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AngryDeepground
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Jay is evolving

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Mariolee wrote:
ANYONE ELSE CATCH THE TYPO!?!?:

I'm not going to let him get away this anymore.

There should be a "with" between the away and this.

TROY HAS FAILED.

ANOTHER TYPO FOUND:

Since there's not other choice...

It should be "no other choice" or "not another choice"


Also, "had to of" instead of "had to have". Perhaps they left the typos in due to realism, though; not everyone has impeccable spelling and/or grammar.

To be honest, I found this entry really, really underwhelming. I thought we'd get more of an update on recent events. We don't even really know what happened in the hotel to make them lose their memories.

I liked that The Operator went after them, but... well, Alex is still an enigma. He could have killed them at any point before this, but he didn't, and even then he threatened Jay and Jessica with a gun instead of... well, The Operator.

I wonder where Entry 29 fits in.

I'm glad Tim's a good guy, though I've thought it since the middle of Season 2. I wonder if Jay's found the camera bag since he hid it.

I wonder how long the break between entries will be. Waiting and looking for Tim doesn't really seem like it'll be much of a long break to me.

Capercorn wrote:
I'm just going to throw this out there:

Tim and Masky are not the same person.

They occupy the same body, but they are two completely separate individuals. The mask is simply his face. When he takes off the mask, he's Tim.

Masky is trying to protect Tim, and the various masked persons are dedicated to protecting the original users of the bodies they occupy.

I believe that Brian survived the encounter in Entry 51, and Hoody exists to protect him.

I also cannot rule out that Jay has a masked component; one that we have yet to encounter.

The masks are obviously trying to protect society from Alex. However, they are powerless against the Operator.

I still believe that Alex is the victim in all of this; that he is not doing this of his own free will. I believe that he is the puppet and tool of the Operator.

I believe that Season 3 will end with them somehow stopping the Operator's reign of terror. Cell phone cameras need not apply.


Where would they have come from, though...? The Masks would make sense as separate entities if they were just a fragmented part of Tim's/Hoody's psyches.

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You have no idea how immensely happy I was after the whole masky thing to see that there was still like ten minutes left in the entry.

I'm thinking Slendy's showing up may have indicated that Alex is dead. It may have been him saying "YOU SON OF A BITCH!". I kinda think Slendy would've killed Jay if Jay didn't make the first move at him. Being the big, badass, malevolent thing, Slendy probably didn't expect Jay to lunge at him like that. It may be a sign that Slendy is weaker than before, now that he doesn't have the whole intimidation thing anymore over Jay.


Why would that indicate Alex is dead...? The Operator has shown up multiple times.

Personally, I think the gunshot was probably just a misfire. Someone shot it, but it didn't hit anyone.

tijde wrote:
I was totally waiting for Amy's corpse to be hanging out in the mill/attic thing. And what was with Jess's headache and coughing when she went to check in? Think she's just more sensitive to Masky exposure, or does that suggest she's been going through her own weirdness off-camera?


I definitely was expecting a corpse of some form in the mill. Not necessarily Amy's, but SOMEONE'S. Either that, or "the ark".

Jessica DID say she's had weirdness for a while, though her memories were wiped at the time...
I quite liked her acting in this entry.

Mariolee wrote:
No one's gonna talk about the teleportation with Jay?


What teleportation...? It looked to me like he got pulled down, not necessarily teleported, imo.

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AngryDeepground wrote:
It would have been awkward if Tim had seen Jay at the end of the video.


I just had the image of that scene in Pulp Fiction when Marsellus notices Bruce Willis while crossing the street.

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Gold Knight wrote:
Spades Slick wrote:
Guys, we aren't sure tim's on jay's side exactly.

we just know that he's against alex, which is a fact we've known for a while. If it was any other gun-toting maniac, he may very well have left it be.

Im not saying he's against jay, im just saying we can't be sure yet.

Yes, but as they say, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." While it wasn't clear before, now that Jay is against Alex, I think we can be sure that he is on the same side as Tim.

Did anyone notice how Jessica says she had a headache and coughed?
Isn't that Slendy-sickness? Exactly how this series began. Slendy-sickness.

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Gold Knight wrote:
Spades Slick wrote:
Guys, we aren't sure tim's on jay's side exactly.

we just know that he's against alex, which is a fact we've known for a while. If it was any other gun-toting maniac, he may very well have left it be.

Im not saying he's against jay, im just saying we can't be sure yet.

Yes, but as they say, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." While it wasn't clear before, now that Jay is against Alex, I think we can be sure that he is on the same side as Tim.


Honestly, I doubt there's just one side.

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@tjilde - re: Jessica coughing- I figured that was a sign that his Slenderness was nearby and would be attacking that night. (It was the first thing that popped into my head when I heard her cough and by God was I right!)

Okays, as for where Entry 29 fits in, several people have noticed that Jay is teleported out briefly towards the end on this entry. I think that's where Entry #29 may come from. Slendy teleports Jay to the woods. Jay runs for dear life because his memories have already been wiped by this point. Somehow, the Operator does not kill him at the end of 29 and he ends up in the hotel again.

And re: people complaining about no big revelations and/or no climax - Um, Alex pulling a gun and trying to shoot people/Jessica screaming, disappearing and Jay attacking Slendy definitely count as climaxes I think. And they are appropriate mid-climaxes since the series isn't done. We get a "oh, wow!" moment without everything being wrapped up. And it shouldn't be since we aren't done yet. Some questions should be answered (or moved along towards answering) but we definitely shouldn't know everything yet. And if we know everything by the end of the series I will actually be a little disappointed. One should not know everything about Eldritch Abominations.

And finally, take that EMH! Jay don't need no stinkin' baseball bat! Oh, Jay, you've grown so much as a character, I just wanna hug you! If only you would learn to proofread now (totally laughed at the typos). But this entry, soooo worth the wait.
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Wait a sec.
1102 were the last four digits of Jessica's phone number.
The only people around when they had this conversation were Jay and Jessica.
We know Jessica did not write down 1102, especially not with the 0 as the operator symbol, since it's obvious she would not forget the last four digits of her phone number.
So who wrote it (probably Tim(?)), more importantly why did they write it for Jay to discover, and MOST importantly, how did they know the code?

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Just some basic points:

A.) Slendy caused the 7 month gap, somehow.
B.) Jessica coughing with "slender sickness" maybe this contributed to her blackout?
C.) Tim put on some weight, boy!
D.) [meta] Alex is not dead, or we wouldn't have a S3.

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Blinus wrote:
AngryDeepground wrote:
It would have been awkward if Tim had seen Jay at the end of the video.


I just had the image of that scene in Pulp Fiction when Marsellus notices Bruce Willis while crossing the street.


Somebody make a video of this!

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AngryDeepground wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
Spades Slick wrote:
Guys, we aren't sure tim's on jay's side exactly.

we just know that he's against alex, which is a fact we've known for a while. If it was any other gun-toting maniac, he may very well have left it be.

Im not saying he's against jay, im just saying we can't be sure yet.

Yes, but as they say, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." While it wasn't clear before, now that Jay is against Alex, I think we can be sure that he is on the same side as Tim.


Honestly, I doubt there's just one side.


There are only two sides: The Operator and Delicious Humans.
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Spades Slick wrote:
Guys, we aren't sure tim's on jay's side exactly.

C'mon, Tim saved Jay and Jessica from certain death.
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I'm going to now attempt to start connecting the dots here. Anyone and everyone feel free to correct me or give your input and ideas.


Alex starts shooting Marble Hornets. The Operator begins to stalk and drive him insane, to the point that for whatever reason, he begins attempting to dispose of many members of the cast as sacrifices to the Operator.

Considering the fact that Alex moves away shortly after in an attempt to forget about everything, could it be that these sacrifices were done out of selfishness? Something along the lines of, if he sacrificed enough people, he would be free of the Operator's torment?


Jay instead gets the tapes, and we're lead to believe that Tim, Brian, and maybe even Seth are somehow still alive. Still alive and wanting to seek revenge on Alex.

Regarding Tim, Brian, and Seth—even though Seth may not be certain, I will simply refer to these two/three as TTA from this point on.

SPEC: TTA had their memories swiped, or at least SOMEHOW put the events that occurred behind them over the years after Alex's disappearance. However once Jay started interviewing Tim in an attempt to get a hold of Brian so he can get a hold of Alex—TTA's memories/motives returned. TTA sent Jay to Brian's house in order to be able to follow him back home and begin stalking Jay (in an attempt to learn more about Alex). There also may have been a motive in attacking Jay at the house and using other scare tactics. The attempt being to scare Jay out of furthering the investigation for his own safety.

Anyway,

TTA, seemingly, plants a camera in Alex/Amy's house and leads to Amy disappearing due to the Operator.

Jay and Alex finally reunite and TTA attempts to kill Alex there. Fails miserably, though.

From this point on, TTA, in his own psychopathic way, starts trying to help Jay. Returning his camera, attacking Alex, and also (even though it's just a theory), protects Jay from the Operator in that one TTA video. "Found you. forever."


We start getting on film confirmation that Alex is doing SOMETHING odd with the Operator, and shortly after TTA begins physically attacking Alex.

Jay starts becoming suspicious himself, and begins breaking in and stealing from Alex for answers. This leads to the reason why Jessica was brought into the mix.


Alex leads Jay into a forest in an attempt to seemingly kill him there and sacrifice him to the Operator. However, Jay's excuse about it getting dark and Jessica still being safe, but worried about Amy, convinced him that he will sacrifice the both of them instead.

Alex attempts to initiate his plans and TTA saves the day. Jay and Jessica run for safety at a hotel, but the Operator is angry. I suppose the Operator believes that if they are still alive, they can't know about Alex's bad behavior (as that would ruin many opportunities of Alex disposing of them in the future) and instead swipes their minds.

^ Actually, thinking about that, I'm inclined to believe that The Operator saved Alex back when Tim saved the two and swiped his mind as well. Maybe Alex was shot. Not dead, though.

Because of this, everyone's minds are swiped.

Jessica wakes up in the hotel and doesn't remember anything. She begins experiencing slendersickness.

Jay wakes up with the same situation as Jessica and looks for answers. Finds the tapes, and after leaving the hotel, reviews them all.

Jay figures out everything we know now and is looking to seek answers from Alex, wherever he may be.



Questions:
- When you look at the point of TTA's actions, they seem to want to help. So what's with the psychoticness?
- Did Alex actually sacrifice Amy? And all intentions to get help from Jay to find Amy have actually been secret motives to dispose of him as well? I can't see the motive in this, though.
- Does Alex feel inclined, for whatever reason, to dispose of anyone and everyone who gets involved? "Don't follow me... Don't follow me..." Not to mention he seemed pretty pissed that Jay got Jessica involved in #52, but definitely looks like he's going to shoot her after Jay.
- Jessica's initial disappearance several entries back. Was that The Operator teleporting her somewhere else in order to ruin the investigation?
- WHY DID TIM ATTACK JAY IN THE HOTEL? This is one question that I can never even come close to understanding. It's possible that it was done because he knew The Operator was in the hotel and wanted to rush Jay out of there, but I don't know..



This break down completely sucks, I know. I just wanted to blabber and ramble.
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SecretPerson wrote:
Spades Slick wrote:
Guys, we aren't sure tim's on jay's side exactly.

C'mon, Tim saved Jay and Jessica from certain death.


It's possible that Tim is on Tim's own side, but he also doesn't want to see unnecessary deaths.

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I also noticed a climax of a different kind, though I won't go into details.

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AngryDeepground wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
Spades Slick wrote:
Guys, we aren't sure tim's on jay's side exactly.

we just know that he's against alex, which is a fact we've known for a while. If it was any other gun-toting maniac, he may very well have left it be.

Im not saying he's against jay, im just saying we can't be sure yet.

Yes, but as they say, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." While it wasn't clear before, now that Jay is against Alex, I think we can be sure that he is on the same side as Tim.


Honestly, I doubt there's just one side.


Yeah, that was the point i was trying to make.

I'd theorize that The Operator more of a force of nature at this point than a sentient being, if that makes any sense, and both Alex and the Mask have been either trying to rid themselves of it or use it as a tool to reach their own purposes, whatever said purposes may be.

Really, that interests me almost as much as Hoodys identity, (mainly because im confident that he's brian.) because once we know either alex or tim's motivation, the entire series will begin making some goddamn sense.

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