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General fear mythos information here and here. This text only blog presents a cult devoted to one of the Fears (the Blind Man specifically) who research these beings and conduct weird experiments involving them. It also links to other blogs as references when it posts about specific Fears. I've even encountered two that created brand new Fears here and here, although while the general mythos seems as much public domain as Slenderman is I wouldn't use the Intrusion or Smiley without permission from their creators anymore than I would use HABIT without permission from the EMH crew.

Edit: Another good resource.

Edit 2: A good resource for various blogs. I haven't checked out all (or probably most) of these and some could be vlogs and I just don't know it (I do know of a couple that included audio).

Edit 3 the son of edit: Found a nice post about non-fear characters that appeared in some blogs that are considered open source by their creators! I just suggest this forum as a whole at this point. I'm just tagging this on to edit #3 because dear gods I need to stop making new edits to this poor post, but it turns out Smiley from jeanetteisalive IS open for use.

The individual beings and the mythos as a whole are, in my opinion, waiting for a talented group to make the next Marble Hornets.


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cochinosanchez wrote:
redwulf25_ci wrote:


General fear mythos information here and here. This text only blog presents a cult devoted to one of the Fears (the Blind Man specifically) who research these beings and conduct weird experiments involving them. It also links to other blogs as references when it posts about specific Fears. I've even encountered two that created brand new Fears here and here, although while the general mythos seems as much public domain as Slenderman is I wouldn't use the Intrusion or Smiley without permission from their creators anymore than I would use HABIT without permission from the EMH crew.

Edit: Another good resource.

Edit 2: A good resource for various blogs. I haven't checked out all (or probably most) of these and some could be vlogs and I just don't know it (I do know of a couple that included audio).

Edit 3 the son of edit: Found a nice post about non-fear characters that appeared in some blogs that are considered open source by their creators! I just suggest this forum as a whole at this point. I'm just tagging this on to edit #3 because dear gods I need to stop making new edits to this poor post, but it turns out Smiley from jeanetteisalive IS open for use.

The individual beings and the mythos as a whole are, in my opinion, waiting for a talented group to make the next Marble Hornets.


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If you do anything in the mythos do me a favor and PM me a link. Slenderman stuff is easily found by coming here, most of the Fear blogs I've found by sheer luck.

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But while this is here, I have a question similar to yours: aside from fredsolo's killer robot short film, has anyone out there managed to find a non-Slenderman horror vlog on Youtube filmed in this style? I think there's a lot of potential here beyond the common subject matter. Every time I see it used only for Slenderman stories exclusively, I'm a little disappointed


Haven't seen any vlogs that do Fear Mythos rather than Slendy, but some of them that I think might make the transition well if someone were inspired to include them in a project:

The Rake, we've seen him already in EMH so why not a solo act?

The Wooden Girl, they make marionette costumes so she should be easy to portray.

Archangel, are we sure that wasn't him in Angels Game? He does like to go around in a gas mask.

The Cold Boy, you'd need a decent child actor but it could be done.

The Plague Doctor, we've seen someone dressed like him in TJAProjects, but I don't think it was the Fear Mythos version.

The Dying Man, you'd need a large number of people able to do walk on rolls and only be around for a few episodes if you want him to hop bodies as much as I think he should. Other than that you just need someone good enough with makeup to portray necrosis.

Others I'm either not sure what you'd do with them at all (The Blind Man especially) or how you would portray them on a limited budget (I can't imagine portraying a Nest for the Convocation well without a studio level special effects budget).


One mythos I've considered is Candle Cove. Especially for anyone who's really into building props.
I guess we could point to Unearth Truth as an example of a non-Slenderman vlog that uses Slender-Vlog elements to tell its story. They use a "Jason"-type villain of their own creation. Though it's sort of iffy on quality..

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zbeeblebrox wrote:
redwulf25_ci wrote:
zbeeblebrox wrote:
But while this is here, I have a question similar to yours: aside from fredsolo's killer robot short film, has anyone out there managed to find a non-Slenderman horror vlog on Youtube filmed in this style? I think there's a lot of potential here beyond the common subject matter. Every time I see it used only for Slenderman stories exclusively, I'm a little disappointed


Haven't seen any vlogs that do Fear Mythos rather than Slendy, but some of them that I think might make the transition well if someone were inspired to include them in a project:

The Rake, we've seen him already in EMH so why not a solo act?

The Wooden Girl, they make marionette costumes so she should be easy to portray.

Archangel, are we sure that wasn't him in Angels Game? He does like to go around in a gas mask.

The Cold Boy, you'd need a decent child actor but it could be done.

The Plague Doctor, we've seen someone dressed like him in TJAProjects, but I don't think it was the Fear Mythos version.

The Dying Man, you'd need a large number of people able to do walk on rolls and only be around for a few episodes if you want him to hop bodies as much as I think he should. Other than that you just need someone good enough with makeup to portray necrosis.

Others I'm either not sure what you'd do with them at all (The Blind Man especially) or how you would portray them on a limited budget (I can't imagine portraying a Nest for the Convocation well without a studio level special effects budget).


One mythos I've considered is Candle Cove. Especially for anyone who's really into building props.
I guess we could point to Unearth Truth as an example of a non-Slenderman vlog that uses Slender-Vlog elements to tell its story. They use a "Jason"-type villain of their own creation. Though it's sort of iffy on quality..


That would be awesome if the props could be done well. The only Candle Cove video I've seen that wasn't just static (yes yes you can see them all ha ha) is the Screaming Episode on youtube. Horace Horrible was I suppose passable, but Pirate Percy and Skin Taker didn't look like they were described in the Creepy Pasta. Janice was younger than I had pictured her too. Which brings up a point, to do a Candle Cove video series you would also need a young girl to play Janice.

Oh, and in the Fear Mythos there have been some connection made between Candle Cove and the Wooden Girl. I'm currently in the planning stages of a project that deepens that connection. No video, although I may include audio files if I can figure out how to put a layer of static over an audio recording.

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 		My problem with the fear mythos is that it's too easy to mistake for a slenderman series with guest stars. Slenderman is just too large of a presence (no pun intended) that I would rather see a mythos that outright does not have him, but has a new kind of monster (or even an old KIND of monster in the "new' context of an ARG), than one that has been seen around the internet a lot.

Example- in the failed one that I almost did over the summer, the bulk of the plot was centered around a reinterpretation of the concept of a redcap, and the main villains of the series were a traveling band of fairy folk, though not of the tinkerbelle variety, much more akin to the old, creepy,otherworldly stories.

and the one I'm currently thinking of working on has an entirely different villain...
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TheBioGuy wrote:
My problem with the fear mythos is that it's too easy to mistake for a slenderman series with guest stars. Slenderman is just too large of a presence (no pun intended) that I would rather see a mythos that outright does not have him, but has a new kind of monster (or even an old KIND of monster in the "new' context of an ARG), than one that has been seen around the internet a lot.


Despite the Mythos including him a lot of the works set in it don't use him or he's the one who winds up the guest star. Other focus on the Grand Game, a game of sorts being played between the Fears (presumably fighting for dominance over each other) with us humans as their pieces.

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Example- in the failed one that I almost did over the summer, the bulk of the plot was centered around a reinterpretation of the concept of a redcap, and the main villains of the series were a traveling band of fairy folk, though not of the tinkerbelle variety, much more akin to the old, creepy,otherworldly stories.

and the one I'm currently thinking of working on has an entirely different villain...


I'd definitely like to see this too. What crashed the Redcap one? It sounds like it could have been interesting. I'd also be interested in seeing the medium used for something other than Horror. I think that Urban Fantasy would be a good fit for the blog/vlog format. So would a straight mystery.

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redwulf25_ci wrote:
TheBioGuy wrote:
Example- in the failed one that I almost did over the summer, the bulk of the plot was centered around a reinterpretation of the concept of a redcap, and the main villains of the series were a traveling band of fairy folk, though not of the tinkerbelle variety, much more akin to the old, creepy,otherworldly stories.

and the one I'm currently thinking of working on has an entirely different villain...


I'd definitely like to see this too. What crashed the Redcap one? It sounds like it could have been interesting. I'd also be interested in seeing the medium used for something other than Horror. I think that Urban Fantasy would be a good fit for the blog/vlog format. So would a straight mystery.


The Redcap one got crashed by a busy summer at camp. Initially, we were going to have weekends free to do whatever we wanted, but it turns out that that was more like "weekends free from maintenance projects," and we were busy when we wanted to shoot.

Still, I like the thought of this in horror, and that's what I'm currently working on, but I can see your point regarding different genres. What I'm doing might actually be about halfway between horror and "Urban Fantasy," though I'll admit that it's a term I'm unfamiliar with.

And as for the fate of my redcap story line, my fiancče is currently converting the story to novel format. Though I may try again on it this summer. But don't be watching for it too hard...
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 		I see your point but at this point leaving the already established slender man canon, unless it's done well and makes sense with the canon already made will cause the fan base to shun your vlog.

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TheBioGuy wrote:
redwulf25_ci wrote:
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Example- in the failed one that I almost did over the summer, the bulk of the plot was centered around a reinterpretation of the concept of a redcap, and the main villains of the series were a traveling band of fairy folk, though not of the tinkerbelle variety, much more akin to the old, creepy,otherworldly stories.

and the one I'm currently thinking of working on has an entirely different villain...


I'd definitely like to see this too. What crashed the Redcap one? It sounds like it could have been interesting. I'd also be interested in seeing the medium used for something other than Horror. I think that Urban Fantasy would be a good fit for the blog/vlog format. So would a straight mystery.


The Redcap one got crashed by a busy summer at camp. Initially, we were going to have weekends free to do whatever we wanted, but it turns out that that was more like "weekends free from maintenance projects," and we were busy when we wanted to shoot.

Still, I like the thought of this in horror, and that's what I'm currently working on, but I can see your point regarding different genres. What I'm doing might actually be about halfway between horror and "Urban Fantasy," though I'll admit that it's a term I'm unfamiliar with.


Yeah, your Redcap story would probably fall under "Dark Urban Fantasy" (i.e. Urban Fantasy with some horror elements) Urban Fantasy is basically a Fantasy story set in a large city, most in the modern world. Most of Charles De Lint's books are Urban Fantasy, Jim Butcher's Dresden Files, Neil Gaimen's American Gods in my opinion qualifies, some of Mercedes Lacky's books that are set in the modern day . . .

A good televised example is the Canadian TV show Lost Girl.

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 		Ah, see, none of this is happening even remotely in a large city. The redcap one was set at a summer camp (because that's where I was), and my current one is set in a small college town in the American midwest, again, because of where I am. But if I'm getting this right, Neil Gaiman's "Neverwhere" would qualify, yes? If so, it's a genre that I enjoy, but don't quite connect with, not being a city person myself.
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 		I'm not very keen on the Fear Mythos, because it kind of turns all those paranormal monsters into a goofy 'evil league of evil' sort of thing. But I think it's important - if you're going to do a story in the style of a slenderman vlog - to have it take place in a universe where Slenderman exists. Regardless of whether he shows up or not (hopefully not). Just so that, when you get down to the mechanics of everything, you're now forced by the mythos to avoid doing the things Slenderman is known for, in order to maintain internal consistency.

So that aspect of the Fear Mythos I think is a good thing.

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