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Kagehi Kossori
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Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 75 Location: Lake Havasu AZ
Bobeo wrote:
cant all diabetics eat sugar? Just after they do they have to inject themselves with the right amount of insulin?
I know that is the way my friends is.
Not all sugars are created equal. The chemical composition of refined sugar is more difficult for the body to convert to energy, so stays in the blood stream longer, this makes it necessary for the body to increase its rate of regulation of sugar levels in the blood and diabetics cannot properly produce enough natural insulin to provide that regulation. It is the simple difference in the chemical structure of sugars that also makes the sweetner Splenda have 0 carbohydrates, even though it is a sugar and completely identical to 'normal' sugar with respect to the number of carbon and oxygen atoms it has (Think there is some hydrogen in there too right?). It is merely the 'way' those identical number of elements are arranged that determine the bodies reaction to them.
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:18 pm
WhiteGulls
Unfettered
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 331 Location: Portland
I third the Ackbar quote. Now, I'm just waiting for Mel's Death Star II to come online... ;_; This will be a day long remembered... But for what?
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:37 pm
johnny5
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Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 995 Location: Elysian Fields
HitsHerMark wrote:
CoffeeJedi wrote:
for all my fellow Farkers:
"It's a trap!"
And I was worried I'd be the only one going all Admaral Ackbar on the situation.
In other news...
A diabetic who sells honey?
Wiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I don't get the Fark reference, but that is one of my most memorable quotes from ESB.
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:04 am
Stratus
Boot
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 59
For all you ackbar fans...
On that note. I also have a friend who is diabetic, he eats pretty much what he wants when he wants too, just has to check his numbers every now and then. Maybe Mel didn't cause Aunt Margrets coma. What if while searching for ways to capture Dana, she mearly came across Margret, did a deeper search, and found out she is in a coma?
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:36 am
TheHulk
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Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 45
HitsHerMark wrote:
A diabetic who sells honey?
Wiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Hehe. As I learned from Chris Tucker in the movie Friday, it's not always the best idea to "consume" what you sell, anyways.
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:58 am
Motoss
Decorated
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 170 Location: Ohio
I hope that Aunt Margaret isn't really in a coma, and that is why we have never heard from her the whole game...
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:10 am
hurdleguy
Boot
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 46 Location: Fort Collins, CO
So with Dana coming home, for next tuesdays axon session do we ask melissa what she has been up to?
She's obviously come to trust us, I think she wouldn't mind if some of her crew questioned what she needs from Dana or Aunt Margeret, if this whole coma thing is a scam.
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:24 am
nobodyman
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Joined: 25 Jul 2004 Posts: 88 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
Motoss wrote:
I hope that Aunt Margaret isn't really in a coma, and that is why we have never heard from her the whole game...
I think the coma is a relatively new thing, which is what has prompted Dana to come back. The tidbit from the flea indicates that Melissa was getting jiggy with Margaret's insulin intake -- something that she couldn't have done before she was "wide awake and physical".
Besides, It seems unlikely that Dana would take off for HK in the first place if her Aunt was in a coma. How rude would that be?
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:30 am
Kirran Grey
Boot
Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 33
johnny_Nitro wrote:
HitsHerMark wrote:
CoffeeJedi wrote:
for all my fellow Farkers:
"It's a trap!"
And I was worried I'd be the only one going all Admaral Ackbar on the situation.
In other news...
A diabetic who sells honey?
Wiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I don't get the Fark reference, but that is one of my most memorable quotes from ESB.
<Star Wars Geek> actually, the quote was from ROTJ, when they realize that the shield protecting the Death Star is still up. </Star Wars Geek>
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:44 am
rose
...and then Magic happens
Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 4117
I think Aunt Margaret's coma is new, I was assuming that she is in one. That is the reason Dana is coming home.
What I want to know is what happened to bringing Dana in by treating her with kindness?? Or convincing Melissa that Dana is an asset?
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:55 pm
HazMat
Kilroy
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 2 Location: San Antonio, TX
rose wrote:
What I want to know is what happened to bringing Dana in by treating her with kindness?? Or convincing Melissa that Dana is an asset?
Evidently - it failed...
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:04 pm
Astald
Unfettered
Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 747 Location: Just outside of Pittsburgh (Go Steelers!)
Well, we know Dana checks out the site. So it could be the information on contactme.html that is bringing Dana home. Also, it seems to me that Melissa is just searching the network for these words.
seeker wrote:
master-sector > net: !extend
master-sector > net: !scan "Margaret Efendi
master-sector > net: !scan "medical records
master-sector > net: !scan "humulin
master-sector > net: !scan "Reflotron Plus
master-sector > net: !scan "coma
She scanned Margaret Efendi's medical records and found she was taking the drug humulin. Possibly Melissa understands if she uses the Reflotron Plus in a malicious way, Margaret will go into a coma. Again, the seeker is telling us that Melissa was scanning these words, so there may be time to get in contact with SP or PF in order to do something about this. And Dana may just be going to prevent it in person. Sorry if this is old news, just wanted to interject my opinion.
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:57 pm
Darketnal
Boot
Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 26
You know, given the whole spiel on the 404, I think it may not be as it appears. Mellissa seems more interested in shutting down the sleeping princess then in destroying Dana anymore.
Perhaps Margaret's troubles are the natural kind, and Melissa is offering Dana some kind of medtech bribe in return for assistance in dealing with the SP?
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:47 pm
Arana
Unfettered
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 353 Location: shallow grave
HazMat wrote:
rose wrote:
What I want to know is what happened to bringing Dana in by treating her with kindness?? Or convincing Melissa that Dana is an asset?
Evidently - it failed...
Not necessarily. In the "thoughtful suggestions" from the loyal crew she seems interested in the suggeston that she might be able to use Dana in some way to get rid of SP and then states:
Quote:
On the basis of this input, I have formulated a plan and put it into action. With some ingenuity, I will also shortly be in position to neutralize the rogue process for good.
She says that she has a plan for Dana, but says that she will neutralize the SP. Hopefully she will use Dana rather than attempting to eliminate her. We can continue to try to protect Dana (for those of us who choose that allegience).
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:53 pm
jellyfish_green
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Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 144 Location: Inner Colony of Eire
If I were a malicious AI from the future, I'd be messing with the baseline of the Reflotron (apparently it can, but isn't always, hooked up to a PC). That way if the glucose readings are falsely high for a period, either the nurse or Margaret will administer more insulin to counteract this, which will certainly increase the likelihood of if not guarantee a diabetic coma.
BUT from this it's unclear if Melissa is looking to dispose of Dana or is still open to negotiation.
If she wants Dana to prove herself through Rogue Process Removal, I wonder if simply helping the Princess to escape to a spare PC is within the plot of the game? Probably not because that just removes the Princess's ability to affect the plot. Not to mention the AI's are probably bound to each other at some fundamental level.
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:57 am
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