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The Baffled King
Boot

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 		On the second ('French') garden:

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The 'pattern' was less of a pattern than the other two gardens. There is a property that the garden words share and the others lack, of course, but the property is not what you'd call a 'pattern' within the words.


Second hint:
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Just guessing is apt to work better for this one than for the other two gardens.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:26 am
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drakono
Boot

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cgeorg wrote:
There was a reliable single pattern for the first and third. I have no idea what the pattern was for the second, I brute forced it.


Ah, okay. After going back and not rushing it, I can see the pattern for the second now. I was nearly there when I got through it the first time, but I hadn't generalized it enough.

Let's see, how to give a hint and not give it away? Tricky.
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Have you copied the words down? Using Windows Notepad might be helpful.
Or any editor with a Courier-type font.


Okay, I finally understand the third one now, too.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:45 pm
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herownwings
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drakono wrote:

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Have you copied the words down? Using Windows Notepad might be helpful.
Or any editor with a Courier-type font.


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what difference does the font make?


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drakono
Boot

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herownwings wrote:
drakono wrote:

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Have you copied the words down? Using Windows Notepad might be helpful.
Or any editor with a Courier-type font.


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what difference does the font make?


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The pattern will become clearer in Courier or a similar font. Courier is just the most common font with this property.


PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:00 pm
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Noanymous
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drakono wrote:
herownwings wrote:
drakono wrote:

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Have you copied the words down? Using Windows Notepad might be helpful.
Or any editor with a Courier-type font.


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what difference does the font make?


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The pattern will become clearer in Courier or a similar font. Courier is just the most common font with this property.


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monospace? hmm

i actually got the seal, but kinda used the same stuff in second and third gardens. and also you don't have to type real words at all.


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merelyviral
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SoItBegins wrote:
I found and got it! Took some guessing, after the first 'garden'. M sure has some crazy things in there.



Hmm, I didn't find anything odd with the 2nd garden.

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That was a hint.


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Can not get past the firs
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 		I found the seal and I am at the first garden but I can not find a word that works. It is obvious to me what he is "looking" for but I can not find a word that works.. any hints

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drakono
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Can not get past the firs wrote:
I found the seal and I am at the first garden but I can not find a word that works. It is obvious to me what he is "looking" for but I can not find a word that works.. any hints

Well, there are plenty of words that fit that pattern, but if you can't think of many, you can just type in gibberish that fits that pattern. They don't have to be dictionary words.

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burntdirt
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 		If you've found it and you're typing something in and not getting any responses, try a different browser. I was using IE9 and wasn't getting any responses. Switched to Google Chrome and started getting responses.

Much easier if everthing is actually working properly.

Probably some setting in IE9 that I need to change. Haven't looked into it yet.

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ne0x
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 		I understood one and two, but I just gave up and started guessing a "rule" for number three. It worked, but I'm not sure why.
I'm really not very good at the word puzzles sometimes.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:28 pm
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b0b
Boot

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 		For those who brute forced the second here is a huge spolier.....

HUGE
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The number consonants are any multiple of the number of vowels. Though I only tested even numbers and multiples of 1 and 2. For instance 'aass' and 'aassss' both work.



Also, you don't need to use real words, M should have forced a dictionary check.

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The Baffled King
Boot

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b0b wrote:
For those who brute forced the second here is a huge spolier.....

HUGE
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The number consonants are any multiple of the number of vowels. Though I only tested even numbers and multiples of 1 and 2. For instance 'aass' and 'aassss' both work.





Hm, I think that's not right, bOb. For instance, aaabbbccc is not in that garden. On the other hand, aaabbbxx is.

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b0b
Boot

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The Baffled King wrote:
b0b wrote:
For those who brute forced the second here is a huge spolier.....

HUGE
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The number consonants are any multiple of the number of vowels. Though I only tested even numbers and multiples of 1 and 2. For instance 'aass' and 'aassss' both work.





Hm, I think that's not right, bOb. For instance, aaabbbccc is not in that garden. On the other hand, aaabbbxx is.


Yeah, there is something weird with odd numbers. I'm sure there is some logic to it that I don't yet have completely figured out. Oh well.

Anyways, I didn't enjoy this one all that much. I like the theorem this week much better. But I only got 50 extra as I was out drinking when it was released and solved it today.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:57 am
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SoItBegins
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 		I'm just glad I'm getting my Rank back up... I completely missed a puzzle about 4 months ago because I was moving, and I've been recovering ever since.

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drakono
Boot

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b0b wrote:
The Baffled King wrote:
b0b wrote:
For those who brute forced the second here is a huge spolier.....

HUGE
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The number consonants are any multiple of the number of vowels. Though I only tested even numbers and multiples of 1 and 2. For instance 'aass' and 'aassss' both work.





Hm, I think that's not right, bOb. For instance, aaabbbccc is not in that garden. On the other hand, aaabbbxx is.


Yeah, there is something weird with odd numbers. I'm sure there is some logic to it that I don't yet have completely figured out. Oh well.

Anyways, I didn't enjoy this one all that much. I like the theorem this week much better. But I only got 50 extra as I was out drinking when it was released and solved it today.


The second garden has nothing to do with vowels and consonants, fyi. However, in the third garden...

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