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[Trailhead] Veil Nanoscience Inc.
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Atropanocturna
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Sent the message to Bill about the new picture.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:22 am
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Thermal Boners
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Quote:

[Cory Wester]
I was thinking
That perhaps the thing we're missing most is collecting and organizing all of this information. As more people find out about it, I'm not sure how they're catching up.
It could be useful to get it together so we have more help.
[You]
hmm, it wouldnt be that hard to set up and organize a wiki or something
we'll have to try and password protect it or something
[Cory Wester]
Something like that would really help, I think.
You would, but then you'd have the same issue of people not being up to speed.
But if you want to handle something like that, do whatever you think is neccesary.
[You]
thats a good point
ill put it up to the group. we haev quite a few dedicated people on our team here
[Cory Wester]
I know, I can't help but think you could all put together something useful that new folks could easily digest and get caught up with what's been going on.
We're balancing my safety and the need to spread the word.
ut
But*
after what we found tonight
I'm willing to put my life on the line to save the lives of those seven girls, if they're alive.
It's been three years since Eve went missing, I believe.


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Korinthian
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Huzzah! I knew I wasn't crazy when I suggested the destegging. Good job, Britt!

EDIT: Just got this from Dataserver3:

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When I run over the frightful catalogue of my sins, I cannot believe that I am the same creature whose thoughts were once filled with sublime and transcendent visions of the beauty and the majesty of goodness. But it is even so; the fallen angel becomes a malignant devil. Yet even that enemy of God and man had friends and associates in his desolation; I am alone.


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shylilembrace
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Got that as well, it's from Frankenstein, chapter 24.

Edit: http://www.boutell.com/frankenstein/chapter24c.html <--for the full text.
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Devarin
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I got it as well.

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nichiera
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I got that one as well. So far thats the first email I have recieved from this whole thing. Kinda odd.

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zzaryn
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Devarin wrote:
Was it your typical daemon mail return? Possibly any info encrypted within that could crack the puzzle further?


It looked pretty standard to me.

Quote:
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

westercSPLATpresidioinstitute.net

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try
550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at
550 5.1.1 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6596 n17si5866753anm.95 (state 14).


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zzaryn
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Also got Frankenstein email. Assuming it's using the email address I provided when I signed up to be a test subject.

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Atropanocturna wrote:


EDIT: Spoiler for possible OOG status

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Digging around the Pesidio site and found a weird file in the image directory. Not sure if it's IG or not, but it makes me wonder about the baseball stadium picture in eve.bmp.

http://www.presidioinstitute.net/images/directory.gif


I found that same picture when digging around the site but never posted anything about it because I didnt have time on Friday. Here is what my findings were:

Spoiler, possible OOG:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Looks like they monitor this forum and have taken down the link to the image that you put up. Thankfully I saved that picture to my HDD on Friday because I thought it seemed out of place as well.

Link to picture of directory: http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5959/directory.gif

After some searching around I found where this picture came from. It is a screen cap of this site: http://www.ootpdevfiles.com/ootp/

OOTP seems to stand for "Out of the Park " developments: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/index.php

It seems like a legit site for a Baseball manager sim type game. This might give some insight as to what the interests are of our GM, maybe he manages that site or plays that game OOG? im not really sure but have a feeling its not really related to our game

What are your thoughts?


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Korinthian
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Last second update before I head out to class.

I emailed Theresa last night at the suggestion of Cory, asking her about Veil's affiliation with the Randalls. Well, I just got an email back not too long ago:

Quote:
Myself wrote:
Hi, Theresa,

Hope all has been well at the office these past few days. I'm actually writing because something new has come up regarding Veil. I received an e-mail the other day from a Veil Nanoscience address, containing an image of several newspapers that related to a certain William Thomas Randall, and his missing daughter, Eve Randall.

Now, the whole investigation has been somewhat dead the past few months, based from what I can tell after reading Mr. Randall's blog, but this picture has apparently made its way to several people, causing a commotion.

The email came from dataserver3SPLATveilnanoscience.com - now, I know that's probably out of your department, and more in the IT section of Veil, but I was wondering if you had any information whatsoever regarding the email address, what the dataserver3 might be in relation to the company, what (if any) affiliations or dealings the Randalls have had with Veil Nanoscience Inc. in the past, and why someone would be bringing this up now of all times.

Hope you can help me out with some answers.

Take care,

Damian


Theresa wrote:
Damian,

I'm not aware of any of this. It's actually slightly troubling information, to say the least. What makes it more disturbing is just how closely it resembles the history of Dr. Veil.

- Theresa


Weird. I asked her to elaborate, waiting on a response.

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Tiberius
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had a long conversation with cory yesterday. I'll just post up the important bits, but it looks like you folks already know most of it.
Quote:

[CW]I can't stop thinking about that picture you sent me.
It just doesn't make sense. It can't be a coincidence right?
And an article about a missing girl, coming from the company I work for?
[JE]Yea, it does seem really weird.
maybe someone else in the company is like, they know something they shouldn't and are trying to get the information out
but I've got no idea what this girl has to do with your company
[CW]
But, you think this person is doing the same thing I am?
[JE]
possible, they used the Dataserver3 email account
[CW]
It looks like I have someone I can trust within the company
[JE]
hopefully. but finding out who that is might be tough if he's trying cover his tracks
[CW]
This could be crazy, but
Okay, so I'm trying to cover my tracks but hiding my name in the package, right?
So
there any way that they're hiding their identity in the picture somehow?
I've looked at it, i don't see anything weird, but you guys found me in less than 24 hours.
It wouldn't make sense not to leave some sort of clue
[CW]
Well, here's the thing. Do we know that the sender took the picture? It makes sense that he/she did...
but
dataserver3
DATAserver
I'm in HR, I don't have access to anything
other than the supply closey
closet*
I can take all the paperclips I want, but I can't access DATA
[JE]
It seems like if it was from a Dataserver anyone in say IT for example would have accesses to it
[CE]
You'd think that, yea, definitely
My take is...anyone higher up certainly knows what's going on
And they're behind it, so they wouldn't send out anything
but, someone who DID have access to research, data, whatever
who wasn't supposed to find something
did
I'm grasping out at straws here but it's all I can think of
[JE]
well, IT would have viewable access to a lot of different stuff, they have to fix everything if something breaks
[CW]
That's also true
Plus, I don't know anyone in IT, but...not trying to generalize, but you'd have to assume they're all pretty good with computers and stuff
I hid my name like that because I'm good at Word
I went to school for Neural Engineering and ended up with a 2.7 GPA....That's why I'm in HR
but maybe these guys did something...better?
but maybe these guys did something...better?
Maybe they did something better
Something that the stiff's that run this place wouldn't be able to find
Facebook keeps giving me message errors, sorry.
....it seems that way, but there HAS to be a connection
What i meant before is that, these guys must have done something much better than I did
They want to tell you something, but they don't want anyone finding out, except the people that can help


mostly he just stressed the whole there has to be a connection thing, which I think we started to find with that hidden picture. Also that he thinks there might be someone else in the company trying to get information out.

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Thermal Boners
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@nichiera

I mentioned the same thing a page or so back. I've never played OOTP baseball, but I am familiar with it and knew of its existence prior to this ARG. It is OOG.

@Korinthian

That's weird. How could the history of Dr. Veil mirror Eve's disappearance.

@Tiberius

Well, if you go to Bill's blog and click the picture, the file name is uncode.jpg, but I'm not sure if that's what it was when the initial image was destegged. Either way, we might not be done with these two images based on your convo w. Cory.

Wild and baseless speculation:

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Dr. Veil had a daughter (maybe with Alice Silva, but who knows) who got kidnapped. Veil goes off the rail and starts kidnapping girls and doing experiments on them involving the neural implants, with the eventual goal of recreating his daughter with all of her memories.


Don't worry, it's dumb and it's wrong, but it was fun to think about. I even tied in Frankenstein. I just woke up don't judge me, I'm gonna look at this a few hours from now and just laugh.

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Thermal Boners wrote:
Wild and baseless speculation:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Dr. Veil had a daughter (maybe with Alice Silva, but who knows) who got kidnapped. Veil goes off the rail and starts kidnapping girls and doing experiments on them involving the neural implants, with the eventual goal of recreating his daughter with all of her memories.


Don't worry, it's dumb and it's wrong, but it was fun to think about. I even tied in Frankenstein. I just woke up don't judge me, I'm gonna look at this a few hours from now and just laugh.

I actually don't think it's that bad of an idea. At the very least, it makes more sense WRT the Frankenstein quote than my "The guy who sent the emails is dying" theory.
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Holy crap, I just thought of something! What if DataServer3 is Eve Randall, either turned into wetware, or hooked up into a computer, or something.


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Korinthian
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Masquedman wrote:

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Holy crap, I just thought of something! What if DataServer3 is Eve Randall, either turned into wetware, or hooked up into a computer, or something.


That just gave me a little chub. That'd be incredible.

EDIT: Theresa has not answered me regarding Alec's history and why it's similar - so I thought I'd go to another source and dig further into their history and contact our good friend Alice Silva again. Maybe she'll give me some information.

EDIT 2: Welp, that was a bust. Alice cut me off with a very terse "It's in my best interest to stay out of it." So no go there. C'mon Theresa, where'd you go..

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zzaryn
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@Thermal Boners: That was my thought too.

Something drastic/traumatic had to trigger the jump from working with the Silvas to Veil Nanoscience. (Did the Silvas always work with just malaria, don't think so but can't remember exactly.)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
What if Veil *did* do something to change these girls? What if they were the first test subjects -- and voluntarily? If you completed the application there was a question asking if you could cut off contact with family and friends six months prior. That could be akin to disappearing, especially if a non-disclosure agreement was signed.


Can Cory get access to any records related to company expenses? I'd be curious to see if there are any special allotments/accounts/departments that had a spike or drop in funding.

Or... access to recruiting materials and records.

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