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 		Eww...the dreaded triple post Sad

On another note, more puzzles!

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Subject: "Do you not see the path of the wind and the rain?"

Dear daughter of the first man,

As Forest is realising from the past, everyone gets what he deserves... You have served us well, I serve you better. 

You are all looking for an answer, a solution that will help Forest. We the Green wish to provide you this solution, in order to preserve our energy but, like all quests, cannot directly tell you what you seek. 
You, as a race, ultimately obtain your energy from the Sun - via a long process of transformation. The closer you get to your star, the more energy you gain. Alchemists and magicians realised this in their sciences and examined the rocks, the soils and ultimately the things that grow...

[We do not wish to tickle you with the answer's ideas but we vane to see how the contours of the solution can reach you any other way.]

Once you have this first step, you take two more steps, one in each area's language and find what grows there.
Easy as 1,2,3...

[Then all you need to do is 4,5,6 - but that is not what you asked about...]

The Watchman


I'll edit it later when I'm not on an iPod, bit 'I serve' is italicised. Done. Also got an attachment that I didn't notice before, seeing as how I wasn't actually in a position to download it at the time...a rather fun start to the day, though Smile
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 		It sounds like he trying to tell us that our attention got diverted from answering the important question of energy to trying to find a hint that does not exist in the clues he gave---clues which might also have only been trying to say that we should look back at the energy problem and not focus too much on the clues.

EDIT: In terms of energy, he focuses on energy from the Sun (as opposed to for example, other human-synthesized energies). He also makes mentions "ultimately things that grow". The subject of the email also asks "Do you not see the path of the wind and the rain?" which could be referencing nature and natural cycles. Could the answer be referencing to nature and plants, which gain energy from the sun?

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 		I'm glad I seemed to help somehow...I kinda left it a bit open ended, just asking for him to help us find what we're missing, I suppose you could say.

Lystella wrote:
In terms of energy, he focuses on energy from the Sun (as opposed to for example, other human-synthesized energies). He also makes mentions "ultimately things that grow". The subject of the email also asks "Do you not see the path of the wind and the rain?" which could be referencing nature and natural cycles. Could the answer be referencing to nature and plants, which gain energy from the sun?


Lystella, I think you're right about the sun's energy. I do remember him giving us that hint earlier:
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dot to dot spear to star similar to a mystic rose

Like I said then, you connect the dots at the edges of a circle to form the star at the center and the "mystic rose". That seems like he's kinda pointing us at the end result by making a reference to a star, of which our sun is one, yet still saying we need to connect the dots to get there. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but it makes sense to me.

I still get the feeling that we're missing something, though...like that's not all there is to it. I don't know, maybe it's because he specifically called attention to the phrase 'I serve' again. What are everyone else's thoughts on that?
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 		Source for the e-mail Subject line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_the_Last#Last_campaign_and_death

Has anyone tried to connect the images of the countries/areas, shown in the color green, with one another? Perhaps it forms something? What were they anyways, I couldn't figure out all of them.
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You have served us well, I serve you better.

I think it's the PM's way of saying in-game that he's giving us some hints.

(Edit for wording because how I worded it didn't sound right XD)

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 		Oh snap, did we ever tell the Watchman which constellation was formed from that Tyger excerpt? That's definitely connected.

Also, I forgot about 4 5 6... whoops. That could have helped as well.

Okay, the Holy Grail was also known as the Mystic Rose. The star of Bethlehem comes to mind. That's not exactly a star though. Numbers has this:

I see Him, but not now;
I behold Him, but not near;
A Star shall come out of Jacob;
A Scepter shall rise out of Israel,
And batter the brow of Moab,
And destroy all the sons of tumult.

I think it's a stretch. I advise everyone else continue searching.

Going back to that dotted image:


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 		The Holy Grail is believed to have been a mazer(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanteos_Cup), which is the same type of object that is at Oriel College with the text from the image.

Speaking of the image, I was trying to figure out what they were. The second seems to be India, and the third(and last) appears to be focused on the Mediterranean Sea. I can't figure out the first one though. Anyone have an idea?

Watchman wrote:
They all passed immortality almost every day as they sought their disciplines


I am inclined to believe this line refers to the mazer at Oriel.
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 		Wait, what three images?
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punxtr wrote:
Wait, what three images?


The three separate continents on the hidden image in "one last chance".

Also, new email and picture:

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Subject: Art for when you while away the time...

Dear Friends of the Forest
We wish to remind you that your time proceeds, regardless of whether you stand at a gate and look around you - or get distracted by quests of knights past.
We question whether you serve Forest to the best of your capacity though...

In the Mean time, some art to keep you aware.

Enjoy.

The Watchman, releasing the golem for potentially his last few days - IF any can explain why we should...

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 		Apologies for the double post...

Italicized words: look gate i serve

The words on the image are as follows:
Quote:
aHR0cDovL2JpdC5seS9uRHd4U2M=

These are the reflections of the first days;
but when the lapse of time proves the reality of evil,
then the actual bitterness of grief commences.
Yet from whom has not that rude hand rent away some dear connection?


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The quote is from chapter 3 of Frankenstein.

The code is base64 and decodes to http://bit.ly/nDwxSc, which is a countdown timer leading to September 23 at 9:04am

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 		Okay, let's get my thoughts together.

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Man, in thy draughts let reason be thy guide, and not the craving of perverted lust;
So honest nourishment will be supplied, and strife of tongue be trampled in the dust


This was inscribed on a maplewood mazer. People believed one of these (Nanteos Cup) to be the Holy Grail. If you drank from the Holy Grail, you would be granted eternal life. The dots I connected, like a Mystic Rose, form the image I posted a while ago.

THere is also to consider this:

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The stars have not yet thrown their spears to one another yet we note - for one would mention it at least in passing...
Yet you move to the next and the next and the next - rather than seeing the whole. Like one country leading to another...


Which means we should understand the importance of those regions in that image. What immediately comes to mind are the three Eastern Magi: Balthassar, Caspar, Melchior. Are any of those stars? Not sure. But it brought up my previous research about the Star of Bethlehem:

Quote:
According to the Gospel of Matthew, the Magi found Jesus by 'following' a star, which thus traditionally became known as the Star of Bethlehem. Various theories have been presented as to what this phenomenon refers to, since stars do not visibly move and therefore cannot be followed.


Oh yeah, I think I'm on the right track about that image... connect the dots on the newest image: http://punxtr.tumblr.com/post/10297620397/mysticrose
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ddl wrote:
Watchman to punxtr wrote:
'I serve'


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriel_College,_Oxford#Coat_of_arms
Wikipedia wrote:
On the main gate, a painted carving of the badge of the Prince of Wales, a symbol often adopted by members of college. The German motto "Ich dien " means "I serve."


Connection??


And here we go again...he's stressing the same terms, with two new ones:

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look gate i serve


There's something we're still missing about Oriel College. He keeps stressing "I serve", but this time he refers specifically to the gate, which has the carving on it.

Also, awesome job, punxtr! Very Happy
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 		Brainstorming: Okay, so, we have to find this gate. Then enter in the side that bears "I serve", but only after speaking the right language, or password?

Can anyone remember what the three steps were, again?

Gate image (I'm looking...): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Oriel_College_Main_Gate.jpg
Door to the hall (Lantern looks like my image sort of): http://www.pbase.com/mallymal1/image/68483402

Still nothing sure.

OOG: Lol, we're gonna kill this guy! If anyone could please step up to the plate?
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 		In answer to your question, if I recall correctly, this is the only thing we have on the three steps:

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Once you have this first step, you take two more steps, one in each area's language and find what grows there.
Easy as 1,2,3...


Three steps being the three regions?

I think it's fairly certain that you're right about the gate, but I'm going to go way out on a limb here and say that maybe one step is to follow the stars? Did we ever decide which constellation it was?
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 		New email from the Watchman:

"Subject: 5 days and counting..." wrote:
numbers wanted: 4,5,6
numbers not wanted: 88 or 3*

Though 3 steps from three congruent shapes are required...
3 regions will help
follow the three steps not the the three magi...

The Watchman


Some hidden OOG text:
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[OOG - the next week is going to be busy IRL - this, therefore is the large 'nudge' which I'm going to give you rather than respond as the Watchman throughout the week - I may do that as well but unsure due to time constraints...
You have until 5 days time... tick tick tick. Will Forest be saved - up to you....]


Also a Word doc attachment.

=-=-=-=

EDIT: Based on both the document and email, I think we're looking at the constellation Aquila.
Then again the red herring picture must have meant something.


EDIT 2: Going back to the quote with images in the "One Last Chance" document (when quote is not upside down)
  1. The first image is Wales. (see this picture)
  2. The middle image is India.
  3. The third image is the Roman Empire. (see this picture)


EDIT 3:
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Once you have this first step, you take two more steps, one in each area's language and find what grows there.
Easy as 1,2,3...

  • For Wales, this might be the image referring to the motto from Oriel College's gate being the same motto on the herald of the Prince of Wales (see summary on this page).

  • For the Roman Empire, "Aquila" is a Latin word.

EDIT 4: So I guess what's left is to find a connection to India from what isn't solved yet and maybe find something Welsh from the Oriel College related clues.
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