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TheBioGuy
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TheBigFinish wrote:
My thinking is, what if AMY is The Operator?

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Think about it. The Operator shows up and scares away Amy and Alex. Amy disappears, so Alex tracks down Jay to help him find her. Somewhere along the way he starts to suspect that Amy is, in fact, the new The Operator (whether through possession or transformation or whatever). He confronts The Operator to confirm this (after lying to Jay and dropping him off at the hotel) and willingly subjects himself to Slendy sickness in order to try and save her; to find a cure. He "serves" Slendy, but in reality is trying to rid his girlfriend of the entity (all the while dealing with Jay constantly fucking things up). The TTA coalition either is unaware of this or are trying to stop Alex from curing Amy for some unknown reason (maybe so they can learn how to become Operators themselves). In fact, the Ark may simply be the vessel which The Operator inhabits in order to exist. That could also explain why in the first season TTA was all about "you will lead me/us to the Ark" and now they never mention it. Maybe Alex was supposed to be the original ark/vessel, Amy got caught up in the craziness, and now she has uniwttingly taken Alex's place.


With all that said, I still believe that there is only one Operator. This is only a possible theory that I thought sounded intriguing. Still, who knows? In a series about a giant slender faceless creature who lives in the woods and stalks a group of twenty-somethings I guess anything can happen. Very Happy


This is a really intriguing theory! Especially when you consider Brian's total lack of existence in season 1. What if he was the former Operator (at least for a time), and during the course of Jay's investigation, someone found a way to free him, making Amy a viable target?

We should consider the merits of what I now dub "Ghostly Possession Theory."

Also- STOP USING "TO" TO MEAN THE OPERATOR. IT'S OBNOXIOUS.
Just type the 2 freaking words. How hard is that?
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 		How does the new operator decide who to stalk if its like they stalk you until you become it then they are free, how do they decide who to stalk when they become The Operator, is it somebody who is close to you? The only flaw i see in this theory so far is if you have to be close to the person to stalk them as TheOperator, how did Brian take Amy?
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TheBioGuy wrote:


Also- STOP USING "TO" TO MEAN THE OPERATOR. IT'S OBNOXIOUS.
Just type the 2 freaking words. How hard is that?


My apologies. I was merely following the format I've seen others use on this board. Trust me, I have no problem typing the words "The Operator" (just not "Beetlejuice" or "Candyman". At least not multiple times). Very Happy

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(just not "Beetlejuice" or "Candyman". At least not multiple times). Very Happy
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Themagikarpevolution wrote:
How does the new operator decide who to stalk if its like they stalk you until you become it then they are free, how do they decide who to stalk when they become The Operator, is it somebody who is close to you? The only flaw i see in this theory so far is if you have to be close to the person to stalk them as TheOperator, how did Brian take Amy?


How The Operator would theoretically choose its hosts I don't know. Logically, though, I think the pecking order would flow something like this:
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Operator ultimately wants Alex. We don't know why, but he does. He has been marked since childhood (hence the creepy birthday video) and maybe the Operator has been waiting for him to "mature" to a certain age.
Brian becomes The Operator (great idea, TheBioGuy!). This explains his absence. We don't know how or why he was absorbed/used, but he was. Still, The Operator has his sights set on Alex (hence the stalking).
Season 1 ensues. Alex finally escapes somehow and hides the evidence of Operator even existing (the tapes). Jay starts to go through the tapes which reactivates The Operator (think Freddy Kreuger and how people have to KNOW of him and be afraid before he has any power). The closest link Operator has to Alex at this point is Jay, so he starts stalking him. TotheArk, meanwhile, starts working towards scaring Jay to Alex (the ark) so they can find him.
Whether through carelessness or being planted there, Amy finds the camera. Being so close to Alex finally lets The Operator know exactly where he is. He then shows up to "collect" his prize. This is where Amy unwittingly gets sucked in to the mix. Maybe it was because she was the one using the camera at the time. Maybe it was because she was simply "there". For whatever reason, she gets taken instead of Alex. Once Alex realizes this, he sets out to try and fix things. Hell, Amy could even be a sort of bargaining chip - Take her place, or watch her suffer.
Also, I think Alex is so important because whoever The Operator inhabits slowly dies. Brian was the first to go, and now Amy is following suit. Alex may be the one special person who is immune to Slendy-death, thus making him the perfect vessel/ark. The Operator will no longer need to hop from body to body...he will be able to remain in Alex for all time. The Slendy sickness Alex has been exhibiting as of late could be the beginning stages of the transformation...Alex has finally given in. I think the cave is where he actually changes; Jay finds some blood on the floor (either ritualistic or from the potentially violent transformation one goes through to become The Operator), turns around, and low and behold! Alex as The Operator is waiting for him at the mouth of the cave.


Again, this is all wild speculation on my part. I think it COULD work, but I'm not necessarily convinced it is the way things are going. Still, intriguing!

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Randoman96 wrote:
TheBigFinish wrote:
(just not "Beetlejuice" or "Candyman". At least not multiple times). Very Happy
Candlejack. You're a puss


How could I forget about Candlejack! I'm gonna need more rope...

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 		I thought that the noises didn't need to be mentioned and couldn't remember where they were in the video. That being said I don't really care what other people believe, I just don't appreciate the rudeness and people writing my points off with no counterargument.

The idea about the Operator taking over bodies is a pretty outlandish one. What's stopped him from trying to take over Jay? If he wants Alex, why wouldn't he have taken over Alex the countless times he's been in contact?

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Roswell wrote:
I thought that the noises didn't need to be mentioned and couldn't remember where they were in the video. That being said I don't really care what other people believe, I just don't appreciate the rudeness and people writing my points off with no counterargument.

The idea about the Operator taking over bodies is a pretty outlandish one. What's stopped him from trying to take over Jay? If he wants Alex, why wouldn't he have taken over Alex the countless times he's been in contact?


All part of the mystery. Could be that because he is "special", its not as simple as hopping in there. Could be something else entirely. As I've stated, could be all complete BS to begin with! In any event, it gets ya thinking.

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 		For what it's worth, here's my take on the slendy sighting:



The red lines 'behind' him are just to indicate where I think the camera's blurred two frames one into another. I think that he's there, but he's standing sideways, facing down the same path as Jay is walking. This makes sense to me because the Operator has always ultimately been interested in Alex, rather than Jay. Put the two of them in the same area and he has been shown to go after Alex rather than Jay. It could be that he's either simply there to observe Alex, and ignores Jay on the path, or that he's busy focusing on Alex and causing him to head to the tunnel. Either way, the Operator's not facing Jay because he just doesn't find the protagonist as interesting as his old quarry.

My guess at the events happening in this entry are pretty much this:

Jay is stalking Alex and so is oblivious to the fact that he's being followed by someone else. When Jay enters the woods (regardless of teleportation), someone else follows him in after that. The rustle of leaves is from the person following him; it could be that this person does spot the Operator and high tails it (a la #45 where the two masked figures book it all of a sudden and out of nowhere!) while Jay, oblivious, continues deeper into the woods.

The person who hurried out of the woods chucked his hoodie/mask/whatever into his car, thereby transforming himself into a typical every day bystander. He was waiting by his car for Jay to return, to see what would happen. Cue Jay hurrying the fuck out of the forest. Jay takes off... could be that the bystander goes back into the forest. Or not, who knows.

Alternately, the bystander (who I am thinking is probably likely to be one of the masked folk) was following Alex all along, and killing two birds with one stone by remaining a step behind Jay in this entry.

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TheBigFinish wrote:
Themagikarpevolution wrote:
How does the new operator decide who to stalk if its like they stalk you until you become it then they are free, how do they decide who to stalk when they become The Operator, is it somebody who is close to you? The only flaw i see in this theory so far is if you have to be close to the person to stalk them as TheOperator, how did Brian take Amy?


How The Operator would theoretically choose its hosts I don't know. Logically, though, I think the pecking order would flow something like this:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Operator ultimately wants Alex. We don't know why, but he does. He has been marked since childhood (hence the creepy birthday video) and maybe the Operator has been waiting for him to "mature" to a certain age.
Brian becomes The Operator (great idea, TheBioGuy!). This explains his absence. We don't know how or why he was absorbed/used, but he was. Still, The Operator has his sights set on Alex (hence the stalking).
Season 1 ensues. Alex finally escapes somehow and hides the evidence of Operator even existing (the tapes). Jay starts to go through the tapes which reactivates The Operator (think Freddy Kreuger and how people have to KNOW of him and be afraid before he has any power). The closest link Operator has to Alex at this point is Jay, so he starts stalking him. TotheArk, meanwhile, starts working towards scaring Jay to Alex (the ark) so they can find him.
Whether through carelessness or being planted there, Amy finds the camera. Being so close to Alex finally lets The Operator know exactly where he is. He then shows up to "collect" his prize. This is where Amy unwittingly gets sucked in to the mix. Maybe it was because she was the one using the camera at the time. Maybe it was because she was simply "there". For whatever reason, she gets taken instead of Alex. Once Alex realizes this, he sets out to try and fix things. Hell, Amy could even be a sort of bargaining chip - Take her place, or watch her suffer.
Also, I think Alex is so important because whoever The Operator inhabits slowly dies. Brian was the first to go, and now Amy is following suit. Alex may be the one special person who is immune to Slendy-death, thus making him the perfect vessel/ark. The Operator will no longer need to hop from body to body...he will be able to remain in Alex for all time. The Slendy sickness Alex has been exhibiting as of late could be the beginning stages of the transformation...Alex has finally given in. I think the cave is where he actually changes; Jay finds some blood on the floor (either ritualistic or from the potentially violent transformation one goes through to become The Operator), turns around, and low and behold! Alex as The Operator is waiting for him at the mouth of the cave.


Again, this is all wild speculation on my part. I think it COULD work, but I'm not necessarily convinced it is the way things are going. Still, intriguing!


Going by the possessed Alex theory, I think that the events of Entry 29 is J discovering the aftermath of Alex's transformation to The Operator. Also, Entry 44 could be explained as The Operator taking Alex for his 'transformation'. Also, the reason why The Operator scared off the Maskies in Entry 45 is because he's protecting his vessel, or Ark if you will. As for how did J obtain Alex's chestcam and handheld, he might have stolen them from Alex's apartment using the key he grabbed in Entry 46.

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i'm gonna be the only guy who thinks that 29 and 48 took place on different days


I don't think they took place on the same day either. And looking carefully, it appears that Alex is at the OTHER side of the tunnel. Observe. In 29, the tunnel end appears to be a sloped continuation of the pipe, like the end was sliced off diagonally (Hope this makes sense). However, in 48, the end looks like two white brick walls. Plus the foliage is different in each entry, and there are no rocks in 29.

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 		The Operator watching
I kind of like Dray's pic, that The Operator is there, but is facing down the path where Alex is. So he's watching Alex, not Jay. And perhaps as such, that's why we only get very minor distortion, it's his attention, or maybe he is using some power...but not focused at Jay/the camera? No distortion. This would also go along with the original premise that The Operator was messing with/stalking/using powers/whatev on Alex, and Jay was just the friend who didn't know what was going on.
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 		Rowsdower, you have truly saved us (the time we'd spend arguing by providing us screencaps) and saved all the world. Kudos!

And mjdolorico, that is a very plausible theory. While I don't think the whole "Operator is possessing people to get to Alex" theory is necessarily the route Troy and Joseph are taking, I do like that it is possible (and who knows? Maybe we're more on the money than I think).

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 		Aha Dray even with 2 marblehornet related upload's in one day your still on the ball!

I see the Operator aswell but not very many other's do Sad Even with all the hints that are there- Sound distortion, Dray's new pic. (not confirmed but TTA/member of masked brigade hightailing it out of there once he/her/they saw The Operator), but if it isn't The Operator I'm fine with that as Troy did a very good job in making it seem like he was there.

And if Alex is immune to Slender dieing what, is that why we haven't seen any symptoms of slendersickness on him, after being so close to the Operator :S

I really hope everything gets explained.....Fast
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Themagikarpevolution wrote:
Aha Dray even with 2 marblehornet related upload's in one day your still on the ball!

I see the Operator aswell but not very many other's do
, even with all the hints that are there, but if it isn't The Operator I'm fine with that as Troy did a very good job in making it seem like he was there.

ANd if Alex is immune to Slender dieing what, is that why we haven't seen any symptoms of slendersickness on him, after being so close to the Operator :S

I really hope everything gets explained.....Fast


We have seen Alex suffer from Slendy Sickness (the entry right after he confronts The Operator head on in the woods). He did get over it pretty quickly, though, and now doesn't seem to be suffering at all. In fact, he almost seems chipper beneath the facade of being pissed off at Jay (although who could blame him? Jay is the Milhouse to Alex's Bart).

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