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[VIDEO] Entry #51
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BeastNoob
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 		I got in on the 3rd page and then went to bed cus I had to get up early and when I checked it in the morning it was already to 20 pages :O

Anyways, after having some time to think adn read and think I've formulated an idea that I don't think has been mentioned but I didn't check every single page.

I think that entry 14 marks the point when the operator puts his control over Alex.

Clearly Alex purposely kept this tape from Jay so it leads me to believe that he kept certain tapes from Jay that incriminated him. But some people have been saying that Alex has been under Slendy's influence all along but I think that the first few entries show that he wassn't. Like when he's chasing op down in 4 and when he freaks out and runs away when he sees Slenderman in 13. Those reactions seemed natural as if he was truly frightened. But in 14 Slendy sneaks in and then does something to Alex which causes him to be under his control but also causes his head to bleed.

Then again, I don't think Troseph was thinking that far ahead that early on. But I think it would be cool if they came up with an explanation for the blood and that could be one.

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BeastNoob wrote:
Clearly Alex purposely kept this tape from Alex


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 		[SPEC] Entry 51 General Speculations
Okay, so, just watched Entry 51 and here we go with some good ol' speculation.

So we've long attributed coughing to 'Slender sickness'. In this video we're introduced to a burnt down doctor's office. Now, it doesn't take that big a leap to realize that fire = smoke inhalation = coughing.
We also get some of the worst video distortion ever in this video, so it's most likely a 'stronghold' for our Operator (this is backed up by the appearance of a very sick Tim and the dramatic appearances of Slender).
It's my theory that the Operator uses this office to 'store' the people he takes away, maybe to convert them if Slender Sickness seems to be what it, well, seems to be.

As for who drags Brian off screen. I assume this to be Alex, though it is difficult to tell since we don't see either his OR Tim's shoes, so it could be either one. Why do I think it's Alex? We have seen Alex in similar trances before, while Tim always seems more hysteric.

Now, as for the time line. To me this is quite obviously the second or third time Alex encounters Slenderman (after the 'stranger in the distance' episode and maybe one other). I assume this because of Alex's behavior. He's a lot less paranoid here, even assuring Brian that 'it's fine' when Brian wants to leave. He also turns off the camera a few times, notably after Brian's coughing fit. How do I know this isn't editing?

After Brian's coughing fit, it cuts out and when it comes back it's immediately with 'I'm rolling'. The cut before that ended on silence, making me think that Alex turned off the camera (on a tripod at that point) before going to check on Brian. If Jay was editing, I doubt he would have cut it in so soon.

This means that we can account for three of the Marble Hornet cast, all in the same place at the same time.

OH, suddenly got another idea. It's a doctor's office and these people are 'Slender SICK'. It may be irrelevant but it struck me as ironic at least.

So now we can account for:
Alex x
Brian x
Tim x
Seth
Sarah
Jay

Seth is apparently the first to get ill, as early on Alex makes the remark that Seth is sick and not showing up to filming, when the rest of the cast can be accounted for. This, however, seems to be after entry 51 unless my mind isn't treating the timelines right.

So I believe that Tim was actually the first to get sick, as we can sit him in quite bad shape in this video. If so, his apparent seizure condition may be a later stage of the sickness.

You can also note that Alex is not quite as irritable in this entry as he is in others, so it's an early one. This irritability seemed to be common amongst those targeted by Slenderman. It could simply be stress or another symptom. If we assume the latter, we can also assume that Tim becoming Masky is directly related to that.

We might also think that Tim was used as bait to lure Brian.

Then where was Alex?

It may have already been speculated after entry... forty-nine? (the one where an angry Alex is seen with Slenderman behind him) that Alex is in on this whole thing. If so, then Tim being the bait would make Alex the hunter.

So, some overall theories:

1. Alex is trying to lure Slenderman, either to 'tame' him or to save himself by sacrificing others.
2. Alex is being used by Slenderman.
3. Masky/Hoody are possibly in the final stages of slender sickness, which seems to effect people slightly differently.

That's all I can think of right now. Please do be gentle as this post is mostly me typing my ideas without any coherent link between them all. xD

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 		We already have a thread for Entry 51.

ModEdit (Zarggg): This post and the one immediately preceding it were originally in a stand-alone thread which was merged into this one.

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Randoman96 wrote:
>Brian shown being dragged into a room, presumably after being attacked by The Operator
>Alex walks out and leaves like a boss
Unfiction: No no guys, obviously Brian is still alive. If he were dead, it would mean my pet theory is wrong!


Okay, but explain why Brian would die and Tim walk away (relatively) unharmed. Brian and Tim were in similar situations, and if Brian was the only one to die, and Alex just let Tim go, then it wouldn't make quite as much sense.

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 		So after watching this a couple times and combing over Entry 7..

*Brian likes to laugh...a lot. At nothing. And he really enjoys unfolding tripods. "It's Tripod Time!"

*Slendy stands parallel to Brian in both entries. I don't think I've seen him do that to anyone else.

*After Slendy and Brian's photo-opp there's a weird noise. 90% sure there's something to this, either a hidden message or a clip of someone drowning. (wasn't TTA drowning Alex a symbolic element of this season's early TTA videos?)

*When Brian is running through the broken glass(?) I thought I heard a ghostly "shut your mouth". Probably imagination.

*When Brian sees Slendy in the doorway, there's an orange distorty frame that pops up. I think I've seen this in a TTA video before. It could be nothing, but it lasts for longer than I'd think it should.

*Speaking of old stuff, did we ever figure out what the "Briannnn, Alllllllllex" audio came from/meant? I forgot.

*Alex is agitated, but not psycho yet. I think it might be that he just hates working with Brian ("...good take.") and at this point is just scared of Slendy and likes to run when he pops up.

*What if Alex's story about Seth is true and they really went up there the previous day and just left once he started feeling (Slender?)sick?
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

OOG, IIRC Seth was Sarah's boyfriend and they just used him for one entry like an extra. So writing him out and just showing lots of Brian doesn't seem too far-fetched to me.
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tl;dr: I loved this entry, felt like i was watching season 1. Hope Season 3 is this good.

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czaaaaaa wrote:
What if the coughing was a side effect from some kind of asbestos poisoning from being holed up in that building for some time.

also, if Alex has been a motherfucker since the beginning it brings me to mind the Entry where O-town walks into Alex's room and a half hour later we see blood on Alex's face. Could it explain the disappearance of Rocky the Dog?


I'm REALLY liking this idea a lot: the whole idea of "memory: wiped" has been shown time and time again, who's to say anyone who hacked up a lung hadn't been to this place recently/frequently and didn't know it?

Also, that distorted image of slendy has kinda a anaglyph(3D) look that we've seen in a few TTA videos before (Signal and Broadcast).

Furthermore, holy shit: there's now 3 ongoing stories going on at the same time in Marble Hornets (the events from the tapes, the 7 Month Gap, and Current setting) Shocked

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MesserTod wrote:
Randoman96 wrote:
>Brian shown being dragged into a room, presumably after being attacked by The Operator
>Alex walks out and leaves like a boss
Unfiction: No no guys, obviously Brian is still alive. If he were dead, it would mean my pet theory is wrong!


Okay, but explain why Brian would die and Tim walk away (relatively) unharmed. Brian and Tim were in similar situations, and if Brian was the only one to die, and Alex just let Tim go, then it wouldn't make quite as much sense.


Well we don't need to explain exactly HOW Tim got away--THAT he did is undeniable. So I don't think Tim's escape really has any bearing on whether Brian survived. The Operator may have decided to just go for Brian for some reason we'd never figure out -- "His ways are not our ways", after all.

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 		ok! finely have read the thread and I have one thing to say....
What was the thing they need to shoot with?
...Wait...
WAS IT BRIAN??!!

I agree with most of what's being said here except one thing.
I don't think they are slender snacks...that's just dumb. lulz.
I think our Dark evil business man has more diabolical means in mind.

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dunkmeinariver wrote:
when brian is just standing there staring at the wall, it reminds me of ferris bueller's day off


The scene showing his friend looking at the painting? I thought the exact same thing.

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 		I don't know if anyone's said this, but I read someone pointing out that Alex was being controlled a lot longer than we expected, so I'll be the first to say it (if nobody else has):

ALEX HAS BEEN BEING CONTROLLED SINCE HIS CHILDHOOD BIRTHDAY PARTY!!!!111




j/k

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dunkmeinariver wrote:
when brian is just standing there staring at the wall, it reminds me of ferris bueller's day off


Yes, this.

It was such an amazingly cliche 'this is an artsy indie movie about feelings' move, it was pure hilarity. How could one Entry simultaneously make me laugh and break my brain?

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 		You know, it just occurred to me that this would be a really, really good time for a TTA entry to get the Masky perspective on all of this.

Wild Guessing: Maybe Entry 29 is part of Tim's escape and part of someone else's discovery of the scene of the Bruce? Or maybe something to do with Alex/Oppy omnomnomnoming Brian? Kind of a sloppy idea, but I was half-asleep when I thought of it.

Mr_Magpie wrote:
How could one Entry simultaneously make me laugh and break my brain?


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Sylocat wrote:
1. The "Operator/Hospital" link is interesting, but am I alone in thinking that his name refers to a CAMERA Operator? It would go towards explaining his apparent link to cameras (Alex thought that burning the tapes would stop him, and he only returned to Alex's life when Amy found the camera)


Oh my! INTERESTING!!! Technology does seem to have a strange relationship to TO. This thought of yours has planted many seeds in my brain.

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MiyokoKasumi wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been posted, but is anyone else reminded of Entry 13 where the Operator has his head tilted toward what looks like a door when Alex has Brian stand with his head against a door?


!!!

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