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FossilizedSauce
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Does this video add any insight to Extraction? Tim, after all, was shown in a clip from an early entry, 20 I think (the same entry where nobody had any idea where Brian was)? His coughing fits in that entry (and his behavior) do seem to reflect what's happening to him in this entry. What's the connection?

Also Alex said he found that place with Seth a day before this entry took place. Is that meant to imply that this building is the same place Seth was attacked/killed? I didn't catch that mention before.

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device
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I rather thought that Alex paid particular attention to the detail of the location while filming because - perhaps - he intended someone else to follow his trail? Or needed to remind himself, in case he was "mind-wiped" where the location was in case he ever intended to return when he was "unoperated"....

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thecodeman
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I have been pondering a theory.....

..so let's see how it sounds written down. I believe the Operator is a being from another dimension. I think the term "operator" comes from him taking human "sacrifices" and studying them in his dimension. He is lured by fire, because it is like a beacon. Anyway, when the burnings of the criminals was stopped, he had no way to access people. Idk how he thought of Alex (maybe related to old sherrif/executioner?), but he chose him to supply him with people. Alex was originally terrified (who wouldn't be?) but after so much interaction with the operator slowly started to lose his mind. He finally became a "slave", if you will, where he acts himself but with the final objective being to obtain people. So he tricks Tim, Seth, and Brian into situations where they are alone and then the operator grabs them. Seth, in the cellar-thing where cremations where, and Tim/Brian in a burned hospital. I think that Tim and Brian were in the Operator's dimension. Tim somehow escapes, but due to being in there he has some "powers" the operator has (messing with technology). Jay must have found out something, and then had his memory erased. Tim has been trying to keep him from getting involved again, because he was off the radar, but now is trying to help him find the truth.



or maybe I'm completely wrong

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mods4fun
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Mariolee wrote:
Edit: If it's from Marble Hornets, why is it in HD?

Mariolee wrote:
So, we ever get an explanation for the HD switch?

Why is it such a big surprise that this entry is in HD? The entire season has been in 720p.

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BirdieJava
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mods4fun wrote:
Mariolee wrote:
Edit: If it's from Marble Hornets, why is it in HD?

Mariolee wrote:
So, we ever get an explanation for the HD switch?

Why is it such a big surprise that this entry is in HD? The entire season has been in 720p.


Because it makes no sense for Marble Hornets, the student film by Alex to be filmed in a camera that wasn't used for the rest of the film.

Think about it this way, we can accept the middle of the Wizard of Oz being in color while the scenes in Kansas are in sepia tones. If say, Citizen Kane or were to jump from colorized to black and white or Casablanca started out as a silent film and suddenly became a talkie.

This entry happened in 2006, before Alex or any of the other Marble Hornets (the youtube series we are watching) should rightfully have HD equipment.

On a different note, do Tim's recent appearances (especially in Entry 50) feel a little gratuitous, like Troseph is trying to say "Look, Tim's still in the production" rather that being important to the plot (granted it might only seem as such at the moment only to be revealed important later.)

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Yuki
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VioletRoses wrote:
What's with all this "ark" discussion? Has the phrase ever appeared other than in totheark's name? I don't think it necessarily has to be the name of a place, seeing how cryptic TTA tends to be.

I liked the burned down school trope, seems like sort of a nod to Victor Surge's Slender Man.


It's been said multiple times:
http://marblehornets.wikidot.com/the-ark

Camero wrote:
Regarding Brian as totheark--keep in mind that we see Brian's body being dragged, and that there is some blood on the ground where he was standing. Now, we've soon blood on Alex's face without him being dead, so it doesn't mean Brian died. But just because Tim survived his encounter doesn't mean Brian did. That being said, we can be sure that all the maskies are people that Alex brought to this school.


I don't see any blood. I see some dirt, though.

BirdieJava wrote:


This entry happened in 2006, before Alex or any of the other Marble Hornets (the youtube series we are watching) should rightfully have HD equipment.


Pretty sure someone stated earlier in the thread that Troy confirmed it was shot with the same camera as season 1.

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VincentPain
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Ramblings. TLDR won't offend me.

It seems to me like the further we get in the series, the more it looks like Slendy can only directly interact with Alex.

Yes, it seems that he has shown up around other people, but from what I recall, Alex is the only one who's had any direct interaction where TO does something other than stand/walk around ominously and scare the shit out of people. The exception would seem to be when TO "eats" Bruce, but the idea that it was Slendy who made him disappear looks more like an assumption when you look at it this way: Slendy could be the physical (or metaphysical) manifestation, a kind of half-real metaphor for Alex or his "seed of insanity" or whatever you want to call it. That is to say that Alex and TO may be one and the same, through some strange metaphysical connection.

It also seems like the motives of each character are relatively trivial so far. Revenge, curiosity, fear, insanity... the fact that there doesn't appear to be a larger plan at this point (something that isn't trivial) supports the idea above, though it doesn't confirm it by any means.

This idea would explain the way Slendy behaves, and the connection that Alex obviously has with him. The only things missing would probably explain the entire series by answering two questions:

1: WHY. I.e. what is Slendy trying to accomplish / what's his motive?

2: HOW. I.e. how is the The Operator causing/connected to the things going on, such as the memory loss, film distortion, and teleportation?

But no matter what your theory is, until those two questions are truly answered, Troy's going to have us totally clueless.

Cue 52.

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zhende
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Re: theory

jenni42ld wrote:
This is a theory about Alex's motives.
So Slendy is around various times during Alex's life. Also during his life, Blair Witch comes out. Alex thinks "hey, I have an eldritch horror hanging around in my backyard, i could make something WAY better than that!" So he conceives of Marble Hornets. But that's just an excuse. He has filming going on constantly, because the REAL movie is about the cast being terrorized during filming. Now Alex is an ass, and he is deliberately subjecting his friends to this. But he's not evil, this just turns out to be a really terrible idea. Alex has never seen anyone hurt by Slendy before.
So filming is going on, and Slendy starts thinking that Alex has put together a nice buffet for him. Alex realizes how bad of an idea this is and tries to stop feeding Slendy. This is when Slendy comes in the night and Alex has that head wound. Alex has been providing snacks, then stops, and so becomes a snack. And then realizes that he must continue. So he sacrifices all of his friends and runs, hoping to get far enough away while Slendy is feeding to escape. It works.
Until Tim is all "hell no you're not getting away that easily!" And plants the camera that leads Slendy back to Alex. Slendy thinks "hey, it's my caterer! And a snack!" And he takes Amy. Now Alex is not actually concerned about getting her back. He knows where she is, or that she's gone. But he has got to start feeding people to Slendy again so he can escape again, and this time there must be no survivors to drag him back in.
I'm going with Slendy is some sort of supernatural predator, and he feeds on memories. Memories inform a lot of who you are and how you think. So slendy usually eats yyour memories of him, so he can keep preying on you. So taking Brian (and presumably Tim) out to an abandoned maze-like place is like stocking the fridge with snacks. If Slendy eats enough, theyshouln't be able to get away, staying out there and brain dead and dying from exposure. And while Slendy is consuming memories, he's distracted. Perfect time to get away.
Yeah, not too much evidence for all this, but it came to mind and made sense. Also pls forgive typos. I'm posting from my phone.


I agree. It's been hinted that Slendy has been following Alex since he was a kid, so.. yea. I think you were making this point anyway Smile

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ieisuk
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@OffesetServbot: It was B-roll. He probably hadn't looked at it yet.

As for my current over the top spec that still needs some sort of confirmation video, I'm now 100% in the Alex IS the ark. This working under the ark as a vessel idea. Alex has been a vessel through which slendy can interact with the with the real world. The problem is that with this first recorded contact, Alex grew scared of what was going on around him. Slendy had to become aggresive in order to keep some control. My guess is that the encounter Alex had wit TO in the woods this season was Alex giving in because he couldn't handle the stress or guilty of what "he'd" done. This also assumes that Alex blacks out in slendy mode thus why he wouldn't completely know what was going on at the time. The help me video was probably sent by TO through Alex (assuming that Alex wouldn't put TO's symble like that) knowing that Jay would lead Tim and Co to the ark so that he can get rid of survivors that somehow remember the events. So a slendy Alex goes the house Jay would go to knowing Tim would be there. Slendy Alex attacks Tim and then J and Alex leave. Soon after I believe Alex comes back in control and tells Jay to stay low. Past that Alex gave into Slendy and the events of season 2 happen.

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Mariolee
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BirdieJava wrote:
mods4fun wrote:
Mariolee wrote:
Edit: If it's from Marble Hornets, why is it in HD?

Mariolee wrote:
So, we ever get an explanation for the HD switch?

Why is it such a big surprise that this entry is in HD? The entire season has been in 720p.


Because it makes no sense for Marble Hornets, the student film by Alex to be filmed in a camera that wasn't used for the rest of the film.

Think about it this way, we can accept the middle of the Wizard of Oz being in color while the scenes in Kansas are in sepia tones. If say, Citizen Kane or were to jump from colorized to black and white or Casablanca started out as a silent film and suddenly became a talkie.

This entry happened in 2006, before Alex or any of the other Marble Hornets (the youtube series we are watching) should rightfully have HD equipment.

On a different note, do Tim's recent appearances (especially in Entry 50) feel a little gratuitous, like Troseph is trying to say "Look, Tim's still in the production" rather that being important to the plot (granted it might only seem as such at the moment only to be revealed important later.)


Yes, exactly! So has Troy or Jay reported back on this front yet. I don't want to create a twitter just to ask him one question.

Also, I'm almost positive Tim's appearances have a reason. In fact, I'm starting to think he was the one who filmed noentry. Boom. I just blew your mind.

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I would not be surprised if Alex gave Jay the tapes (without this one of course) to make it look as if he was the victim in all of this.

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BirdieJava wrote:
Because it makes no sense for Marble Hornets, the student film by Alex to be filmed in a camera that wasn't used for the rest of the film.


I know it's Unfiction tradition to overanalyze everything, but I think most of us have already invoked the MST3K mantra on this one. It's not as if they replaced a Darren or asked us to accept Valley speak in a pre-revolutionary Chinese setting, or digitally inserted a Spongebob shirt...

BirdieJava wrote:
On a different note, do Tim's recent appearances (especially in Entry 50) feel a little gratuitous, like Troseph is trying to say "Look, Tim's still in the production" rather that being important to the plot (granted it might only seem as such at the moment only to be revealed important later.)


It doesn't look gratuitous to me. It looks like he's not a primary character in these entries but a means to an end or a tool for suggestion. Here in #51, his appearance makes this look all the more like a set-up of Brian, rather than an excursion gone wrong (e.g. Seth). In #50, if they only needed Jay to find the tunnel, there was no need to include the Masky chase, which suggests there's a reason he was there and that the chase led to the tunnel.

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ieisuk
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Mariolee wrote:


Also, I'm almost positive Tim's appearances have a reason. In fact, I'm starting to think he was the one who filmed noentry. Boom. I just blew your mind.


Sorry, but which one is noentry, I just did a quick search for it so I'd remember what one but can't find it on either channel :/

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BirdieJava wrote:

Because it makes no sense for Marble Hornets, the student film by Alex to be filmed in a camera that wasn't used for the rest of the film.

Think about it this way, we can accept the middle of the Wizard of Oz being in color while the scenes in Kansas are in sepia tones. If say, Citizen Kane or were to jump from colorized to black and white or Casablanca started out as a silent film and suddenly became a talkie.

This entry happened in 2006, before Alex or any of the other Marble Hornets (the youtube series we are watching) should rightfully have HD equipment.


Actually, it really doesn't matter at all and it really makes no difference.

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First post! I've been a lurker for a while, but I created an account just because I wanted to do so before season 3 kicked off, and I've got a feeling it will soon Very Happy

I don't have too many theories right now, honestly. I'm playing with the idea that Brian isn't dead--the way Tim seemed to be being held there seemed to imply that the big O doesn't eat his victims so much as feed off their life force/memory/chakra or what have you, hence Alex having to keep them alive and knowing for a fact that Amy is still alive.

If this is so, then it makes me think that Alex was trying to lead Jay there as well, but never succeeded, or managed to (temporarily) shuck the Operator's influence and give time for the memorywipe that occurred.

Emotionally, this entry takes me in two different directions: one is "Oh my God, they have no idea what they're doing they're retconning and everything is going to turn into a big tangled mess hrnghrnrgh" and the other is "This is brilliant! The plot is becoming deeper and deeper in a way that everything will work out even though I don't know how yet!" and I'm not sure what's making me think these things, but I hope it's the latter that's true and not the former...

Wow, posting my own "theory". Feels kind of strange. Laughing

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