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Zebez
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Ikekudeyg wrote:
Star Kindler wrote:
Zebez wrote:
With the way everyone has been talking about Masky, I can't get the image of him, shirtless on a while horse, coming to rescue Jay, as his hair tosses in the breeze.


So that makes Jay... Princess Peach?


No... you both had it wrong... Its his sideburns blowing in the breeze... and Jay is just Jay... probably confused on what is going on and getting a knife stole from him. Then masky would turn the knife into diamonds.


And he would turn his flashlight into tickets to that thing he wanted to go see

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sweetgums wrote:
electricphantom wrote:
I honestly want to see a continuation of entry 29, but through the cut of 38: Jay looks up to see dear Operator blocking his exit on one side. Turning to escape from whence he came, Jay then realizes Alex has arrived, blocking his only other way out instead. Our poor protagonist is effectively trapped-

- but still has to get out alive.

I'd love to see what clever twist Troy and Joseph would conjure up.



I'd also like to see Jay pit into a physical fight where running is not an option.

Jay having to kill Alex to get away from TO? Would be a good twist but not very believable, cause unless Jay has a gun on him he can't kill Alex fast enough to outrun TO, who's just behind him.


Masky and Hoody show up. Masky and Jay make it out alive, but Hoody, in an act of sacrifice, actually attacks TO and is killed. TO gets close enough to Jay to scramble his brain, though, accounting for Jay's seven month gap. Perhaps Jay really does know too much. Maybe, if Jay can put the puzzle pieces together, he has enough knowledge (and sanity, unlike, perhaps, Masky) to actually stop TO.

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Yuki
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Axebeard wrote:

Alex whispered "Stop following me, I know you're there." He whispered it when walking through the woods, when a light amount of static came up (I want to say around 1:15). I think he knew the operator was following him and was talking to him, and actually tried to attack him.


Considering the Operator shows up and seemingly takes away the body, I think it's practically outright confirmed that Alex is not against the Operator. The whispering seemed less directed, to me, at anyone and more indicative of some form of paranoia/insanity.

BranRainey wrote:
My main thought when he was killing that guy was, why didn't he kill J when he saw that J followed him to the tunnel? It'll be really silly if Alex is just super unathletic and can't catch the least coordinated person alive (if J's sneaking skills and ability to escape Rosswood in #42 is any indication). Alex must either genuinely like J or J must tie into a later plot point somehow.


It didn't look like Alex saw Jay this time around. He turned and Jay hid.

Ofoosy wrote:
Look at the right side of the tunnel at 3:34 you can see the operator twitching

I would post a picture if I knew how to[/img]


I thought that at first too, but it's a plant.

Ryudragon wrote:
Did Alex kill that guy by choking him or by knocking his head on the floor until he passes out? I just find it strange that he doesn't try to move.


Looks to me like he chokes him until he passes out, then finishes the job with the rock.

In addition, I think the ruddy water in the earlier entry is either contaminated with more blood, or with rust.

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So, first post for a long time lurker! Like, years and years of lurking.

I personally love the idea of The Operator being literal to his name, and taking control of people's bodies whilst making them do things against their will. Alex trying to warn someone to "not follow him" during this entry in a whisper does make a really good point for this argument. Alex's body is being controlled and a hushed whisper is all he can manage to let out while The Operator guides his body to the tunnel.

Now for my expansion to the theory:

The Operator, for reasons still beyond my understanding, has his (lack of eyes) set on Alex's body. If enttry 37 is indication of anything, he's had his eyes set on Alex's body for at least over a decade. Before he can actually take control of it though, Alex has to be broken (TTA's reference to Alex being "broken" comes to mind). He has to submit his body on his own will.

I believe the reason he finally does so is the taking of Amy. The Operator proposes a negotiation. Amy's life for Alex's body. Alex, after much debate, agrees. Entry 43 is the confirmation of the deal, Entry 44 is the beginning of the transformation of Operator-possession. The vomiting of the blood and the such are all a part of this. The full process of taking Alex's body is incomplete as of 49.

Now, to go on from there, I believe that totheark/the maskies believes that the only way to kill The Operator is while he's completely inhabiting someone's body (or "ark"). I also believe that Tim (and perhaps other MH crew) was once an ark to the Operator, but was able to somehow rid himself of The Operator. The reason why he can teleport and exhibits slendersickness are residual effects of being inhabited by it. I also believe that TiMasky is only one portion of totheark, and the rest are composed of other members of the Marble Hornets crew (while most people are in the Brian camp, I am personally a fan of Seth being Hoody, considering his knowledge of camera and film).

The goal of totheark is to rid the world of The Operator, by killing it while it inhabits a vessel, no matter who it is. This explains Tim's attack on Alex in 35, and again in 45. Tim's mask is the only thing protecting him from being inhabited by The Operator, which explains the scream he lets out whenever it's removed. This also explains why he and Hoody bolt in 45 after seeing The Operator and not attempting to finish off Alex: there's no reason to considering Alex isn't inhabited and The Operator would probably just finish them off later anyways. The Operator's goals are selfish; he is only protecting his cattle.

Just my personal theory though, if you took the time to read it, jawsome. If not, a TL;DR is okay too.

EDIT: I forgot to mention in the original post, but I wanted to tack this little nug on too. I also think that whenever Tim shows back up in 33, it might be because Alex is dead after the 7 month period. Therefore, The Operator attempts to latch onto the next closest vessel: Jay. Tim/tta believes enough time has passed for The Operator to finish possessing the next vessel, and Tim teleports Jessica away. He next tries to kill Jay with his mask on preventing The Operator to have anyone to possibly latch onto next.

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Ikekudeyg
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The Percolator wrote:
If enttry 37 is indication of anything, he's had his eyes set on Alex's body for at least over a decade.


So he only wants Alex for his body... The Operator is such a jerk ¬.¬

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Sleight
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The Percolator wrote:
So, first post for a long time lurker! Like, years and years of lurking.

I personally love the idea of The Operator being literal to his name, and taking control of people's bodies whilst making them do things against their will. Alex trying to warn someone to "not follow him" during this entry in a whisper does make a really good point for this argument. Alex's body is being controlled and a hushed whisper is all he can manage to let out while The Operator guides his body to the tunnel.

Now for my expansion to the theory:

The Operator, for reasons still beyond my understanding, has his (lack of eyes) set on Alex's body. If enttry 37 is indication of anything, he's had his eyes set on Alex's body for at least over a decade. Before he can actually take control of it though, Alex has to be broken (TTA's reference to Alex being "broken" comes to mind). He has to submit his body on his own will.

I believe the reason he finally does so is the taking of Amy. The Operator proposes a negotiation. Amy's life for Alex's body. Alex, after much debate, agrees. Entry 43 is the confirmation of the deal, Entry 44 is the beginning of the transformation of Operator-possession. The vomiting of the blood and the such are all a part of this. The full process of taking Alex's body is incomplete as of 49.


Now, to go on from there, I believe that totheark/the maskies believes that the only way to kill The Operator is while he's completely inhabiting someone's body (or "ark"). I also believe that Tim (and perhaps other MH crew) was once an ark to the Operator, but was able to somehow rid himself of The Operator. The reason why he can teleport and exhibits slendersickness are residual effects of being inhabited by it. I also believe that TiMasky is only one portion of totheark, and the rest are composed of other members of the Marble Hornets crew (while most people are in the Brian camp, I am personally a fan of Seth being Hoody, considering his knowledge of camera and film).

The goal of totheark is to rid the world of The Operator, by killing it while it inhabits a vessel, no matter who it is. This explains Tim's attack on Alex in 35, and again in 45. Tim's mask is the only thing protecting him from being inhabited by The Operator, which explains the scream he lets out whenever it's removed. This also explains why he and Hoody bolt in 45 after seeing The Operator and not attempting to finish off Alex: there's no reason to considering Alex isn't inhabited and The Operator would probably just finish them off later anyways. The Operator's goals are selfish; he is only protecting his cattle.

Just my personal theory though, if you took the time to read it, jawsome. If not, a TL;DR is okay too.

EDIT: I forgot to mention in the original post, but I wanted to tack this little nug on too. I also think that whenever Tim shows back up in 33, it might be because Alex is dead after the 7 month period. Therefore, The Operator attempts to latch onto the next closest vessel: Jay. Tim/tta believes enough time has passed for The Operator to finish possessing the next vessel, and Tim teleports Jessica away. He next tries to kill Jay with his mask on preventing The Operator to have anyone to possibly latch onto next.


Love this!

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GrizzNKev
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The Percolator wrote:
So, first post for a long time lurker! Like, years and years of lurking.

I personally love the idea of The Operator being literal to his name, and taking control of people's bodies whilst making them do things against their will. Alex trying to warn someone to "not follow him" during this entry in a whisper does make a really good point for this argument. Alex's body is being controlled and a hushed whisper is all he can manage to let out while The Operator guides his body to the tunnel.

Now for my expansion to the theory:

The Operator, for reasons still beyond my understanding, has his (lack of eyes) set on Alex's body. If enttry 37 is indication of anything, he's had his eyes set on Alex's body for at least over a decade. Before he can actually take control of it though, Alex has to be broken (TTA's reference to Alex being "broken" comes to mind). He has to submit his body on his own will.

I believe the reason he finally does so is the taking of Amy. The Operator proposes a negotiation. Amy's life for Alex's body. Alex, after much debate, agrees. Entry 43 is the confirmation of the deal, Entry 44 is the beginning of the transformation of Operator-possession. The vomiting of the blood and the such are all a part of this. The full process of taking Alex's body is incomplete as of 49.

Now, to go on from there, I believe that totheark/the maskies believes that the only way to kill The Operator is while he's completely inhabiting someone's body (or "ark"). I also believe that Tim (and perhaps other MH crew) was once an ark to the Operator, but was able to somehow rid himself of The Operator. The reason why he can teleport and exhibits slendersickness are residual effects of being inhabited by it. I also believe that TiMasky is only one portion of totheark, and the rest are composed of other members of the Marble Hornets crew (while most people are in the Brian camp, I am personally a fan of Seth being Hoody, considering his knowledge of camera and film).

The goal of totheark is to rid the world of The Operator, by killing it while it inhabits a vessel, no matter who it is. This explains Tim's attack on Alex in 35, and again in 45. Tim's mask is the only thing protecting him from being inhabited by The Operator, which explains the scream he lets out whenever it's removed. This also explains why he and Hoody bolt in 45 after seeing The Operator and not attempting to finish off Alex: there's no reason to considering Alex isn't inhabited and The Operator would probably just finish them off later anyways. The Operator's goals are selfish; he is only protecting his cattle.

Just my personal theory though, if you took the time to read it, jawsome. If not, a TL;DR is okay too.

EDIT: I forgot to mention in the original post, but I wanted to tack this little nug on too. I also think that whenever Tim shows back up in 33, it might be because Alex is dead after the 7 month period. Therefore, The Operator attempts to latch onto the next closest vessel: Jay. Tim/tta believes enough time has passed for The Operator to finish possessing the next vessel, and Tim teleports Jessica away. He next tries to kill Jay with his mask on preventing The Operator to have anyone to possibly latch onto next.


I've been watching MH since the beginning, and this is the most incredible explanation of this I've ever seen. Fantastic job.

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awakeasaurusrex
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MarbleArk wrote:
Did Alex think he was J?
"I told you not to follow me!" ...

To be fair to Alex, masked creepers apparently trying to kill you in the middle of the night will have a way of making you lash out at anyone who seems to be acting suspiciously around you. He might have realised that the guy wasn't Jay but assumed he was one of the Mask Patrol.

Still, fact that he stone cold killed the guy just like that - after already knocking him out so he wasn't even a threat - yeah, Alex is gone.

cochinosanchez wrote:
the shirt is left behind though, as seen in entry #29.

The Operator already has enough white shirts, it seems.

Re: Entry 38: When we heard Alex's anecdote about execution of criminals, we all seemed to assume it was suggesting an origin story for the Operator. What if instead - without Jay or us realising it - Alex was explaining why he was bringing Jay to a particular place to kill him? Alex might be entertaining melodramatic notions of "executing" Jay for his real or imagined crimes against Alex.

Re: Sidenote: I agree with TTA now, this really is the best part. Jay's done nothing but make everything worse? Sure, Alex, and murdering innocent strangers clearly scared the Operator away.

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Atgibs
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Want to get my reply in here before I re-watch.

I audibly gasped twice during this entry.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
When Alex brought the rock over his head

and
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
When The Operator showed up.


Just on first watch, a few things caught me as off: "Don't follow me./I TOLD YOU NOT TO FOLLOW ME!" I think the first time, Alex knew Jay was behind him (insert ninja joke here). The second time though, I'm not sure Alex was all... well, Alex. It seemed to me that Alex's sudden rage was as if a secret meeting had been interrupted.

Also, I think this entry lived up to the hype, hopefully this isn't the last posted for this season though. I still have so many questions!

Please do forgive if I've posted about something we've already answered, but in 2 hours, the thread is 19 pages long, and I've not yet read though them all.

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The Percolator wrote:
A pretty damn good theory


Yeah sorry to cut out your theory in the post, its good but I don't want to clog up the page with it. I must say its pretty good, probably the best Marble Hornets theory I've seen. The only problem I have with it is why would The Operator want to inhabit a human body? I can understand him want to control one but stuffing his mind instead of a meatbag doesn't seem to have any advantages, only disadvantages.

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Karloff Vandergriff wrote:
The Percolator wrote:
A pretty damn good theory


Yeah sorry to cut out your theory in the post, its good but I don't want to clog up the page with it. I must say its pretty good, probably the best Marble Hornets theory I've seen. The only problem I have with it is why would The Operator want to inhabit a human body? I can understand him want to control one but stuffing his mind instead of a meatbag doesn't seem to have any advantages, only disadvantages.


A disguise. To walk among his food / play things unnoticed.

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Maybe Slendy-O can't kill people directly?

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Karloff Vandergriff wrote:
The Percolator wrote:
A pretty damn good theory


Yeah sorry to cut out your theory in the post, its good but I don't want to clog up the page with it. I must say its pretty good, probably the best Marble Hornets theory I've seen. The only problem I have with it is why would The Operator want to inhabit a human body? I can understand him want to control one but stuffing his mind instead of a meatbag doesn't seem to have any advantages, only disadvantages.


Perhaps TO can't exist in this world indefinitely without having a human body to "latch" onto. He needs some sort of Material Anchor to keep himself from just fading away.

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Ikekudeyg wrote:
So he only wants Alex for his body... The Operator is such a jerk ¬.¬


Yeah, what a playboy right? Smile

Sleight wrote:
Love this!


GrizzNKev wrote:
I've been watching MH since the beginning, and this is the most incredible explanation of this I've ever seen. Fantastic job.


Thank you so much, I really do appreciate the positive feedback!

Karloff Vandergriff wrote:
Yeah sorry to cut out your theory in the post, its good but I don't want to clog up the page with it. I must say its pretty good, probably the best Marble Hornets theory I've seen. The only problem I have with it is why would The Operator want to inhabit a human body? I can understand him want to control one but stuffing his mind instead of a meatbag doesn't seem to have any advantages only disadvantages.


Ikekudeyg wrote:
A disguise. To walk among his food / play things unnoticed.


You're fine, and thank you for the compliment! I personally love Ikekudeyg's response and I definitely think that's one of the possibilities. If my theory is anywhere in the ball park and Tim was able to keep residue slenderpowers then OperAlex definitely would be able too right?

I thought about it a good bit before posting the theory, but didn't want to turn into a clusterfuck with the initial proposition. You know all The Twins business that's been going around because of Classified?

Well the initial thoughts for myself, and I think many other people too, were either Alex/Jay or Masky/Hoody. The release of Sidenote came out, and then Alex/Hoody (and even Alex/Masky) was thought about. I think another possibility however lies in Alex/The Operator. It's fine to take it in a metaphorical sense, and that The Operator is currently like a shadow to Alex.

But just say you make it literal. I know it's really out there (not to mention cliche), but what if The Operator is the deceased twin of Alex that has pushed himself into existence through sheer will? He models himself after the people that attend the funeral for a stillborn child.

Or, while I've never watched everymanHYBRID (I'm not sure if that's even stylized correctly), save for a few clips, I understand something similar is happening with the main cast and characters from that series' past having the same names. What if Alex is something of a descendant or reincarnation to The Operator?

Completely out there, I know, but I'm on east side and I can't think of too much more plausible at 4 am. Smile

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Ikekudeyg wrote:
Karloff Vandergriff wrote:
The Percolator wrote:
A pretty damn good theory


Yeah sorry to cut out your theory in the post, its good but I don't want to clog up the page with it. I must say its pretty good, probably the best Marble Hornets theory I've seen. The only problem I have with it is why would The Operator want to inhabit a human body? I can understand him want to control one but stuffing his mind instead of a meatbag doesn't seem to have any advantages, only disadvantages.


A disguise. To walk among his food / play things unnoticed.

Yeah but I mean why would he even bother with that? I get the feeling that people rarely get escape The Operator so much as he allows them to leave. He can seemingly teleport at will and erase minds, with powers like that he wouldn't need much else in the way of subterfuge. I do admit his motives are alien and unknowable at this point from what we've seen of him so far its very unlikely The Operator would put his essence into squishy and vulnerable fleshy sack for the evulz.

blank_zero wrote:
Perhaps TO can't exist in this world indefinitely without having a human body to "latch" onto. He needs some sort of Material Anchor to keep himself from just fading away.

OK, thats a possibility but how do you explain the three gap where Alex seemingly had no contact with TO?

Don't get me you wrong you guys DO have good ideas, but every theory should be poked repeatedly with the devil's advocate stick. >_>

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