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[VIDEO] Entry #51
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McGregor
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Ok, I'm a little late on everything and only got through about 15 pages on this thread, so sorry if some of these things have already been noted.

In the beginning of the entry, Alex says that him and Seth went out there the day before, and Seth couldn't make it that day because he "wasn't feeling too good." It seems as though Alex is referring to the events of entry 22. Now if that is true, then why does Alex refer to him and Seth being the only ones left if Brian is not "gone" yet?

Alex could have just been lying, and I can be over thinking this. Any thoughts?

I've always been in the Brian=Hoody camp, and this entry makes me think that more then ever. I think that Alex unsuccessfully killed them both, and that's why they want to kill him so badly. Being exposed to the operator would allow them to know the extent of the its powers, which is why they both ran away in entry 45.

Also, I like the idea that Alex gave Jay certain tapes to make it look as if Alex was the victim in all of this. Who's to say Alex doesn't have other tapes stashed somewhere with evidence of his betrayals.

Also, also, it is possible that they could have filmed this with an older camera, but Troy just rendered it in HD quality. Either way, great entry.

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McGregor wrote:


In the beginning of the entry, Alex says that him and Seth went out there the day before, and Seth couldn't make it that day because he "wasn't feeling too good." It seems as though Alex is referring to the events of entry 22. Now if that is true, then why does Alex refer to him and Seth being the only ones left if Brian is not "gone" yet?



or, possibly, seth was actually sick and alex was telling the truth for once in this entry, and the events of 22 happened afterwards.

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Someone asked for a screen cap of the big block of distortion that occurs in this entry. There's 2 images that I was able to capture, fraid nothing too exciting and I couldn't find anything interesting about them. The distortion is just real time distortion of the actual video being taken.

For sake of completeness, here they are anyway.

1st frame

<a>Photobucket</a>

2nd frame

<a>Photobucket</a>
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mokie wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
Is the Big Twist going to be that the Operator isn't so bad after all, and Alex's Dark Half is the real baddie?


So big camera freak-out in the tunnel was a Big No over Bruce?

I don't buy it, but I like the mental image. Smile

Like I said, the only one he's actually "erased" that we know of is Bruce... and Bruce was already dead.


ArynnOctavia wrote:
Sylocat wrote:
1. The "Operator/Hospital" link is interesting, but am I alone in thinking that his name refers to a CAMERA Operator? It would go towards explaining his apparent link to cameras (Alex thought that burning the tapes would stop him, and he only returned to Alex's life when Amy found the camera)


Oh my! INTERESTING!!! Technology does seem to have a strange relationship to TO. This thought of yours has planted many seeds in my brain.

You're welcome. His connection to cameras had already been pretty well-established by Entry #26.

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A few things to note:


the numbers on the train tracks in the very beginning



is there a point to him just standing there...?



after he leans his head against the door is when he first starts coughing. correlation maybe?



X on the wall



And, finally, is there any meaning to "56-42"?

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This has got me thinking. Maybe the Operator is Alex. We got some Fight Club shit going on.

That's just a "first-thing-that-comes-to-mind" theory; literally no evidence backing it up whatsoever but it'd be an interesting twist...not very plausible though.

Anywho holy fuck shit nipples this entry has me shaking.

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McGregor wrote:
Also, also, it is possible that they could have filmed this with an older camera, but Troy just rendered it in HD quality. Either way, great entry.
That's exactly what happened. Someone asked Troy.

Also, no one has questioned why Brian calls out for Alex, again, after seeing Tim, when the Operator is leaning around the frame quite visibly. It's strange Brian's reaction to the Operator is to call out to his friend Alex. I can't say anything for sure about this, yet.
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iFaux wrote:
This has got me thinking. Maybe the Operator is Alex. We got some Fight Club shit going on.

That's just a "first-thing-that-comes-to-mind" theory; literally no evidence backing it up whatsoever but it'd be an interesting twist...not very plausible though.

Anywho holy fuck shit nipples this entry has me shaking.


Holy shit! I hadn't thought of.that. But if so,why did he keep.this one? did he screw up or something?

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Are we positive that Alex was the one dragging Brian around? I don't remember them ever showing his shoes/pants before the scene where he grabs the camera...

My theory? Operator popped up, crap went down, Alex took off and Brian got knocked out. Brian goes looking for Alex, finds Tim, poop goes down and Tim escapes while Brian gets caught. Whoever is helping The Operator drags Brian into the room, grabs the camera and leaves.

Who is that person helping him? Jay.

Or not. I dunno.

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GreyGhost wrote:
Are we positive that Alex was the one dragging Brian around? I don't remember them ever showing his shoes/pants before the scene where he grabs the camera...

My theory? Operator popped up, crap went down, Alex took off and Brian got knocked out. Brian goes looking for Alex, finds Tim, poop goes down and Tim escapes while Brian gets caught. Whoever is helping The Operator drags Brian into the room, grabs the camera and leaves.

Who is that person helping him? Jay.

Or not. I dunno.


I don't think so, if we remember, Jay didn't really have a whole lot to do with MH when it was being made, he was just a distant friend of Alex and a last minute addition to help. The thought that Alex has an accomplice is an interesting thought, perhaps the members of TTA were at work here?

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Paul_Atreides wrote:

I don't think so, if we remember, Jay didn't really have a whole lot to do with MH when it was being made, he was just a distant friend of Alex and a last minute addition to help. The thought that Alex has an accomplice is an interesting thought, perhaps the members of TTA were at work here?


No, I thought it was that Jay had originally SAID that he was a friend who just was around once or twice, but then through viewing the footage, realized that he was much more involved than he remembered, scouting locations multiple times, being on set when filming, even being in Brian's living room (where they look at the picture, and Brian is "gone for snacks") when they are filming the discussion "that could be part of the dvd extras or something."

I dunno that Jay was originally helping Alex and/or The Operator as GreyGhost was suggesting, but I am pretty sure Jay originally saying he wasn't involved was not true, and him misremembering.
Side note to that - that could be why Jay wouldn't let Alex burn the tapes. He couldn't remember being involved with Marble Hornets, but some part of him didn't want to see his work go to waste, even if he didn't remember why?
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Not going to quote-pyramid the pics. 

kiwistar, I didn't get screen shots, but I was able to pause at the right time for the first distortion, at the train tracks. It was like yours--the same picture, with a band just shifted and discolored.  

viragogirl, here's what I think.   
- The first is just an Alex-being-artsy-and-deep kind of shot (and possibly a little bit of trolling by Troseph).  

- The second could easily be more pretentious film fare, put there to be humorous. I know I laughed, and a few other commenters here did too. There's another possibility, though, and it ties in with your third pic. Alex's shots in the hospital all seem to put Brian in a vulnerable position: walking down the hall and passing open doorways, facing the wall, and finally, facing the door with his head down. By the third, Brian seems considerably more nervous; at one point he turns around and checks behind him. Even if he's not consciously thinking it, that little action shows that he doesn't fully trust Alex to, quite literally, watch his back. So I wonder if Alex set ALL those shots up to give The Operator a chance to move in, hoping he'd catch it on camera. Why else would Alex film Brian fiddling with the tripod? 

- The third, well, I have no idea if there's a correlation between the actual head tilt and Brian's cough. I'm more inclined (heh) to believe the head tilt was to limit Brian's field of vision, thus keeping him oblivious to The Operator's approach. Maybe Alex tried that because The Operator hadn't moved in earlier when Brian would be able to see him coming. Alex was simply fiddling with conditions to get the real shot he wanted.

- As for the fourth, could someone enhance that to see if we get a circle, please? I'd fiddle with it but I'm stuck on my phone today. 

- And the last, we just don't know. My guess is it's numbered according to Jay's organizational system so it would look like one of his.
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kiwistar wrote:
Someone asked for a screen cap of the big block of distortion that occurs in this entry. There's 2 images that I was able to capture, fraid nothing too exciting and I couldn't find anything interesting about them. The distortion is just real time distortion of the actual video being taken.


That was me making that request. As Tijde mentions above, the very first incidence of this happens around the 1:05 mark, and it's the same kind of distortion. No hidden image, just a hue/contrast warped version of the footage on screen at the time.

tijde wrote:
There's another possibility, though, and it ties in with your third pic. Alex's shots in the hospital all seem to put Brian in a vulnerable position: walking down the hall and passing open doorways, facing the wall, and finally, facing the door with his head down. ... So I wonder if Alex set ALL those shots up to give The Operator a chance to move in, hoping he'd catch it on camera. Why else would Alex film Brian fiddling with the tripod?

I'm more inclined (heh) to believe the head tilt was to limit Brian's field of vision, thus keeping him oblivious to The Operator's approach. Maybe Alex tried that because The Operator hadn't moved in earlier when Brian would be able to see him coming. Alex was simply fiddling with conditions to get the real shot he wanted.


This was my thought as well. Setting Brian up for the kill.
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Does anyone else remember TTA's response, "Indicator"? IIRC, the binary at the end of the video translated to "HE LIES".

$20.01 says that Alex was lying at the end of Entry #22.
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First we have the funny caption between Slenderman and Brian which made like me laugh. Il ike the Slenderman very Grudge like jump course how Brian is just posing there is weird. How like Tim randomly get in the place and was he really curled up in a blanket. I guess those who do not get snack food become snack food there. I wonder if said tripod was left behind or where the burned place was. I will be waiting for the new tta video course we could get end of month fun.

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