrote:
Twins don't have to be the same gender guys.

Jessica is Alex's long lost sister.

Boom. Roasted.



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^Alex's reaction


wut. they weren't boning or anything were they?

Well, Alex was over at her place a lot. Maybe one day Amy wasn't home, and... You never know.


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Sorry if it has already benn said, but:



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Riovas
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^ there's been a bit of debate about this, you should go back and read some of it.

Mostly, [][] could be twins, but not in the way you are thinking. Since the message was written backwards, and you view the brackets backwards, you get ][][, which looks like the Gemini symbol for twins

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O.o That's ingenious! Nice find, guys!

3023ogilvyd wrote:
First of all, whoo, first post. First time caller, long time listener.

I just wanted to add a point that nobody seems to have explicitly said in the 38-odd pages for this entry: That totheark has been famous for posting snippets of video that would have existed during periods in the tapes where there is lost time. Thus I think Classified has a good chance of being during Entry #46, between the point at which Alex's camera shifts wildly and the point at which it ends up on the ground next to him.

I've always wondered how totheark gets these snippets. Does he somehow replace the tape, record what he gets, and then put the original back? Does he steal the information right off the tapes? I don't know.

totheark is also famous for superimposing Operator symbols and other icons on things. The fact that Hoody has no Operator symbol on him in Entry 46 may be irrelevant; if you focus on the X and keep the rest of Hoody's torso in your peripheral vision from 0:06 to the end, the X doesn't appear to move with the clothing.

To make this really speculative, the idea of the Twins as X and O strikes me as being very interesting. If the Twins were against the Operator, then perhaps the symbols are just that, symbolic: In terms of power, or influence, or something along those lines, X + O = Operator. The two sides are evenly matched and are at a stalemate. Thus the Operator and the Twins may be trying to recruit Alex and Jay and perhaps more people to shift the tide in their favour to destroy the other side.

This would explain the aggression in 46: It was a sting operation designed to kill or maim Alex, because the Twins knew that Alex wouldn't fight for them. The Operator was defending his... property? Turf? Recruit? Ally? Whatever relationship Alex has with him, he most definitely has one.

Going back to the hotel and the Operator symbol in the code for the safe, perhaps The Operator gave the code to Jay. The Operator could have 'recruited' Jessica, whom Masky killed or the Operator whisked away, and this is why Masky attacked Jay when he went for the tapes. The Operator may want Jay to have the tapes, for reasons unknown.

I have no idea how much of that is rehash and what is original theory. Feel free to rebuke whatever is deserving.


That Masky and Hoody are O and X respectively is really interesting! I will have to watch this again to see what you mean...

I also think that you might have something with Jessica being recruited by the Operator, as it were, though I think that it probably wasn't with the intent to pass the tapes on to Jay. Rather, Jessica had admitted signs similar to what I think was extrapolated from Alex -- that she lived near woods as a child, that she has been losing times and having dreams of being stalked by the Operator. To be fair, it could be that that's something that everyone experiences, as Jay never describes any dreams that he has, and he's been known to lose chunks of time just like everyone else. To say, then, that he's specifically the target of the Masky/Hoody combo while Jessica and Alex are the target of the Operator doesn't add up to the rest of the evidence.

I get the feeling that Jessica was 'recruited' long ago, and that the Operator's motives are not as clear and simple as wanting to pass tapes on to Jay. Moreover, I don't know that Hoody and Masky are equals of the Operator, so much as they're probably annoying gnats that won't go away.

Touching on the recruitment idea again, it's interesting that Alex eventually wound up frequently sharing space with her, via Amy. (Forgive if this is a trout, I've been lurking not nearly enough!) It demonstrates that he has not been Operator-free in the last five years, but perhaps has been drawn to a place where another Operator-victim's been on the lurk. Why they need to be in the same vicinity is uncertain. Maybe it makes life easier for the Operator? Maybe lewd intentions that I know you're thinking deleted ?

On the other hand, everything that totheark had been doing in season one had been to force Jay back into investigating the Operator, no matter the cost. It could be that, rather than the Operator drawing Alex into the same vicinity as Jessica, it'd been totheark trying to mash both those two and Jay into the same area?

Ha ha, this tangent's whirling further off course than I'd meant it to. I'm at a loss about the tape planted in #26 now, now that Alex's motives are usurped by the fact that he loses time directly to the Operator. Was it put there by totheark after all? Was it planted by Alex when he wasn't himself? Was it planted by Jessica, given she was in the vicinity....? This has probably all been discussed to death, so don't trout me, bros!

Long ramble short, I like your ideas but I think that the Operator's motives are probably less cut and dried. Or maybe I just don't want to believe that he thinks in tangible goals...

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I still can't buy that the Operator has anything personally to do with the tapes. Everything I've seen points to him being an outside influence, albeit a damn powerful one, with respect to the actual video tapes.

Any drama involving who had what tapes, where they were filmed and by whom, and how Jay ended up with them in the end is most likely an interpersonal thing between Jay, Alex, and maybe Jessica (depending on how much she is actually involved in the grand scheme).

Regarding Jessica being recruited by the Operator, I don't think we've seen enough into her character to be able to say anything other than that she was Amy's roommate for a time, and she and Jay somehow ended up in The Hotel after meeting up (the details of which haven't even been revealed yet).

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It seems to be that Jessica is just a unfortunate observer who was sucked in, much like Jay. Although I am beginning to wonder more about Alex's motives, and why he's been getting so many people involved...

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I really doubt "the twins" refers to anyone other than Tim and Hoody. This video's shot of Hoody is clearly supposed to remind us of Entry #45, which was entirely about how Tim and Hoody are working together. If Hoody really does have an X edited onto his hoodie, Masky can easily be O. His big O-shaped mouth might even count as evidence. Razz

I'm reminded of that face with Xes for eyes that appears for a few frames near the beginning of Forecast (a video most likely shot by Hoody). If only Hoody had Xes on his mask instead of that seemingly-arbitrary frowny face...

If it had to refer to someone else, I'd say J and Alex -- the two protagonists of the story who are both film students who started filming themselves after encountering something nasty (Alex started after encountering the Operator while filming Marble Hornets, and J started after encountering Masky while filming an investigation of the filming of Marble Hornets). They may or may not be on the same "side", but they can easily be considered "twins" in a creepy horror story myth kind of way. (Like in the books from the Chzo Mythos. Something like "AND THEN THE TWINS KNEW THE NAME OF THE PRINCE" would have suited that story and MH could be doing something similar with the names (ark, operator).)

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