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[Trailhead] Veil Nanoscience Inc.
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Zobot257
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 		Confirmation of what the recent Data Server 3 thing sent in my recent emails with Joseph Silva:

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J to Me: Your article was impressive, but I would be lying if I wasn't suspicious of you. You know more than you lead me to believe you know.

That research. It's no longer here. But now I get the sense that you probably know why. I don't know what your motives are, but consider this a warning. You don't know what I'm capable of. Or maybe you do. Either way, know that if you had any part in this, you will come to regret it.
That research he's talking about is, I'm pretty sure, the things Alec Veil was working on back during CBALtech.

Then, after I replied, he wrote this:

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J Silva to me

show details 9:13 PM (15 hours ago)

Eight years ago I brought this company out of its grave. Do you know why, Mr. Toboz? You do. I know you do.

That research was gone along with everything else. All of our data, all of our research. Just washed away, and it might have well never existed. We started over. 3,000 employees, some of the best minds in the world.

Eight years ago I lost everything.

So forgive me, Mr. Toboz, if now, when pictures of my desk with a business card that leads to my personal email archive held my a gloved hand...when letters that I had securely stored away in my office are taken and made public...forgive me if that doesn't make me wonder. If IRIS, these criminals, were behind this, when my company has done nothing wrong, I can only wonder if they were involved then.

So tell Mr. Toboz. What else of mine do you have in your possession? Beware of the skeletons you drag out. Your own could be revealed in the process.


So, uh, I think I've basically screwed up. Big time. At this point I'm not sure if Joseph Silva has anything to tell us, or just WON'T tell me. Either way, I'm sorry guys. I screwed up and now he's not gonna trust me at all.

I'm gonna just apologize and leave him be. If he wants to talk more, that's fine, but I don't really think I should push him.

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nichiera
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 		awesome thanks. i did not have that one

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Korinthian
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Zobot257 wrote:
Confirmation of what the recent Data Server 3 thing sent in my recent emails with Joseph Silva:

Quote:
J to Me: Your article was impressive, but I would be lying if I wasn't suspicious of you. You know more than you lead me to believe you know.

That research. It's no longer here. But now I get the sense that you probably know why. I don't know what your motives are, but consider this a warning. You don't know what I'm capable of. Or maybe you do. Either way, know that if you had any part in this, you will come to regret it.
That research he's talking about is, I'm pretty sure, the things Alec Veil was working on back during CBALtech.

Then, after I replied, he wrote this:

Quote:
J Silva to me

show details 9:13 PM (15 hours ago)

Eight years ago I brought this company out of its grave. Do you know why, Mr. Toboz? You do. I know you do.

That research was gone along with everything else. All of our data, all of our research. Just washed away, and it might have well never existed. We started over. 3,000 employees, some of the best minds in the world.

Eight years ago I lost everything.

So forgive me, Mr. Toboz, if now, when pictures of my desk with a business card that leads to my personal email archive held my a gloved hand...when letters that I had securely stored away in my office are taken and made public...forgive me if that doesn't make me wonder. If IRIS, these criminals, were behind this, when my company has done nothing wrong, I can only wonder if they were involved then.

So tell Mr. Toboz. What else of mine do you have in your possession? Beware of the skeletons you drag out. Your own could be revealed in the process.


So, uh, I think I've basically screwed up. Big time. At this point I'm not sure if Joseph Silva has anything to tell us, or just WON'T tell me. Either way, I'm sorry guys. I screwed up and now he's not gonna trust me at all.

I'm gonna just apologize and leave him be. If he wants to talk more, that's fine, but I don't really think I should push him.


You're apologizing, but I see no harm done. In fact, he's let on to quite a bit because of your emails. He sounds like a dangerous man. But, from what he's hinted at, it almost seems like IRIS is working for Veil, and has worked for him in the past - when he first left CBALtech.

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Gimme20dollaz
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 		Can someone make a wiki for all this information?

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Zobot257
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 		This whole thing still makes no sense. Who is IRIS working for? What data was left behind at CBALTech and where is it now? Where is Alec Veil? If hes still with Veil Nano then why does no one see him? And where do we send Theresa?

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Devarin
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 		Zobot, I have to with Kor on this one.

We now know that Silva is not a man to be trifled with, or has a pretty mean bark. The tone didn't really sound like bark, but more like someone who can and will back up what he says.

Also, I think we can assuredly say that the Chip 77 research is what was lost, the main objective. The rest was probably done to hide this fact. Smart move, if but a bit sloppy.

Suffice it to say that IRIS has to be/ have been working for Veil. Now, the only question is this: Are they still working for him, or are they under a different contract? What role are they playing now?

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Zobot257
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Devarin wrote:
Zobot, I have to with Kor on this one.

We now know that Silva is not a man to be trifled with, or has a pretty mean bark. The tone didn't really sound like bark, but more like someone who can and will back up what he says.

Also, I think we can assuredly say that the Chip 77 research is what was lost, the main objective. The rest was probably done to hide this fact. Smart move, if but a bit sloppy.

Suffice it to say that IRIS has to be/ have been working for Veil. Now, the only question is this: Are they still working for him, or are they under a different contract? What role are they playing now?


Yeaaaaaaaah I may have misjudged Silva a bit. Kiiinda thought he was more benevolent that he turned out to be. I'ma probably gonna back offa him. When you poke a beartrap once and it doesn't spring on you, that's usually a good time to stop poking more

I don't think he has the ability to help us further anyway.

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Devarin
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 		I think he does, it may take a bit of "coercion" if you get my drift.

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emato
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 		Timeline
Has anyone made a timeline with the letters from the drop? I know the letters were out of order, but reading them we can somewhat determine the order along with other info we know. Just wondering because if not, then I'm going to work on that as this is starting to get very confusing (for me).

If so, please point me to it.

Also, the thing with J. Silva -- don't worry. His reaction gives us great info, even if we may not completely understand it at the moment.

Remember THE trip to meet and all that .... we need to place that in between the letters and all the DS3 stuff we have received.

Sorry, I should say "I" need to do this, you all may already have this already in line. We do need to update the wiki. I don't know who has been doing it, but they have done a great job so far! But we need to update it, as the previous poster was looking for a wiki.

Ok -- I'll go back to lurking now ...
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Argal
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 		DS 3 Image Superimpoesd
Tried to make out the second image
RobGilliam wrote:
Can someone manipulate this latest image from DS3? There are some rectangular objects superimposed on the lower left quadrant that I cant make out.


I'm not image manipulation genius, but I could make out a little more of the secondary image. Maybe someone else can get it better.
The number on the bottom left capacitor looks like 47183 or 47182.
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 		It's a circuit board, maybe even a computer's motherboard.

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Devarin
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 		A wee bit quicker than I, Hush.

I don't know if I like those numbers. 62% success rate? What happens to the other 38%?

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Korinthian
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 		Well, some others got this email, too, but... well, look at this:

Theresa wrote:

It's gone. Something is gone. That note you got. About the 25th. I thought I had until then. But it's gone. Something very important. I've been looking every day...

It's just the company deflecting things away from them. Whatever they say. They'll try to blame it on everyone else but they know it's THEIR FAULT. Hope, Donald. Veil. I don't know what they're doing but they'll take everyone down with them. Don't trust anyone.

I need that file. I need the file. I need to find it now. On my own.


So I asked what was wrong, what was gone, and got this:

Theresa wrote:

Something needs to happen. Fast. Tuesday, I think we all need to talk. Get everyone together. Can you? 6 my time. Can you do it?


Time to use #IGCWC again.

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 		Just a thought; we can't binary-to-text as is, but we could try binary numeral conversions. We don't need 8 characters for that.

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