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[100kfireflies]

Tevan told me that he will be working with the Jade Division. Maybe your message was a way of indicating that you won't be hearing from him anymore?

[Tiberius]

wow, the host is being totally douche tacular to new ppl trying to get in, not cool =P

[Tiberius]

*Important Read*
Just to let ppl know, I would not recommend this game, the host Tevan is very unaccommodating to new people trying get in and was very rude in emails on top of it. I was quite shocked especially on how arrogant and insulting he was for no apparent reason. This person continuously breaks the 4th wall and generally has a major attitude problem.
If you're looking for a fun ARG experience, you should probably look elsewhere.

P.S.
Also don't let the name fool you. If you research the IP address you'll find that this site has nothing to do with the official Star Trek or any kind of hidden promotions. It's purely independent.

[inkflamewriter]

Kinda bumping this...not sure how much we'll be using the thread, seeing as how we've been split into two teams.

Tiberius, I would like to says something about the last two posts you made.

First of all, Tevan has been very helpful and an all around nice person to me. He did, however, stress in an email to me (which I actually posted earlier) that they had a few issues with "cheating". I'm by no means naming anyone in particular, seeing as he never said who it was, but he did say that he didn't want people just copying from here. It defeats the purpose of understanding the solution, which is a legitimate point. If you talk to anyone here, especially all those amazing code breakers out there, I'd be willing to bet that they didn't know all that when they first started participating here. One puzzle builds on another...you learn as you go.

The second point is one that many people may not like, but it's true. A part of a truly great ARG is breaking the fourth wall. That's what makes it seem like it's real, like an "alternate reality". Rather unfortunately, many games don't make a huge attempt at this, staying safe with emails and websites. Add to that the fact that he could very well know what a transmedia game is, but not an ARG in particular. Based on the introduction emails I've been getting for Jade, it doesn't seem like everyone there is even on Unfiction. There is no reason why every PM has to know how this forum works, after all. Involving us like that by directly talking about the forum is what helps it stay realistic. That, I consider pretty smart. It can be freaky sometimes, but it actually improves the game...at least to me, it does.

Personally, I'm impressed with how well he responded to my email about people not liking how he talked about the forum, while staying in character. I'm not seeing the problem, Tiberius, it's pretty decent so far.

[Tiberius]

[inkflamewriter]

Alright, I'll respond to this...after that, we need to take this to private messages if you still want to talk about it, seeing as this is not helping the overall game.

And you know, I completely agree, it is about social interaction. I asked him about it when I originally brought up the fact that he mentioned the forum. His answer was pretty clear:

[posse]

I hope it's okay if we move on from this current discussion -- Jade got a puzzle just now called "An Imperial Perfect Square". Did the Obsidion division members get the same puzzle? I'm used to working things out in the forums but I wonder if we're supposed to work on this with our teams.

[inkflamewriter]

As I said in the post, I do want to move on...apologies to all for getting us off track.

In terms of the puzzle, I really couldn't say. I think we're primarily supposed to work in our teams, though.

[LatentMoths]

I haven't received anything for Obsidian division yet other than team member introductions.

[konamouse]

TINAG = the characters in the story do not see themselves in a game, they are "living" in their world and to them it is as real as our world, that they are a part of our world (even though they are fictional characters).
A blend of real world info, mythos, etc makes it all feel so much more real to us as the players.

Sounds like the PM is trying to stay in the TINAG genre. And to explain his/her desire for the participants to demonstrate their own ability for logic and puzzle/problem solving (although that might narrow down the audience). If there is a division of "teams" and then rules for no sharing, that will further limit the audience.

uF is "out of game" and open for all discussion. Teams pitted against eachother in any previous game never worked (and often backfired against the PM). A wonderful immersive experience engages the community in a spirit of cooperation and "where will the next page of this story take us, what will be the result of our answers, our decisions between the two doors, etc". I hope this continues to play out for the fun of it.

[badaim68]

Following on from what konamouse has said, I think it's important that we understand from the members of the divisions whether you want any of us posting contributions to puzzles in this thread? Will this be seen as cheating because we are not officially TINAG?

I don't want to go through the process from the beginning and try and fake completing the answers on my own when I've seen them all on here, but I would be interested in trying to help out the "chosen" players if I can.

Therefore would like to know from members of Jade Division etc....do you still wish us to post thoughts/ideas/hints?

[inkflamewriter]

Here's my take, based on how things have been going...

First, you wouldn't really have to fake solving them. Just explain the solution in your own words and you'd get credit for it. Trust me, I did that for most of the puzzles.

Secondly, I don't know about those not in the divisions, but I do know that once a puzzle has been solved, a member of the division is asked to go to the other division and explain their puzzle and how they did it. I guess it's to help the learning curve, since we can see now that the puzzles build on each other, to an extent.

I don't think it would hurt to have stuff posted here...I mean, the assumption with that would be that we'll be informed of such if it's a problem.

[Thutmose]

[Devarin]

Good catch, Thut. Not certain if anyone mentioned that previously or not, and if not, kudos to you man! Well done!

[Kandybar]

Aha, I just got the moon thing too - playing catch-up, just emailed Tevan yesterday.

Oh, and I just got the pun he sent in my email. Whoops, now I feel like a spazz. (He said they were going to put me in Class J - and I now realize that Saturn is a Class J planet. *facepalm*)