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 		Got a new email as of an hour ago, just had time to check it.

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Intueor apologises to all correspondents - we have been subject to an attack on our system. As such we had to disable the main ROM chips while the initialized memory locations were switched in on the same block of addresses - this caused a greater delay than expected.

We therefore go straight to the chase and appoint the first of the twelve guardians of the treasures.
Each guardian will be given a representational link of their treasure once all have been appointed.
All treasures need a guardian*.
It is possible for one person to be guardian of more than one treasure - however, each guardianship will be requiring of time and have a task assigned to it.
Please ensure you consider this before taking on the task if you are strong/brave/clever enough.

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We presume these coordinates will tell you enough to start: 55°51′40.42″N 4°14′36.45″W
From there it is a matter of understanding how useful a place name can be to determine which of the thirteen we talk of.
Once you understand, you will be able to determine that one of Shakespeare's similar characters can lead you to a poem with their last words in a play.
To confirm this task you will concoct your own poem/story/message reflecting this journey to be guardian of this first treasure.

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Welcome to Intueor...

VS 3.1


(The note marked off with the asterisk was to note that Intueor isn't sexist/racist, ect.)

The co-ords given are for the Livingstone Tower, in Glasgow, Scotland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livingstone_Tower.

From that Wikipedia link :
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The Livingstone Tower has a near identical twin in London. The former headquarters of UNISON at 1 Mabledon Place along Euston Road known as Unison House is almost identical in design, sharing the same hexagonal planform, although being of 10 stories high instead of 13, and is cladded in bare concrete instead of metal panels. Their striking similarities suggest that the two buildings are clearly the work of the same architect.


The reason that caught my attention is the following line of the email :
"From there it is a matter of understanding how useful a place name can be to determine which of the thirteen we talk of." While the Glasgow building has 13 floors, the Unison building is in London, which is a lot closer to where we were dealing with the previous games. I'm thinking the whole thing was a hint to push us towards the London building.

I haven't been following along the whole time, due to work and such, so I could be waaay off, but maybe the fact Glasgow has 13 stories, and Unison has 10 has something to do with one of the puzzles? Maybe there's something between the 11th and 13th floors of the Glasgow building that pertain to the game? Dunno. Just thinking.

Edit : I can't seem to find a floor listing for either building. Was looking to see which departments fall on each floor. I also found that the Glasgow building had an extension in 2000, adding a 14th floor.

Second edit : It appears that there's a 'Shakespeare Street' in Glasgow.


[Just a side note; I've been redoing portions of this post, due to originally writing it while half asleep. If anything seems to trip over it's self, please be patient, I'll sort it out. Example being where I got the numbers of floors for the Unison and Glasgow buildings mixed up. It's been corrected since, but was wrong for like an hour.]
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 		I think the 13 refers to the 13 treasures of Britain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_Treasures_of_the_Island_of_Britain

There's also a document linked on the second page of this thread with descriptions of these treasures.
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LatentMoths wrote:
I think the 13 refers to the 13 treasures of Britain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_Treasures_of_the_Island_of_Britain

There's also a document linked on the second page of this thread with descriptions of these treasures.


That very well may be the case. It does seem to fit with the theme. Though, it's strange that the building the co-ords are for (originally) has (had) 13 stories, but the email only mentions 12 treasures. This list (which I still think is what the email references) has 13 treasures. So, does this mean (assuming this list IS of the treasures we're being appointed guardians of) that one of these treasures is being withheld, or that a guardian has already been appointed prior to the start of this game? Maybe in Vladimir's possession?
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 		Alright, well, my line of thinking is a bit simpler, and therefore, probably wrong, haha. We know how much Vlad likes to come up with clever puzzles, so I'll continue poking around, but in the meantime:
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Vlad implies that the place name will indicate which of the 13 treasures he's referring to. Livingstone Tower, as far as I can tell, best corresponds to "Hogalen Tudwal Tutklyd," or The Whetstone of Tudwal Tutklyd. This relationship is shaky at best, which is what makes me think I've missed something. I'm looking through a list of Shakespearean characters to try to find someone similar to Livingstone, and will update if I find anything interesting.

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ironnikki wrote:
Alright, well, my line of thinking is a bit simpler, and therefore, probably wrong, haha. We know how much Vlad likes to come up with clever puzzles, so I'll continue poking around, but in the meantime:
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Vlad implies that the place name will indicate which of the 13 treasures he's referring to. Livingstone Tower, as far as I can tell, best corresponds to "Hogalen Tudwal Tutklyd," or The Whetstone of Tudwal Tutklyd. This relationship is shaky at best, which is what makes me think I've missed something. I'm looking through a list of Shakespearean characters to try to find someone similar to Livingstone, and will update if I find anything interesting.


Knowing how the PM likes to exploit our methods of thinking, a simpler idea may be the right answer in this case. I was also thinking maybe some of these treasures are featured (by different names?) in some of the literature used, and could potentially lead to places/names for other hints? I'm still hung up on "Once you understand, you will be able to determine that one of Shakespeare's similar characters can lead you to a poem with their last words in a play."

[Off the top of my head, the only time I know of a Shakespeare character mentioning a whetstone is when Malcom says,"Be this the, whetstone of your sword. Let grief convert to anger. Blunt not the heart, enrage it.", basically saying turn your sorrow in to anger, and use it as strength. I'm going to do some reading on that, though I could be totally off. Looking for his 'last words in a play', so iirc that's act five?]

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 		That's a good point; I was assuming that he was referring to a similarity between Livingstone and a character, but there could be a different relationship entirely. I've also stumbled upon something else: Tudwal was the ruler of what was later known as Strathclyde. Livingstone Tower houses part of the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow. I'm feeling a little more sure that we're talking about the whetstone, now, but that doesn't really help us as far as Shakespeare goes.
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ironnikki wrote:
That's a good point; I was assuming that he was referring to a similarity between Livingstone and a character, but there could be a different relationship entirely. I've also stumbled upon something else: Tudwal was the ruler of what was later known as Strathclyde. Livingstone Tower houses part of the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow. I'm feeling a little more sure that we're talking about the whetstone, now, but that doesn't really help us as far as Shakespeare goes.
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I edited my above post to include a thought about the Shakespeare line just moments before/after you replied. The Strathclyde point is a great find. Now it's just to decide whether the PM knew we'd go Wiki-hunting and find the building's twin and wanted to point us there, or if he wants us to focus on THAT building.

I'm still hunting around on my Shakespeare thought, I'll update shortly, but have work very soon. I believe the unforms are blocked on our computers (ALL forums seem to be), and my phone distorts the shit out of any and all forums, so I may be out of contact til 9pm EST. I WILL though, make note of anything I come across and update when I get home.
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ironnikki wrote:
That's a good point; I was assuming that he was referring to a similarity between Livingstone and a character, but there could be a different relationship entirely. I've also stumbled upon something else: Tudwal was the ruler of what was later known as Strathclyde. Livingstone Tower houses part of the University of Strathclyde in Glasgow. I'm feeling a little more sure that we're talking about the whetstone, now, but that doesn't really help us as far as Shakespeare goes.


Well, it does actually you see that would make him a
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Scottish King

Leading to
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Macbeth as the "similar king"

Whose last words were
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"Hold, enough!"

Which is a phrase from
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Keats' "Give Me Women, Wine, and Snuff "

GIVE me women, wine, and snuff
Untill I cry out "hold, enough!"
You may do so sans objection
Till the day of resurrection:
For, bless my beard, they aye shall be
My beloved Trinity.


I got to this via a slightly different starting point within the Strathclyde connection though
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 		Following my thought on Malcolm :
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MALCOLM:
We shall not spend a large expense of time
Before we reckon with your several loves,
And make us even with you. My thanes and kinsmen,
Henceforth be Earls, the first that ever Scotland
In such an honor named. What's more to do,
Which would be planted newly with the time,
As calling home our exiled friends abroad
That fled the snares of watchful tyranny,
Producing forth the cruel ministers
Of this dead butcher and his fiend-like queen,
Who, as 'tis thought, by self and violent hands
Took off her life; this, and what needful else
That calls upon us, by the grace of Grace
We will perform in measure, time, and place,
So thanks to all at once and to each one,
Whom we invite to see us crown'd at Scone.


If this IS the right direction, I assume that when Vlad says "To confirm this task you will concoct your own poem/story/message reflecting this journey to be guardian of this first treasure.", that to qualify for the first guardian position, we would be writing of the fall of a tyrant and a beginning of a new era and leadership. Again, this is all speculation.

@veebee : That's another good direction. I can't decide. I'm running on little sleep and rushing to get ready to get out the door, so I can't look to far in to either idea yet.

Edit : In reference to the 'Scone' mentioned in the MacBeth line; Scone Palace is located in Perthshire, not far from Dunsianane Hill, the location Malcolm prepared his assault on MacBeth's castle. Just figured I'd add that in for clarification. BIGTIME worth noting :
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For centuries the greatest treasure at Scone was the Stone of Scone upon which the early Kings of Scotland were crowned. When Edward I of England carried off the Stone of Scone to Westminster Abbey in 1296, the Coronation Chair that still stands in the abbey was specially made to fit over it.


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 		Good finds to both of you! I wonder about Vlad asking for something to confirm the journey, though: does he mean the figurative journey from the coordinates to the poem, or is there another journey of note in the poem or the play that he's referring to?
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ironnikki wrote:
Good finds to both of you! I wonder about Vlad asking for something to confirm the journey, though: does he mean the figurative journey from the coordinates to the poem, or is there another journey of note in the poem or the play that he's referring to?


One last post before I bail. I updated my previous post with a small tidbit about one of the locations mentioned in quote I posted. Also, I'm not quite sure. In MY opinion, I'd think he's referring to the journey Malcolm went through in MacBeth. But like I've said a few times, I'm going off of 100% pure speculation and hasty research. I could very well be missing the big point.

And, that prompted me to straight up ask Vlad about my theory. I replied to today's email saying, "While it may be a stretch to believe asking directly will be of any help here, is the character from Shakespeare's works you mention the one who prepared for war in Dunsinane?". I don't expect a response, but hell, stranger things have happened in the course of this PM's games.
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ironnikki wrote:
Good finds to both of you! I wonder about Vlad asking for something to confirm the journey, though: does he mean the figurative journey from the coordinates to the poem, or is there another journey of note in the poem or the play that he's referring to?


Thank you. The only problem is I stumbled accross another ruler of Strathclyde named
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Elidyr Mwynfawr


Which made me think we were looking at
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Kar Morgan Mwynfawr (the Mwynfawr means wealthy), and you would go on a journey in a chariot...... Yeah, I know, it's a pretty dodgy link..... Rolling Eyes

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veebee wrote:
ironnikki wrote:
Good finds to both of you! I wonder about Vlad asking for something to confirm the journey, though: does he mean the figurative journey from the coordinates to the poem, or is there another journey of note in the poem or the play that he's referring to?


Thank you. The only problem is I stumbled accross another ruler of Strathclyde named
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Elidyr Mwynfawr


Which made me think we were looking at
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Kar Morgan Mwynfawr (the Mwynfawr means wealthy), and you would go on a journey in a chariot...... Yeah, I know, it's a pretty dodgy link..... Rolling Eyes


I lied about the last post thing. Apparently my computer clock ended up 15 mins faster than all my others and I was rushing for nothing. Any way. Journey on a chariot? Sounds like one of the treasures.
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 		Hmm. I reckon ironnikki's link is stronger, but I've fired off a quick poem anyhoo Smile

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Elidyr Mwynfawr was strolling through Strathclyde,
He chanced upon a Chariot and took it for a ride.
He thought of Scottish kings and what they said before they died.
He shouted "Hold, enough!" out to a man by the roadside
"Give me women, wine and snuff!" The gentleman replied.


I know, it's naff and I'm sad. Nuff said Embarassed
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 		Vlad called for a group chat, a few of us were in there. Most notably, my theory was denounced, Veebee was close, but not with the MacBeth portion. It's a comedy we're looking for, not a tragedy. One of the treasures relates it. The Glasgow building 'points us in the direction' of the treasures, but not literally like a landmark facing a particular way. He noted the treasure is not in/at the building either. I saved a copy of the chat, if anyone wants me to pastebin it.

Considering he said Veebee was right, I'm assuming the chariot part is what we're looking for. But, I've been wrong a couple times already, and my multitasking skills are starting to die at the moment. He didn't say exactly that he was RIGHT, but he did say he was on the right track...kinda..

EDIT ::
ATTENTION! Make sure you save a log of your Chatzy posts. Due to us not being on the premium account for it right now, we can only view the most recent page. I didn't notice this when I logged the chat from tonight, and a big portion is missing. I'll still pastebin it in a moment, but if we keep using the free version, all old archives will be inaccessible!

As promised. Sorry it's not all of it : http://pastebin.com/0BBBwzjs
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