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MascaraSnake
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SecretPerson wrote:
Does anyone else remember TTA's response, "Indicator"? IIRC, the binary at the end of the video translated to "HE LIES".

$20.01 says that Alex was lying at the end of Entry #22.

Then why didn't TTA say this right after #22 was posted? I think Indicator is more of a "Alex lies all the time, man!" than a "Alex lied in that one particular entry!". I'm not ruling out that the whole of #22, including "Everyone's gone", was set up by Alex, but I don't think Indicator is a, well, indicator for that.

And I'm still puzzled by the difference in Alex's behavior between #22 and #51. If Alex was setting up a Slendy trap in both cases, then why is he acting like his normal self in #22 and like Slenderized, emotionally distant Alex in #51?

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VincentPain
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 		Once again, for the sake of being thorough, I ran the audio through Spek. There doesn't appear to be anything interesting, although I was kind of hoping I'd get something right around the 5:30 mark or so. Oh, well. I'll run the smaller segments myself to make sure.

Let me know if you see something here that I missed.
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SecretPerson
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MascaraSnake wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:
Does anyone else remember TTA's response, "Indicator"? IIRC, the binary at the end of the video translated to "HE LIES".

$20.01 says that Alex was lying at the end of Entry #22.

Then why didn't TTA say this right after #22 was posted? I think Indicator is more of a "Alex lies all the time, man!" than a "Alex lied in that one particular entry!". I'm not ruling out that the whole of #22, including "Everyone's gone", was set up by Alex, but I don't think Indicator is a, well, indicator for that.

I never said he only lied in Entry #22. I agree that he's a liar in general. As for TTA... that's TTA. You could wonder why he hasn't just given all of the answers to us yet.

MascaraSnake wrote:
And I'm still puzzled by the difference in Alex's behavior between #22 and #51. If Alex was setting up a Slendy trap in both cases, then why is he acting like his normal self in #22 and like Slenderized, emotionally distant Alex in #51?

What's so Slendy about Alex in this entry? Even though he lured Brian into a trap, he wasn't even acting irritable.
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tijde
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There's another possibility, though, and it ties in with your third pic. Alex's shots in the hospital all seem to put Brian in a vulnerable position: walking down the hall and passing open doorways, facing the wall, and finally, facing the door with his head down. ... So I wonder if Alex set ALL those shots up to give The Operator a chance to move in, hoping he'd catch it on camera. Why else would Alex film Brian fiddling with the tripod?

I'm more inclined (heh) to believe the head tilt was to limit Brian's field of vision, thus keeping him oblivious to The Operator's approach. Maybe Alex tried that because The Operator hadn't moved in earlier when Brian would be able to see him coming. Alex was simply fiddling with conditions to get the real shot he wanted.


This was my thought as well. Setting Brian up for the kill.

Yeah. I'm having a hard time deciding if Alex was being nefarious the whole time, or if it just feels that way in light of #49. Either way, it makes for great suspense.

The cough throws a wrench in the works a bit too. Was Brian uneasy due to (a) Alex's behavior and weirdness, (b) the vulnerable shots, (c) the general awkwardness of the pose and head tilt, (d) the creepy location and Slendervibes, or (e) sensing The Operator nearby? At least a little bit of (e) has to be in there, hence the cough. My gut says it's all of the above, but of course, we're seeing Alex in a vastly different light now. Hard to tell. (And can I just say that this is exactly why I love MH? Making me question even my own objectivity is why I'll probably be a fangirl no matter how the story plays out.)

On another note, I think a few people mentioned it in passing, but does Alex's speech sound different here? Kind of slurry, maybe? I've known a few Southern boys who sound really close to Typical Alex, with very similar accents and speech patterns. But it seems like he's annunciating less than usual, especially when they first get to the hospital. The B roll bit.
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Zebez
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SecretPerson wrote:

What's so Slendy about Alex in this entry? Even though he lured Brian into a trap, he wasn't even acting irritable.


He was kind of being a dick to Brian. Sighing when Brian was talking while walking or when he gets annoyed at Brian for daring to cough during his shoot. I think he was a bit irritable.

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Rather Dashing
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 		Two things I've read that I would like to respond to:

(1) That the Operator "erased" or whatever Bruce or anybody else. He seems to have teleported him, but MH entries are riddled with instances of teleportation. In each other case I can think of, they're not erased.

(2) Much of us suspect some sort of violence occurred, and with entry 49, it's only natural. However, he may have just been rendered unconscious by extreme operator proximity/sickness.

I could very easily be off on both points

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mokie
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 		Stray and only tangentially related thought: does Jay not film himself constantly anymore? He said he woke up to find the door open but nothing seemed missing--seems he'd have been able to roll back the security footage...

Anyhow, as you were.

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doodkurn
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 		Based off what I've seen/read, this is what I think is going on.

The Operator has been stalking Alex since he was six (entry 37)
Alex has been "feeding" The Operator for a long time, always moving location to hide. After being attacked in 14, he decides he can't run and needs to keep "feeding" him.
In this entry, we see how Alex feeds The Operator both Tim and Brian. I think The Operator makes them insane, or maybe they escape. Either way, we know Tim becomes Masky and I think Brian is Hoody. This explains why they're trying to kill Alex (entry 45).
In entry 50, Alex says he wants to show Jessica and J something, maybe he wants to sacrifice them to The Operator?

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GnomonRose
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 		Shadows; HD
Two leetle things.
The shadows on the track when Brian walks on the rail look elongated, like either The Operator (likely ref) or an El Greco figure (less likely ref).
Also, since the first season, YouTube has made it possible to submit longer videos (hi, #50!) and easier to post HD files; that is reason enough for this old footage (or pretended old footage) to be posted in HD.
I wonder if one day Troy will repost all of these in HD so it looks its best.
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Mariolee
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 		So yeah, another question being brought up is what exactly the Operator does with the victims Alex brings to him. It seems to be that Alex has so far brought Tim, Brian, Bruce, and possibly Amy to Slendy.

Half of them seem to have escaped and become totheark (Brian appears to be Hoody, but that's still speculation at this point), and the other half have been deemed missing, with Bruce being heavily implied as dead. What with the head smashing and all.

But now I wonder, if Alex hadn't have killed Bruce, and merely incapacitated him, what would Slendy have done. What does Slendy do? Why Alex? It's all still very mysterious.

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PsiichoBtch
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 		Doing a review of the firsts entries:

Has anybody noticed that in Entry 9 Tim's t-shirt has a Masky/Sad face masky printed on? There's something in the back too..

Is this place the same that 22's?

The painting in Entry 20: A forest on fire...is there an Operator symbol?

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 		We still have no idea who cool guy is but guess we never will this current season. I think Alex is up to no good with showing his weird thing in the forest place to let Jay and Jessica to see. Two boys and girl in forest sounding weird. Bruce is probably no more but you never know in this vlog course weirder things have be shown.

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NewInTown2
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 		Something I've been wondering about this tape...

Why would Alex carry it around? It could be that this is the only tape that proves he was in cahoots with Slendy all along but why wouldn't he just destroy it then? + If I was going to lure someone into my special best friends lair I would make sure to make as less footage of it as possible...

What if the guy dragging Brian away and filming his way out isn't Alex but someone else?

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sp103
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 		Alex is clearly the assistant to the operator. What is interesting is that Alex GAVE J these tapes (minus self shot footage and this latest entry). So Alex may not be trying to hide this stuff from J, but attempting to inform J via visuals of whats occurring with him and the Operator.

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Susil
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NewInTown2 wrote:
Something I've been wondering about this tape...

Why would Alex carry it around? It could be that this is the only tape that proves he was in cahoots with Slendy all along but why wouldn't he just destroy it then? + If I was going to lure someone into my special best friends lair I would make sure to make as less footage of it as possible...



Don't forget that this isn't the only tape from the original student filming days that didn't make it into Jay's posession before Alex left home.

So far the count of tapes missing from Jay's collection is 3: The tape left at the top of the red tower (which showed Alex and Seth in the pump room in #22); the tape that was in Alex's camera when Amy found it (assuming of course the distorted footage dates back that far and Alex is truthful when he says its from when he was a student); and thirdly this tape that Alex had in his room. What links these three, and why would they all be missing from the big bag Alex gave Jay three years before the start of MH? I'm at a bit of a loss to answer that, though. I wonder if there's something significant to the fact that even though these few tapes were originally held back, all ended up in Jay's hands eventually.

Typing-whilst-theorising time: Suppose Alex thought Jay might actually go ahead and burn the bag of tapes. If Jay had gone through with that, Alex would have been left with... what? A video of him and Brian at an abandoned building in the woods, a video of him and Seth in the pump house, and a mess of distorted footage. Hardly seems like a good record of the whole story. Though... what we do have is the closest thing to a record of the fate of at least some of the MH cast - we have the last known footage with Seth, what is quite likely the last footage of Brian and a sighting of Tim in full tramp mode. Is Alex maybe holding on to these so that if someone ever catches up with him to ask "what happened to Seth/Brian/Tim?" he has at least some sort of proof? Sort of like Alex knew when he left someone would begin to catch up with him, and he knew he would eventually have to show them these bits of footage? It might explain why that last tape was so prominent in Alex's room - perhaps he had been mulling it over, "do I give Jay this last - most incriminating - tape?" Then when Jay breaks in, Alex sees an opportunity to allow Jay to see it, without directly having to confess.

I just wonder if we might need to keep the jury out on the whole "Alex has totally been evil all along" thing... Don't forget that memory loss and people operating (heh) without concious knowledge is a big part of MH - Jay's midnight jaunts, anyone? It still feels to me that we're witnesses to Alex's descent into vicious slender-proxy more than witnesses to him as some Xanatos-style arch villain....

YMMV, of course.... Smile

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