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[VIDEO] Entry #49
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AaronRageRose
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Something bothered me about the distorted sound when The Operator showed up to take the body. For a brief moment, when the distortion flickers, it sounds almost like screaming. Then audio as it persists kind of threw me to think "Oh, it's just distortion", but then I wondered after reading some theories on the page here...

If Alex really is being controlled by the Operator, maybe when the Operator 'appears' like he does, he can't directly control Alex (which might explain his sudden backing up against the wall when he notices the Operator with Jay outside his home - he didn't want it to see him to begin to take him over).

That being said - the length of the sound during the Operator's appearance renders this highly unlikely, but imagine for a moment that the distorted sound is actually Alex screaming after what had just happened. Once the Operator does...whatever he does, he resumes his control of Alex.

Not really meant as a theory, but some...disturbing thoughts nonetheless. The Operator isn't so much in full control of Alex - more like he's in the driver's seat and Alex is along for the ride.

Edit: The way Alex looks at the chest cam after he picks it up doesn't seem like him either. It's more like he's looking at it like "Oh, I see."

...actually...upon closer inspection - Alex's eyes when looking at the chest cam look closed. Not blinking - closed the entire time.

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I am in agreement with the "Alex in noentry" crowd.

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PerfectStorm
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i don't know if anyone has ever mentioned this previously, but it doesn't seem like it. people seem to be ignoring that the events of entry 38 has yet to happen in the chronological order of the tapes.

as of now, it's been a matter of fining where it fits in. but at the end of entry 49, we have a crazy Alex meeting up with Jay in Rosewood park. in entry 38, we have a crazy Alex with Jay in the woods presumably at Rosewood park. coincidence?

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Camero
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PerfectStorm wrote:
i don't know if anyone has ever mentioned this previously, but it doesn't seem like it. people seem to be ignoring that the events of entry 38 has yet to happen in the chronological order of the tapes.

as of now, it's been a matter of fining where it fits in. but at the end of entry 49, we have a crazy Alex meeting up with Jay in Rosewood park. in entry 38, we have a crazy Alex with Jay in the woods presumably at Rosewood park. coincidence?


Yeah, from the start most people seemed to think that the meeting mentioned at the end of this entry is the one we see in entry 38. However, with some people suggesting that #29's figure is Alex instead of the operator, as well as the fact that we have wet blood on the stone, this gets a bit more complicated.

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Small curiosity: Alex doesn't have his glasses on during #38, and they didn't get smashed in #49.

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Apparently, Alex is going to that same tunnel, and killing people (you could see blood before in that other entry, I forget which) and for whatever reason, getting slenderman on camera after he kills them.

NOTE: I just got in this thread, and watched it.

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AaronRageRose
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Oddity with sound I noticed...

Around 3:29 when the distortion stops, just before Alex returns with the rock...you hear a faint 'zipping' noise. Then, the heavy thunk of the rock.

I know some people threw the idea of him having the rock in that bag out as a joke (or maybe some were serious), but...does anyone else -honestly- hear it or am I just pickin' up some random sounds?

Sidenote: I laugh every time the distortion hits when The Operator takes the body, because my cat seriously freaks out and hisses and goes batshit.

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Alright, after watching this it's time for my theories.

Soon, in real time, ToTheArk is going to find Jay, and afterwards we're going to have the break before Season 3. I think ToTheArk is frustrated at Jay for not figuring something out (Memories), and is being forced to step in to help move things along.

In entry 49, Alex doesn't do anything when he looks behind him and sees Jay hiding behind the tree, but he yells at and kills Bruce. Here's my theory:
When he sees Jay, he's in his right mind. Jay leaves, Alex sits there for fifteen minutes more. Somewhere during this time he is either possessed or something similar happens. When Bruce asks him if he's ok, he lashes out viciously. He yells, "I TOLD YOU NOT TO FOLLOW ME". I think he only yelled that because it was the last thought on his mind from when he saw Jay, Alex's last thought before entering the trance. Looking back at the video, Alex looks directly at Bruce before yelling at him, so he knew it wasn't Jay or somebody similar. I don't think Alex knew Bruce beforehand due to the way Bruce acts.




SPECULATION TIME
1. It's the operator at the end of the tunnel in 29, and Jay is the cameraman. I think the next entry is not going to be real time, but Jay is going to go to the tunnel and happen across the bloody rock. I'm still convinced that the "pools of blood" everybody's seeing in entry 29 is rusty rain water from the pipe. I see this a lot where I live and old drainage pipes often leave a lot of red rust in the water. Why the rock is in a different place and why Bruce's (white) shirt is there in entry 29 is up in the air, maybe the operator brought the shirt back and rearranged the rock to be more feng shui.

After Jay sees the operator at the end of the tunnel, I, like many others, think that he's also going to be confronted by Alex. At this point I believe that ToTheArk (both Masky and Hoody) are going to step in and possibly kill Alex. We havent' seen Alex in real time yet, and I believe him to be dead.

2. I believe Tim and possibly Hoody have memory wiping and teleportation powers. In entry #19, we see Tim somehow get into Jay's room and afterwards Jay disappears from bed and then shows back up and goes to bed. I think that ToTheArk, after killing/doing something with Alex, are going to take both Jay and Jessica, get them together, and get them the connecting hotel rooms with the hopes that they can do something about the Operator.

3. In entry #32, Jessica talks about her nightmares about being followed/watched by something. Jay tells her to pack and walks to his computer to upload the video, and there's a visual tear right near the end of the footage. I think that the Operator took Jessica, and she's his newest puppet/target. After Jay starts to open the safe to get the hard drive and tapes, Masky appears from Jay's room and attacks him. I believe that Totheark didn't want Jay to know what happened so he'd focus on finding Jessica, but now that he has the tapes they've left him alone aside from posting videos on youtube telling him he's done nothing and that they're going to find him.

4. Amy's dead and has been dead, but Alex doesn't know it. After escaping from the operator in entry 26, Alex may have killed her due to an operator-induced trance. I haven't thought about Amy enough to really think of why Alex lied to Jessica about finding Amy, but perhaps it was so she didn't get involved.

Long post, but this is what I've gathered after watching the last few entries. I have another thing I want to bring up but I'll do it in a separate post after I get everything figured out, something nobody's brought up about entry 49 that I noticed.

EDIT: Also if I'm getting some facts wrong or if you see a problem with my theories please tell me. I'm not one to fly off the handle if somebody tells me I've got something wrong.

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Masky
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Can someone give me a link to download this entry? Every video converter website is giving me "Running Java" limbo.

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GameGodOfAll
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Finally read everything.

Alright so the next entry we can expect a few things:

-Jay goes with Alex (possibly 3Cool
-Alex attacks Jay trying to kill him
-Jay fights back and stops/kills Alex
-The Masks interfere maybe taking out Alex
-The Operator comes

Just something.

Or Jay doesn't meet with Alex at all and noentry is Jay checking the tunnel out by himself.

But then how did he get the chest cam?

Damn. Somehow Jay has to get the chest cam before the season ends. He woke up with it.

I think someone said it, but noentry could have just been Alex filming. I remember that it is well documented that the Operator has never stalked Jay, only Alex. We thought that was the first time (X) stalked him. If it was Alex than we can dismiss that.

I think the next entry might be the last. Tough call. Really wish Jay would tweet or something. Something is going to happen to Alex I think.

Also what the hell is it with Alex? Is that his answer to every problem? Couldn't get a pointy stick or something instead.

Maybe he can pull off some wrestling moves or something next time. I wonder who his favorite wrestler is anyway...



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Camero
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Ok, here are what I believe to be the most likely possibilities for both the order of the tapes, and the identity of the figure in 29.

1)#29's figure is Alex, with 29, not 38, being the next day's meeting.
At the end of this entry, Alex asks Jay to meet him the following day. If the 29 figure is Alex, not Operator, then this suggests that the meeting must have been entry 29. Entry 38, then, occurs at some other time.

If this theory is true, it means that Alex has certainly committed another murder by this time, using the rock. It seems unlikely that the blood would still be wet from Bruce's murder a day later.

Evidence:
Pro:
-Footage from 49 shows Alex standing over Bruce in a similar fashion that the figure in 29. Crucially, we see that, if the camera is far enough into the tunnel, Alex appears to take up the height of the entire tunnel(his figure covers the opening) despite him not actually being that tall. Thus 29's figure need not be as tall as the tunnel.
-There's no indication that the Operator left Bruce's shirt behind when teleporting him, and we don't see the shirt come off at any point. Yet, a bloodstained shirt is found in 29. This would be consistent with a second murder.

Cons:
-The encounter in 29 bears all the signs of an operator encounter. Strange proportions, huge amount of distortion. Although Alex has been causing some distortion in recent entries, he has never caused this much distortion, particularly in audio. Significantly, this was assumed to be an Operator encounter until this entry--29's figure LOOKS more like Operator than Alex, so we have to assume that things like super long arms are caused by distortions.

2) Entry 38 is the meeting, 29 occurs only shortly after 49.

It's not in dispute that Jay doesn't witness Bruce's murder--Jay shows us the footage from his and Alex's cameras at the same time, and Jay runs before this. This theory suggests that Jay returns to the scene soon enough after the murder that the blood is still wet. There, he encounters the Operator. Jay meets Alex in the woods the next day, in 38.

Pros:
-Jay was following Alex in 49, but fled before gaining any useful information. It's likely that he'd want to return to see if he could find out what Alex did there.
-The fact that Jay and Alex barely speak while walking in 38, and Alex's unusual behaviour, suggest that 38 occurred after the falling out between the two.
-Bruce is wearing a white shirt, and a bloodstained white shirt is found in 29.

Cons:
-As mentioned, Bruce's shirt is the only article of clothing found there, and we never see any indication that Bruce's clothes are left behind in 49. This suggests that the shirt maybe belongs to someone else.
-Alex is not wearing his glasses in 38, yet is clearly seen picking them up after the murder of Bruce.
-While walking in 38, Jay asks Alex if he wants him to hold the camera. This suggests that they are sharing a camera, which seems to suggest that the event occurs before the falling out between the two.

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I don't mean to be rude, but guys... That's not Alex at the end of the tunnel in NoEntry. We see hisarms go down to about his waist in 49. The figure in NoEntry has arms reaching down to its KNEES. It's TO.

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Axebeard wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but guys... That's not Alex at the end of the tunnel in NoEntry. We see hisarms go down to about his waist in 49. The figure in NoEntry has arms reaching down to its KNEES. It's TO.


Exactly.

God damn it, fucking arguments.

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Camero
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Axebeard wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but guys... That's not Alex at the end of the tunnel in NoEntry. We see hisarms go down to about his waist in 49. The figure in NoEntry has arms reaching down to its KNEES. It's TO.


I mentioned as much in my post, but again with all the distortion it is at least plausible that the distortion makes the arms seem longer than they really are/were. I'm 90% sure it's the Operator though, mostly because of the huge amount of distortion.

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Camero wrote:
Axebeard wrote:
I don't mean to be rude, but guys... That's not Alex at the end of the tunnel in NoEntry. We see hisarms go down to about his waist in 49. The figure in NoEntry has arms reaching down to its KNEES. It's TO.


I mentioned as much in my post, but again with all the distortion it is at least plausible that the distortion makes the arms seem longer than they really are/were. I'm 90% sure it's the Operator though, mostly because of the huge amount of distortion.


I really don't think distortion would do that. Look at the head tilt and the arms. It has to be the TO. If it's Alex, he's SUPER slenderpossessed to the point where his body has actually been modified. All this, to me, seems much less likely than the operator showing up and causing some camera distortion like he always does.

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