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[Yuki]

[Lucifox]

So I missed the thread in it's prime for the night but here's my little input. TTA has been keeping up on responses lately. I'm not one to think that random items are important but that book has shown up twice and now we got a title. Listen may be the next entry from TTA where he reveals something in his obscure way of directing something from that book. why? Because it's something more important to alex than just the pages he leaves lying around. Alex has been scrawling on pages all these random words on blank white paper for a while, another thing TTA has done before (I'm against the alex is TTA theory). So perhaps (since this was in the past) TTA got a hold of that book and will give some hints as to what's in it. what's in the deep psychological aspects of Alex's mind that he feels the need to record it in a diary (if it is a diary) and not reveal it. I know this is a lot of speculation from such a small thing but I think we may be overlooking it a little too much.

As for Tim/Masky being able to run... Well there's a few things to make it seem like he was actually successfully running. 1. We all know that being around Slendy has some adverse affects on health, i.e. Jay running short of breath quickly. 2. Masky was leaning on the tree and had a was putting weight onto his good leg while standing at the tunnel. 3. Masky knew where he was running to and Jay didn't, hence the falling, which would give him an upper hand at getting away. I enjoy the thought of Masky letting someone else take his place for a while but I doubt it's the truth.

Anyways that's my long spiel of absolutely nothing helpful. thanks for reading if you did and sorry it was so long no matter what.

[Minihil]

Hi guys, first-time poster, long-time lurker here. Just wanted to contribute a little bit, if at all possible, with some thoughts. Some of these things may have been mentioned in previous threads and I perhaps missed them, but I think they still stand for some reevaluating what with the new entry. Long post ahead!

A lot of people pointed out Alex not saying anything to Jay pointing out that he was hearing noises, or that somebody might be following them. This seems a little strange to me. Remember in Entry #49, when he was whispering things like "don't follow me" and "I know you're there" to himself? People assumed that he meant Jay, if I recall correctly, but I'm not so sure that's the case. When he finally did look around and spot Jay, it was when he was already at the tunnel and looked like he was about to do something. Whatever that "something" was.

What he yelled at Bruce the instant he started bothering him, "I told you not to follow me!" is also very strange. Bruce very clearly had no idea what Alex was talking about, he even said he didn't know what he was talking about before he got rushed! So just to reiterate, Alex very clearly did not say anything of the sort to this man. My belief is that Alex had just gotten so paranoid and angry that he mistook the man for Masky/Hoody/whoever in a moment of passion, and then killed him in the heat of the moment. He's been doing crazy enough stuff already that I think this is viable. He's sorta going crazy.

But my point is that this makes his behavior in regards to Jay pointing out their follower even stranger, doesn't it?

I think one of the things we were supposed to get out of this entry was that Tim is, indeed, the one who has been following Jay through the forest. Particularly in 49, where he heard some rustling behind him, but found nothing. He didn't question it vocally until this entry, and it's the same sort of thing we've been dealing with, so narratively it would be presumed that it has been Tim all along. I'm thinking based on this assumption.

Which brings me to Extraction. It was pretty much agreed that the eye in the tunnel which was shown meant TTA had been watching Alex when he killed Bruce, correct? Assuming we're correct, and assuming Tim was infact the one following Jay in #49, wouldn't this point towards Tim and TTA being connected yet again?

Of course, this is far from confirming anything of the sort. I'm not trying to draw conclusions, just connections.

I don't think what Alex wanted to show Jay had anything to do with the tunnel, which is strange. It didn't seem like the same place, and it would have been weird for Jay to walk so far off from when he left Alex just to be lead back there by Tim. In addition, the camera bag Alex had with him at the tunnel seemed pretty vital to whatever he was doing. It would be weird for him not to bring that with him, I feel, though it doesn't exactly rule anything out by any means. Regardless, I believe that whatever Alex wanted to show Jay was something entirely new. Which may have been obvious, but I wanted to put the notion out there anyway.

Speaking of Jay chasing Tim through the forest, though, is anybody else noticing any similarities between that entire scene and Entry #45? Two things in particular. Most obviously, the chase. It does seem like Tim lead Jay to the tunnel, the way he was just standing there waiting for him convinces me of that. Secondly, though, what Jay screams in the tunnel, and more frighteningly, how he screams it. I mean the distortion that happens. It felt hauntingly similar to Alex yelling into the forest after Tim and Hoody fled the scene. Given, he didn't express the desire to kill anyone, but regardless, the similarity spooked me out a bit. I don't know if it means anything, though.

I don't know if the number Jay wrote on the tape means anything important. Maybe it's just the way he organizes tapes? I don't think it's important for now, at any rate. Maybe it'll come into play later, maybe not. What's of more concern to me is why he decided to blatantly stick it in the camera's face like that.

I mean, it makes sense that he would, sure. It's important to record. But he hasn't seemed concern about making a lot of other things he's encountered clear at all, so why that? Could he have been suspecting something to happen? It might simply speak more to Jay's character that he was worried something may happen to him and that someone else might need to pick up his cause or something.

Speaking of, does anybody else think it weird how often he's calling Jessica just to update her on what's going on? As far as I can tell she hadn't expressed much desire to be THAT in the loop, though she was certainly concerned and confused. It sort of just seems to me like Jay's desparate to keep someone close to him. His only ally before this was Alex, but now that's over with. By telling Jessica what he's doing, she would be able to put together that something happened if he just stopped calling, right? Is Jay thinking that far ahead? Character development?!

But that's unrelated to theorizing, so I apologize for the tangent.

Going back to Tim, assuming he really was "leading" Jay to the tunnel, what was the purpose of that? Was it related to the blackout at the end of that tape? There was a lot of distortion in that tunnel, so something must have gone down, but I guess we can't know what just yet. Tim seemed long gone by that point, so I doubt he was involved. I don't think Hoody was either. Not that he wasn't anywhere in the area, but that just doesn't "sound" right to me, which is a horrible reason to say something, I know.

Either way, something was obviously wrong with Jay by the time he reached that tunnel. He even tripped over a pile of rocks, for crying out loud.

For the bit that the camera was pointed at Jay, he seemed very stressed out. I think it's important that he's getting this angry, especially with the message of that last TTA video being that "somebody" doesn't have enough hate. It may not be Jay, but who knows? Maybe they're just trying to piss him off enough. They seemed able to build up enough paranoia in Alex to do all sorts of crazy stuff he might not have done otherwise, assuming it is driven by that at all. I think it is, anyway. Are they trying to do the same to Jay?

One other thing I'd like to address. I don't know how much I'm in agreement with the assumption that Alex's plan is to have both Jessica and Jay killed in the forest. I think it's definitely possible, and one of the more likely theories, but I don't want to assume that's the case.

I mentioned earlier that I think Alex went a little crazy when he killed Bruce. I highly doubt he had any plans to kill anybody at all when he was there. Assuming I'm correct, why would he suddenly want to murder one or two more people? Maybe he's given up on the entire Slenderman business and has resolved to kill all who are involved at once, including himself, by burning the forest down? Is that what the lighter's for?!

Jokes aside, I don't know if it makes enough sense for that to be the automatic conclusion we jump at. Another possibility: what if Alex actually feels a little guilty? What if, after releasing some steam and killing Bruce, he realizes, if only slightly, what a murderous prick he's been, and perhaps wants to come clean? If Slenderman's/TTA's/Masky's influence really has driven him off the deep-end and was the reason he decided to rock Bruce's world, doesn't it seem reasonable that any normal person would feel just a teeny, tiny bit bad about it?

Then again, this is Alex we're talking about. Who knows what's going on with him anymore?

I question how correct that is, but hey! Maybe it has more viability to it than I think. No reason not to at least put it out there. Just want to look at it from a few more angles.

I have more theories than these ideas cover, but I guess that's enough conjecture for one post. I don't want to go off spouting too much nonsense before I have a more solid basis for them, and I'm pretty sure bits and pieces of most of them have been thrown around anyway, so it won't be much of anything new. Sorry for spouting so much nonsense all at once. Any thoughts on any of it, though?

[NewInTown2]

[awakeasaurusrex]

Woooow, NICE.

Thoughts:

- I think it's pretty clear from the phone call he has with her at the start of the Entry that Jay and Jessica have been keeping in regular contact. I would not be surprised if they had been working together on investigating Alex - Jay doing the on-camera stalking, Jessica working on other leads in the background.

- Entry 51 will most likely be the contents of the Mystery Tape.

- Entry 52 will most likely be the season finale, and present Jessica and Jay's meetup with Alex at the park. I suspect they'd keep the rendezvous so as not to raise Alex's suspicions too much. I also suspect Tim will intervene to prevent Alex from disposing of them.

[awakeasaurusrex]

[awakeasaurusrex]

Guesses for events in Entry 52:

- Alex tries to give Jessica and Jay to Slendy, is foiled, buys the farm.

- Jay loots Alex's stuff, hence the fact that he has the chest-cam and Alex's tapes now.

- Tim does something to cause them to forget, then posts the mystery twitpics that lead into season 2 on Jay's twitter for shits and giggles. This entails an extended brainwashing process (hence the photos being released over several days).

- Entry 27 happens.

[Cactus Wren]

I thought Alex would have his house re-keyed, but then I remembered that he can't even afford to replace his wiper blades, much less his locks.

Was anyone else expecting Jay to open the front door on his way out and walk directly into a deeply, deeply annoyed Alex?

[elkapo]

[pembury]

probably doesnt mean any thing but i shat brix at this.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Listen-This-Alex-Ross/dp/0007319061/ref=sr_1_17?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1317469497&sr=1-17

I was looking for the listen book and i found this

Listen to This: Alex Ross

you know, alex, rosswood park, listen. probably nothing but you know.

[Hylianhero777]

I'm going to go with the "burn the tapes" theory. It just makes so much sense, with all the references that's had in the past. In fact, maybe Alex intended to burn the tape Jay stole soon, but didn't for whatever reason. And if that's the case, there is something on that tape Alex does NOT want Jay to see.

[George G]

My (lame) idea for an entry #51:

[We see Alex looking directly into the camera]

Alex: Hello, Jay. It looks like you managed to successfully steal something from my apartment, after all. Congratulations. You are just full of surprises, Jay old man, oh yes you are.

But I have a surprise of my own prepared for you, Jay. You see, while you were so very busy searching through my apartment, like a stealthy master thief that you are, I went to... does the word "Ark" mean anything to you? There I met an old friend of mine. I made him... an offering. We discussed the situation, and concluded that you, Jay, would be better off without some very unpleasant memories that you currently have. We are doing you a favor, really.

Listen closely, this is the best part. Afterwards, I broke into your apartment. You are not the only one who can do that, you know. But unlike you I didn't steal anything, don't worry. On the contrary, I left... a little souvenir for you. A little piece of... artwork, that will show my friend a way to find you, like a kind of a beacon.

Bye, Jay. Do not be afraid: it will be quite painless. But right now I wouldn't look behind, if I were you.

[tape ends]

[theonewhoquestions]

Congrats Jay, you stole Alex's birthday footage. Way to go.

I had more to say, but I gotta get going. Just let me say, those of you who are disappointed, NEVER watch Audition.

[Rorschachian]

Hey guys, I'm back after a few months of missing memory.
Query: Where does 38 fall on the wiki timeline?

[Radiolab Hope]