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[Trailhead] Veil Nanoscience Inc.
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Way to go!

Great work liveinskin for getting the drop!!!!! Rock On

And great work Korinthian, for getting the packet and posting it's contents!

Way cool guys!!!!

I'm going to check it all and report back later! Good work!!!!
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I managed to isolate the voices from the weird noises pretty well.

The vocal track wasn't very good to begin with so this is what I've come up with so far.

Hopefully we can get some good information out of it especially combined with the packet that Korinthian got.

http://www.mediafire.com/?8mom139x4lro5uh

Edit: Writing a transcript to the best of my abilities.
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Alright, so Britt and I have been doing some digging, and I've been doing a lot of reading (this packet seriously makes me feel like I'm reading Natalie Portman's account of her time in V's holding cell, in V for Vendetta), and we've been talking back and forth.

We just realized who is in the audio recording. We were trying to catch the girl's name (the doctor's name is Fitzgerald), and I skipped to the end, and I caught a quick "Janie, I love you" right before the audio cut out. It totally didn't click to me, I wasn't really paying attention, so I went back to reading.

Well, good ol' Britt caught it, and as soon as she mentioned it, it hit me too.

Herp derp, Jane is Alec's daughter. We're trying to clean the audio up so we can hear more of it, but it's rough. If anyone has any experience with sound software, Audacity, etc., please give it a go. I have a buddy of mine trying, too, but the more the better.

On my end, the packet doesn't seem to relate much to the current situation at all. It's definitely a backstory to all this, and I won't lie, I find myself anxiously flipping the pages as I get closer to the end. It draws you in. [Deleted], self-titled, has been "dreaming" (or, 'inhabiting') as she calls it, other peoples' memories. So far, she's been in the memories of a man named Frankie, Hunter, an unnamed Vietnam POW, and a girl named Sugar Garcia/Maddie Walker/Maddie Burke.

Interesting note, Maddie Walker/Burke/Sugar Garcia (all one person, Maddie got married) works for the CIA. Pretty sure this is that reference to MKULTRA. There was a scene where she was hypnotized, commanded to shoot a friend of her's that was sitting across the table. In the margin of [Deleted]'s notebook, she wrote "How did you know he was called The MagiCIAn?"

Maddie/Sugar gets a call, and her trigger phrase is "Is that you, Eden?", which sets her off in a crazy sleeper-agent frenzy. It doesn't go into detail about what she does.

[Deleted] is being granted more and more freedoms - shower herself, go outside to smoke, etc. Before, she was stuck in a room, and every night, she'd drink a glass of water they left her, and it would put her to sleep. She writes in a journal she calls Logos. And she dubbed her caretaker's name to be Fill (when she mentioned "I wonder who fills my glass every night?" and then went into tangent about "Fill! His name is Fill.")

There's a lot more to it, but.. like I said, it's a lot to read and take in. I can't wait for some other people to get it.






Also... and this depresses me gravely, but - I am almost 99.9999% sure that Eve Randall is dead. A snippet of her journal entry has her and Fill walking down the hallway, when they come across a suicide in the hall, and Veil suits all over - including personal military security. [Deleted] didn't know who it was - she'd never seen another girl's face, BUT she did talk to Eve through the walls of their holding cells one night. VERY briefly, but she did.

After they witnessed the suicide, Fill claimed "As of now, you're my only ward." Which pretty much leads me to believe that all the other girls from Ward 5 are dead. Including Eve.

As I continue to read, I'll try to update.

EDIT: Kinda want to cry a little - Fill's dead. I just read. That prefaces what I'm about to transcribe here:


[Deleted] wrote:
"Today, I woke up as if nothing had happened. The sheets were fresh. My jumper was clean. I didn't know anything should be wrong until I read about Fill's death [in Logos (her journal)] and remembered.

I know that on some level I should feel sad, that he was the closest thing to a friend I had currently, and before that... well... I don't know... but all I feel is cold and numb.

And different somehow. Like I'm floating out of my body, like something is pushing me out. The way I felt when the resident took over Sugar's body. But who is trying to occupy me now, I can't say.

Looking down at my feet just now, I noticed where they missed cleaning some blood between my big and middle toes. When I went to clean it myself, I realized it wasn't blood but a letter written in red. And then I exmaine the insiders of all my toes. On each side there is a leter. Altogether they spell:

Nv vz bh vf tq ad kk cl.

I wish I knew what it meant and why it was there."


EDIT 3:

I just read the final entry in [Deleted]'s journal. It's sad and somewhat relieving, too. And it gives us new information. A good bit of it.


[Deleted] wrote:


Dear Logos,

Sugar and Frank woke me up today. They said it was time for me to go. It's okay, they will help me and then I will never have to remember anything ever again. They are lying on the floor now, where I have penned them into the flesh. They wait for me to crawl in between them after I say goodbye to you.

They will sing me to sleep. one of Fill's songs. And then she will finally arrive and they'll all go out to greet her.

They've me my name. Whispered it in my ear and told me what it means.

I am Cassandra. And it is time for me to close my eyes.

Yours All Ways,

Del.



Cassandra Darry is a name on the list we first got back in the picture Britt destegged. Cassandra Darry was a subject in Ward 5, under Fill's care, and under Dr. Darling's study. Her cell, Room 546A, Ward 5, was next to/adjacent to Eve's room, where she spoke to her briefly one night before never seeing her again.

I'm trying to figure out what that code between Del's toes are - it's not any Caesarian shift, from what I can tell, unless it's anagram'd or missing letters that we have to fill in (Rot10 and Rot13 make a little bit of sense).

And finally, we have a page from the researchers at the very end:

Final Transcription Note wrote:


Scattered throughout this subjects journal were drawings of cards from a typical deck in the top left corner. They were found in this order. We were never able to determine the significance of these, but are included here for future study.


- 7 of Diamonds
- 1 of Clubs
- 8 of Clubs
- 12 of Clubs
- 12 of Spades
- 5 of Clubs
- 11 of Clubs
- Joker A
- 3 of Spades
- 8 of Hearts
- 10 of Spades
- 5 of Spades
- 13 of Spades
- 6 of Diamonds
- 5 of Diamonds
- 1 of Hearts
- 4 of Diamonds
- 4 of Spades
- 13 of Diamonds
- 9 of Diamonds
- 8 of Diamonds
- 12 of Hearts
- 7 of Clubs
- 3 of Clubs
- 4 of Clubs
- 7 of Hearts
- 2 of Diamonds
- 9 of Spades
- 8 of Spades
- 3 of Hearts
- 13 of Hearts
- 11 of Spades
- Joker B
- 3 of Diamonds
- 10 of Clubs
- 4 of Hearts
- 6 of Clubs
- 9 of Clubs
- 10 of Hearts
- 11 of Hearts
- 6 of Hearts
- 5 of Hearts
- 2 of Hearts
- 2 of Spades
- 12 of Diamonds
- 1 of Diamonds
- 9 of Hearts
- 1 of Spades
- 7 of Spades
- 6 of Spades
- 13 of Clubs
- 10 of Diamonds
- 2 of Clubs
- 11 of Diamonds


The only relevance I can think of with the cards is that Fill and Del played a game of Solitaire, to which she said it was a weird game for two people to play, and Fill responded by chuckling and asking if she'd ever heard of something called a "Lover's Quarrel". But that's the only real mention of cards.

Not all the drawings Del/Cassandra did have a Number/Suite on them, though.

In order of appearance, in the packet, the pictures with Number/Suite on them:

- 7 of Diamonds (picture Cory showed us, with the musical notes)
- 12 of Hearts (drawing of the room, with Adam on the left, [Deleted] in the middle, and Eve on the right)
- 5 of Clubs (Journal entry; [Del] finds a drawing of a crown on a bar below the bed. "Is it a message from Logos?")

After that, there's only one more picture, and it has no number/suite.

Towards the end, starting at Entry #84, [Del] removed entries that would have been marked 85-87. Then 89-92. Then 94-101. Then 103-128. Then 130-151. Then 153-167. Final entry is #168, the one I quoted earlier.


And that's about it for me on my end. I tried to take note of everything important. Like I said, hopefully by the time the weekend is up, I'll have this copied or scanned, and on its way to all you guys.


EDIT: Um.

So.

I'm retarded.

In that recording... Jane mentions something about Frankenstein, reading Frankenstein. It's not too farfetched to think that Jane has something to do with dataserver3 - or maybe, whoever gave her Frankenstein, has something to do with it. I don't know. But it made pretty damn good sense to me.

Secondly: Leslie asked if I'd been in contact with Bill lately, so I took the cue and emailed him. He was grateful to hear from me, etc., etc. Well.. in my reading, I did find a good bit about Eve. I scanned a few pages, because I told him what I knew, and tried to pretty it up, and not make him freak out... but he asked for the scans. So I did. I'll provide them here, too.

Thirdly: On the whole cards thing, Fill mentions some kind of weird.. Alphagetti Math, in relation to the cards. It may be something of value. Also uploading that.

So.. BUMP <== This post is important.
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chip 44 - email to Theresa / Veil N

As i posted earlier - got the chip 77 email... - here's my email to her (yeah i'm a noob at this formalized arg stuff)

Good afternoon Ms. Markovich,

Just had a quick question - How will Veil Nanoscience be determining which experimental group someone is placed in?

Thanks so much for your time. I look forward to hearing from you! (and I'm sure I'll have more questions as we go farther down this road!

her response:
Hello,

Research subjects will be randomly placed into their groups. While the idea of subjects choosing which group to enter sounds good on paper, our researchers believe that it could influence test results.

Thank you! Have a great afternoon!

- Theresa


my response back ( i could have possibly chatted with her on gmail, but trying to do some studying, dinner and a few other things...)

another question - what is the expected test group size? I see that applications are closed for the trial at this point, but wondering just how many of applicants there are and will any of us have to worry about "placebos" like a traditional trial for meds?

Oh and BTW: are you the Theresa Markovich, who studied at Uni of Toledo and member of nei - neuroscience education institute? just wondering since i'm in Toledo - great university!

Her response;:
Sorry, wrong Theresa! I studied at Stanford.

I'm not at liberty to discuss the testing arrangements further than I already have. Apologies!

- sorry gotta get to bed, up at 4am EST for surgery cases. today was a whole lotta that too. sorry sorry

btw: great stuff some of you guys are getting !!!


again, thanks so much for your time!

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Not to draw attention to myself, but I edited + added pictures to my previous post. They're important.

EDIT:

Also, I emailed Alice back.

Alice and I wrote:


Me wrote:

Dr. Silva,

I apologize for not returning your email sooner. We did actually find something at the site of Dr. Veil's accident, and it gave us some insight on a few things. While one of our members received the drop at Exit 77, I received a debriefing packet on an old subject of Veil's - a subject from the same group of girls that Mr. Randall's daughter, Eve, was from. I just now finished reading through all 168 journal entries that were present, and I must say, it was a bit jarring. My heart cried out to the poor girl who was subjected to these trials at the hands of Dr. Darling - and in the end, though I hoped and prayed that her tale would end happily, it did not.

But I found out who she was. And I found out that she did indeed know Eve Randall. Her name was Cassandra Darry, and she was one of the most prominent test subjects that Project-77 had back then. In fact, she was the last one standing. All the others died - mostly of suicide. I fear... that Eve's fate was the same, judging by what I've read.

And while that's all in the past, it certainly worries me as to what Veil Nanoscience is planning now - we just today received an update on the project and what some of the memories they'd be programming us with.

My real concern right now, though, Dr. Silva? It's Alec's daughter. The contents we procured at Exit 77 was a USB drive with 2 pictures - 1 of the newspaper clipping of the accident, and one of the police report filed for the accident. The final piece of information, however, is a roughly 8-minute long recording between a Dr. Fitzgerald, and a girl named Jane. At first, it didn't make sense to me, who Jane was, but as I listened more, a third voice came into play, one of compassion and love - directed, obviously, towards the girl. The sound file ended with the man saying "Janie, I love you."

There's much I've learned today, and much still that I worry about - particularly, Alec's daughter. I told you I'd keep you informed if I came up with anything. I know your fondness for Alec, but something is heavily amiss at his company, and with the history they've had, I'm beginning to doubt my involvement in their program. If nothing else, I will remain only to do some justice to those poor girls who lost their lives for the sake of the progress of his Project Mnemosyne.

If any of this means anything to you, and if anything might help us out, I'd appreciate it. If not, as always, I understand.

Take care, Doctor.

Damian


Alice wrote:
There was actually something there? That is, well. Not surprising, because I thought perhaps that something could be different this year. But...something was there.

Oh my. Janie. She was such a lovely girl. A young woman. Do you know how much I miss her? She had such a bright future ahead of her. Just like her father.

Gosh. I'm getting teary eyed just thinking about it. She lit up a room like you wouldn't believe. Bright, green eyes, just like her father. They had so much in common. He loved her. He loved her so much.

Her smile was just...beautiful. She was so happy, always.


Me wrote:
Dr. Silva,

I hate to pry, I really do. I can tell how much of an emotional struggle this is for you, and how your involvement is painful...

But, what happened to her? And why is she in this recording? Judging by the sound of it... she doesn't remember her father. And she's showing progress like previous Project-77 subjects showed. And a lot of things point to her being more involved in her father's work than anyone would have us believe. But.. I have to know. There are lives at stake, Dr. Silva. Several of them.


Alice wrote:
I'd appreciate your patience. I'm fighting back tears here, hiding in the upstairs bathroom away from my husband. He doesn't like hearing about this, at all. He'll ask why I'm upset and I'm a bad liar.

I suspect he takes this much harder than he should. For some reason, I think he takes some blame for this because of...well, that's another story entirely.

Jane suffered a horrible head injury in that accident. Alec...he was a great man, but modesty was never one of his virtues. When he arrived, he just had to have the new, something or other convertible.

When they crashed, Alec's wife died instantly. Little Janie, well, she was a teenager but still just a baby in my eyes, asleep in the backseat.

Retrograde amnesia. She was in a coma for days, weeks. It was so hard on him. It changed him.

The last thing I heard...the worst part of this. She needed rehabilitation once she woke up. She didn't know how to, well, live. Could you imagine not knowing anything about your life? Your family? Something happened there though. Something that I can't even guess about. She disappeared.



Ohhhhh boy. This is getting heavy.

EDIT: Also, someone needs to come keep me company in the IRC, for I am bored.


EDIT 3: New email from dataserver3... I have a sick suspicion that's Cory.
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Gah! Things are going down right before I'm gonna be away from the internet all weekend! Lots of stuff to process. The recording from the USB is heartbreaking. I'll need to relisten to get all of the info from it.

Anyway, I've made a timeline of known events, not including all of the most recent occurances. The backstory is clearly very important here, so having a timeline might help with keeping track of things. If anyone sees stuff I've missed, feel free to point it out. And feel free to post it to the wiki.
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Timeline: (parentheses indicate my comments or suppositions)

1975- CBALtech founded by Joseph and Alice Silva

1977- Veil receives his MS from Stanford

1981- Veil receives his PhD from Stanford

1984- Presidio Institute of Technology founded

1992- Veil leaves Presidio (to join CBALtech?)

1997- Veil leaves CBALtech to found VN with Miller and Brandenburg. Stephen Coyne is suggested as his replacement.
1997- VN develops world's smallest RFID chip

1999- VN starts research on brain-computer interface, develops carbon nanotubes for use in solar cells

2000, October 9th- the accident. Veil's wife dies, daughter Jane is put into a Coma (for ~3 months, from the cleaned-up recording)

2001, February 15th- John Regglman email re: rumors of Alec leaving VN
2001, March 1st- Veil steps down as CEO of VN

2002, April 22nd- CIA becomes aware of IRIS operating in Sonoma County
2002, June 21st- email from Patrick ___ to Edith Tobin about VN's terrible quarterly numbers.

2005, January 10th- email between Brodenburg and Miller about needing Alec back

2007- VN begins Project-77
2007, October 15th- Col. Valenti ordered to meet with CIA director on this date in memo about VN contracting to supply devices. (The contract may have already happened, and this is the start of CIA direct testing, or the CIA is just starting to fund VN research into the chips, could be read either way)

2008, February 18th- Eve Randall goes missing at age 17
2008, April 22- Dr. Reines emails Dr. Darling about results in Ward Five
2008, September-November- [DELETED]'s journal is transcribed

2009- Project-77 moves into chimp testing phase

2010- VN begins plans for Project Mnemosyne, research Project-77 on humans
2010, October 7- Hope emails Miller about Alec heading out to Exit 77
2010, October 10- Memo to VN personnel re: Project Mnemosyne. (Presumably this is the "official" start of the project testing on humans)

2011, April 14th- Article about Randall's restarting his search for Eve in San Jose Inquirer
2011, May- CIA releases document about IRIS
2011, August 15th?- IRIS breaks in to Joseph Silva's office and takes a picture of his desk (I'm basing the date off the invoice on the top of the pile of papers.)
2011, September 28th- Cory Wester goes missing after IRC chat
2011, October 5th- DS3 sends a list of emailed pictures + frankenstein quotes, Presidio Institute's website is hacked giving access to the IRIS pictures of Silva's desk




EDIT: Talking with Korinthian on IRC, we checked out the audio file from the USB drive, and we found some numbers in the spectrogram of it. This is from the "waterfall" plot, around 3:58. Anyone with better audio skillz should check this out. There's a bit at the very beginning as well.

[img]http://imgur.com/jWyhm[/img]

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Like s1lver said, we were chit chatting in IRC, along with Brandon Mass's prodding on Facebook, and we started looking at the audio a little bit more closely. Like, super closely. And guess what we found?

Another drop-zone, we think (see: attached).

Also, here's a link to Google Maps, with the coordinates. Princeton, NJ. Liveinskin, looks like you're up again - unless there's someone else in that area, lol.

Google Maps - Coordinates

- Actual Address: County Road 533, Princeton, NJ 08542

Google Streetview - Aimed at Coords

- Upon further inspection, the actual coordinates seem to be further into Community Park North. The map shows a trail all throughout it. Probably back there somewhere.

It looks like some kind of walking/biking trail right along the road. Guarantee that's it. Noon, on the 15th. Someone better hop on it quick.
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wow this is all crazy. Good work on the audio coords. Wish I lived in NJ

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Fantastic work you all!!!! Wow! Wish I was in NJ too. Thanks for all the transcribing and scans! This is really developing.

You know what's a little 'creepy' -- my brother (real life) was in a bad car accident and in a coma for 3 months. He had to relearn everything and to this day has virtually no short term memory. He lives with me, in my care and has since 1987 (time of his crash!).

So you know, I'm really into this. Also we both were military ... and well ...

Anyway, now we just live out in the boonies of NW Central FL.

Interesting though as I was reading the 'story'.
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I wish I was closer to Princeton, too. From where I stand, though, it's a 6-hour drive, and I work Friday/Saturday, so it'd be impossible for me to make it there by noon, sadly. Trust me, I'd love to go. I love ARG memorabilia.

(I got my eye on one of those Chip-77 Housings. Fingers crossed!)

I haven't had any other development - I sent Bill those scans, and he just kinda.. zoned out and replied with "I miss her so much. I'm just reading it over, and over, and over again..." so.. I'm not sure how Bill is doing.

I prodded DS3 with a "Janie, is that you?" but, of course, no response, lol.

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Holy cow, that's a lot to take in while I'm supposed to be working! I'll check out the audio and other files on my lunch break or when I get home. Well done, everyone!
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wow, so much to take in! and another drop. i won't be around until sunday, I could possibly get it then, unless someone else wants to get it.

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Do we even have anyone else in the New Jersey/Princeton area that can go?

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Not that I'm aware of. We could send the details to the ARG deaddrop Twitter and see if anyone bites.
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