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Is The Operator really the bad guy?
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aboynamedsam
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@The Slender Man

THIS!

I love the theory. I'm with Riovas in that there isn't a lot of evidence to back it up but, in reality, what theory so far does? It's all a lot of speculation at this point.

I especially enjoyed the idea that Alex in a serial killer. That would explain a lot. The disappearances, the mood swings. Even the blood on Alex's head and face could be explained. It's possible that he killed that night and either the blood from the victim splattered him (not as likely with the blood pattern) or the victim fought back (more likely). My personal favorite theory is this: Alex was visited by and driven insane by TO early in childhood (the birthday party). Due to his insanity he hears voices that tell him to do things (possible explanation for the pills Jay found. Anti-psychotics?). Sometimes, those voices become unbearably loud and he tries to quiet them by bashing his own head against a wall. Self mutilation is not unheard of behavior. See Albert Fish for details. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish

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Tharol
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Now most people have no idea what purpose he now has there.

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Camero
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In the end, it's gonna turn out that Slendy just wanted to make friends, and the last line of the series will be Tim saying "You know, today I think we learned who the REAL monster is."

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Tharol
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The operator was trying get some directions to his place.

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Sleight
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The Slender Man wrote:
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Ok this is going to be a very long one but bear with me.
We can see that Alex was acting highly unstable throughout the series, and has shown an extremely violent streak, but we have always assumed that this was just an effect of the Operator. However we have not seen the increasingly hostile, angry and otherwise paranoid behavior in Jay, Jessica, or any other set member to anywhere near the same extent aside from Maskie (which i will get back to later). While it is possible that this is simply due to Alex's greater "exposure" (which if Alex's comment in #22 of Jay being "gone" indicates that Jay was previously exposed to the Operator is in itself false), maybe there is another factor at play which explains this.
The maskies themselves, while terrifying have not yet shown any attempt to harm Jay, only to harm Alex, and this is despite having the means and opportunity to do so on numerous occasions. In fact if TOTHEARK is indeed related to them, then they may indeed have been trying to warn him or otherwise scare him off, and when Jay encounters them they are only shown to chase him away, or to watch him sleep. However we can also see they have a special dislike for Alex, who himself is extremely hostile towards them, despite the lack of evidence they were doing the same to him.
As for the Operator, Alex is both terrified of, and obsessed with him, seeking him out one day, and screaming at Jay for "leading him" to his apartment the next. the entity also terrifies the maskies who stop their attempt to kill Alex when he appears nearby. Jay himself is terrified of the operator, but never seems to actively seek him out (until #40, but even then he was there on Alex's orders).
In my opinion, the Operator himself, while the key factor in events, is little but a red herring to the actual story, aimed to distract Jay (and the by proxy the audience) from what is really going on.
My theory is that Alex is a serial killer, who murdered the Marble hornets cast and crew (hence the title of the series being Marble Hornets, as it is the story of what happened to the people making the film) one by one in the Forest, and later the old factory we saw in #22 and other entries. in #22 Seth wasn't helping Alex hunt the Operator, Alex had lured him down there to his "killing ground" as shown by the blood spattered everywhere, and killed him as he was facing the other way. He also killed Amy after #26 (hence his lies to Jay and Jessica that his actions are to try and find her) and possibly others if totheark's "classified" message referencing what he did to "the twins" is anything to go on.
The maskies who are Tim, the guy in the black mask and possibly (if they are not the same) the guy in the "skull mask" glimpsed in entry 26, eventually found this out during his spree (which itself infers the other maskies are survivors of, or related to the Marble Hornets crew) and are trying to stop him. Their attempts to scare Jay off, their watching him in his sleep, have all been (in their twisted minds) to protect him from Alex, and they have also been doing the same for Jessica. the TOTHEARK video "version" gives Jay the location of a tape showing Alex's murder of Seth, and the other videos have been trying to alert him to who Alex is.
As for Alex, they have been tracking him down since the murders, and thanks to him getting in contact with Jay again, they now know where he is, and began to hunt him down and try to kill him. All of which while horrific would be fairly mundane had these events not been complicated by the Operator.
Amid these events, "the Operator" came into play. Alex saw him when he was committing his crimes (Alex's reason for seeking him in #2 because the operator "scared his dog" just seems a little off), or was already being stalked by him (as #37 would indicate), and is thus terrified of him both because of him being well... the operator, and because it saw what he did, but also obsessed with him as the operator reminds him of what he did, both exiting him and filling him with guilt.
The operator in turn became (or always was) extremely interested in Alex, and thus has been stalking him and watching his crimes. To date all of his appearances have been in places where Alex has either killed someone, or is about to. The evidence for this is that all of his appearances have been in either remote or secluded areas like under bridges, alleyways, derelict structures, deep forest, or in buildings Alex lives in, which are thus extremely convenient areas to kill, and dispose of bodies. Also in entry 46 he appeared just as Alex was getting seriously pissed off with Jay, or in 26 when he seemed to be getting unduly irritated with Amy for playing with his camera, possibly in anticipation of Alex snapping again. Possibly Alex discovered the Operator when revisiting his crime scenes (which is a noted habit of serial killers like Ted Bundy), and realized after seeing him in so many of these places that it was following him.
It is also possible that he has been manipulating the events for his own reasons like removing memories of important events from characters apart from Alex in order to ensure they do not find out his crimes until he has done this so many times, they build up a resistance to this, but go insane and become a Maskie instead. on this note if he has been stalking Alex his whole life, he may indeed be the cause of his psychosis.
the operator toyed with the the Maskies in this manner while they were investigating the disappearances of their friends, and due to this they are driven into insane fury when thinking about Alex (see Tim's interview and his behavior when Alex is mentioned, as opposed to instantly fleeing when the Operator is referenced). Alex in turn both hates and fears the maskies as they know what he did. When Jay first encountered one (or more possibly) in Brian's house, they were trying to find Alex themselves, and became obsessed with Jay both to protect him, and to try and access Alex through him.
As for Jay, when he got the tapes from Alex (who wanted to dispose of evidence and to escape the guilt of his crimes which is why he told Jay to never mention them again), he was just another bystander during Alex's crimes, whose mind was messed with by the operator into amnesia. However both the Maskies and Alex have been using him for their own ends, the Maskies (as mentioned earlier) to get to Alex, and Alex to appease the operator by giving him Jay as a "sacrifice" (as he believes the story he told Jay in #38 about his origin), which is shown by Alex making Jay go to areas Alex is sure he will appear. the operator however remains fixated on Alex, which serves both to terrify him into more extreme behavior and actions, and to also protect him from the maskies who themselves are terrified of him.
However, as of #47 Jay has finally realized that Alex has been lying to him the whole time, and not just that but lying about the safety of someone Alex supposedly deeply cares for. Now I predict Jay will begin to take a much deeper look into Alex's actions... by stalking him in the vein of both the Maskies and the Operator.


This is the greatest theory I have ever read. It does fly in the face of how Marble Hornets began though. Alex willingly gave up tapes to Jay. Jay did this randomly. Why would Alex track Jay down if Jay is NOWHERE close to figuring him out?

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AngryDeepground
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Sleight wrote:
The Slender Man wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Ok this is going to be a very long one but bear with me.
We can see that Alex was acting highly unstable throughout the series, and has shown an extremely violent streak, but we have always assumed that this was just an effect of the Operator. However we have not seen the increasingly hostile, angry and otherwise paranoid behavior in Jay, Jessica, or any other set member to anywhere near the same extent aside from Maskie (which i will get back to later). While it is possible that this is simply due to Alex's greater "exposure" (which if Alex's comment in #22 of Jay being "gone" indicates that Jay was previously exposed to the Operator is in itself false), maybe there is another factor at play which explains this.
The maskies themselves, while terrifying have not yet shown any attempt to harm Jay, only to harm Alex, and this is despite having the means and opportunity to do so on numerous occasions. In fact if TOTHEARK is indeed related to them, then they may indeed have been trying to warn him or otherwise scare him off, and when Jay encounters them they are only shown to chase him away, or to watch him sleep. However we can also see they have a special dislike for Alex, who himself is extremely hostile towards them, despite the lack of evidence they were doing the same to him.
As for the Operator, Alex is both terrified of, and obsessed with him, seeking him out one day, and screaming at Jay for "leading him" to his apartment the next. the entity also terrifies the maskies who stop their attempt to kill Alex when he appears nearby. Jay himself is terrified of the operator, but never seems to actively seek him out (until #40, but even then he was there on Alex's orders).
In my opinion, the Operator himself, while the key factor in events, is little but a red herring to the actual story, aimed to distract Jay (and the by proxy the audience) from what is really going on.
My theory is that Alex is a serial killer, who murdered the Marble hornets cast and crew (hence the title of the series being Marble Hornets, as it is the story of what happened to the people making the film) one by one in the Forest, and later the old factory we saw in #22 and other entries. in #22 Seth wasn't helping Alex hunt the Operator, Alex had lured him down there to his "killing ground" as shown by the blood spattered everywhere, and killed him as he was facing the other way. He also killed Amy after #26 (hence his lies to Jay and Jessica that his actions are to try and find her) and possibly others if totheark's "classified" message referencing what he did to "the twins" is anything to go on.
The maskies who are Tim, the guy in the black mask and possibly (if they are not the same) the guy in the "skull mask" glimpsed in entry 26, eventually found this out during his spree (which itself infers the other maskies are survivors of, or related to the Marble Hornets crew) and are trying to stop him. Their attempts to scare Jay off, their watching him in his sleep, have all been (in their twisted minds) to protect him from Alex, and they have also been doing the same for Jessica. the TOTHEARK video "version" gives Jay the location of a tape showing Alex's murder of Seth, and the other videos have been trying to alert him to who Alex is.
As for Alex, they have been tracking him down since the murders, and thanks to him getting in contact with Jay again, they now know where he is, and began to hunt him down and try to kill him. All of which while horrific would be fairly mundane had these events not been complicated by the Operator.
Amid these events, "the Operator" came into play. Alex saw him when he was committing his crimes (Alex's reason for seeking him in #2 because the operator "scared his dog" just seems a little off), or was already being stalked by him (as #37 would indicate), and is thus terrified of him both because of him being well... the operator, and because it saw what he did, but also obsessed with him as the operator reminds him of what he did, both exiting him and filling him with guilt.
The operator in turn became (or always was) extremely interested in Alex, and thus has been stalking him and watching his crimes. To date all of his appearances have been in places where Alex has either killed someone, or is about to. The evidence for this is that all of his appearances have been in either remote or secluded areas like under bridges, alleyways, derelict structures, deep forest, or in buildings Alex lives in, which are thus extremely convenient areas to kill, and dispose of bodies. Also in entry 46 he appeared just as Alex was getting seriously pissed off with Jay, or in 26 when he seemed to be getting unduly irritated with Amy for playing with his camera, possibly in anticipation of Alex snapping again. Possibly Alex discovered the Operator when revisiting his crime scenes (which is a noted habit of serial killers like Ted Bundy), and realized after seeing him in so many of these places that it was following him.
It is also possible that he has been manipulating the events for his own reasons like removing memories of important events from characters apart from Alex in order to ensure they do not find out his crimes until he has done this so many times, they build up a resistance to this, but go insane and become a Maskie instead. on this note if he has been stalking Alex his whole life, he may indeed be the cause of his psychosis.
the operator toyed with the the Maskies in this manner while they were investigating the disappearances of their friends, and due to this they are driven into insane fury when thinking about Alex (see Tim's interview and his behavior when Alex is mentioned, as opposed to instantly fleeing when the Operator is referenced). Alex in turn both hates and fears the maskies as they know what he did. When Jay first encountered one (or more possibly) in Brian's house, they were trying to find Alex themselves, and became obsessed with Jay both to protect him, and to try and access Alex through him.
As for Jay, when he got the tapes from Alex (who wanted to dispose of evidence and to escape the guilt of his crimes which is why he told Jay to never mention them again), he was just another bystander during Alex's crimes, whose mind was messed with by the operator into amnesia. However both the Maskies and Alex have been using him for their own ends, the Maskies (as mentioned earlier) to get to Alex, and Alex to appease the operator by giving him Jay as a "sacrifice" (as he believes the story he told Jay in #38 about his origin), which is shown by Alex making Jay go to areas Alex is sure he will appear. the operator however remains fixated on Alex, which serves both to terrify him into more extreme behavior and actions, and to also protect him from the maskies who themselves are terrified of him.
However, as of #47 Jay has finally realized that Alex has been lying to him the whole time, and not just that but lying about the safety of someone Alex supposedly deeply cares for. Now I predict Jay will begin to take a much deeper look into Alex's actions... by stalking him in the vein of both the Maskies and the Operator.


This is the greatest theory I have ever read. It does fly in the face of how Marble Hornets began though. Alex willingly gave up tapes to Jay. Jay did this randomly. Why would Alex track Jay down if Jay is NOWHERE close to figuring him out?


It's Slender Man himself, of course the theory would be accurate, we have a suspect right here.

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