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[Video] Entry #52
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Hermit
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Foood wrote:
The problem is, why would footage of Alex be found on Jay's computer? All of the chestcam stuff from the seven months was on the hard drive, which only quickly passes into Jay's hands before he puts it in the safe.


Jay didn't actually find noentry on his HD until a few weeks after he woke up in Entry 27. As for why it's on his laptop, it could have been placed there to put him on the right track ('look for local parks with Tunnels of Doom'). It's possible someone could have been in his room while he was out and copied it on for him to find. If so, my best guess would be Masky, as we know he was at the hotel.

Doesn't really solve who filmed it, though, nor how Masky (or whoever else) got the footage from Jay/Alex in the first place.

Edit for clarity.

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Ceejie
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You know what I always find really weird about Jay's commentary of these videos is, unless i've forgotten, he rarely if ever mentions the Operator. It's always "Alex is evil!" but rarely " OMG THAT THING AGAIN WHAT THE F IS THAT".
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Even in the video where he grapples with the Operator (whether by force via the Operator pulling him in or by choice lunging at it) he doesn't comment on 'dude the faceless freaky guy was all up ons'. Generally, the times he talks about it is if he's directly interacting with it (the video where he was hiding in the closet from it, and this video for example).


Likewise the characters seem to rarely if ever discuss that it exists. Is there some rule in Slenderman Mythos I am unaware of that states they can't talk about it ala Fight Club/Harry Potter, or is that just a Marble Hornets thing?

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Geneaux486
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He's mentioned it a few times. He refers to him as "a guy in a business suit" during the interview with Tim, he refers to it as "The figure from entry #1" and "someone" back before it becomes abundantly clear that it isn't human, and he refers to it as "that thing" when he meets it in the forest. I think the reason J acknowleges its existence so rarely is because he just doesn't want to think about it. Investigating Alex, dealing with Tim, finding Amy, these are things J can at least partially understand and deal with because they're human, but with the Operator all J can really do is hope that he doesn't do something to make it appear on his porch in the dead of night or creep into his room while he lies in bed unable to sleep.

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Damn, after rewatching 52, I think J did lunge at the Operator. I couldn't understand what he was yelling the first time around, but it sounds like "What do you want!?" and "Leave us alone!" I think he actually attacked that thing. 'Atta boy, J.


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My guess as to why he mentions the Operator so rarely is because of the fear instilled. He doesn't want to talk about him as the Operator is just that horrifying to him. Can you really blame him, though?
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Ceejie
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I *guess* that makes sense. I just figured there might be some reason I didn't catch onto that he was avoiding talking about it as much as possible. I mean I do realize that whole 'Bloody Mary' aspect of Slenderman to where if you don't talk about it you get to be blissfully unaware, but I wasn't sure if that is what was going on here and Jay was doing it intentionally or what..

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Yeah he definitely jumped him in my opinion, due to the angry screaming he was doing. I'm guessing he was getting to the point of 'screw you mannequin man! I just want a decent night's sleep, go eat Alex's corpse or something GAWD you are so annoying/creepy/stalkerish!'


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Blank_Zero
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For those of you wondering about the whole "Tim's not limping" thing...

You do know this season started in November of 2010 right? So Tim's leg has had an entire YEAR to heal, in-game.

Also, this whole time, other than the incident where Jay woke up to find his hotel door WIDE open, he's stayed out of trouble.

And one more thing, WHY DID IT TAKE ALMOST A YEAR TO CATCH UP ON 7 MONTHS!!! RAGE!!!

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Geneaux486
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Yeah, and it makes the bits of footage that follow it easier to decipher. Appears to be shots of J being jerked around in the air, followed by being slammed down against the wall and yanked away again. Maybe that combined with the Operator's usual influence is what caused the big memory loss. Also, it took longer in Marble Hornets for someone to nut up and rush that thing, but it was the most epic slenderman-attack I've seen.


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Cutboy
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Ceejie wrote:
You know what I always find really weird about Jay's commentary of these videos is, unless i've forgotten, he rarely if ever mentions the Operator. It's always "Alex is evil!" but rarely " OMG THAT THING AGAIN WHAT THE F IS THAT".
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Even in the video where he grapples with the Operator (whether by force via the Operator pulling him in or by choice lunging at it) he doesn't comment on 'dude the faceless freaky guy was all up ons'.
The only times he talks about it is if he's directly interacting with it (the video where he was hiding in the closet from it, and this video).

Likewise the characters seem to rarely if ever discuss that it exists. Is there some rule in Slenderman Mythos I am unaware of that states they can't talk about it ala Fight Club, or is that just a Marble Hornets thing?


i've always noticed that marble hornets is like that. i could probably count all the instances that jay or another character has directly said something about the operator on both hands.

it's like the operator is such an abomination that they can't even mention the encounters they've had with it, let alone directly address the operator. its usually been referred to as "that THING", and the only time its been referred to as a being is entry 2- "saw this really tall guy standing there". they act like its freakin lord voldemort or something, except for the characters don't even know a real formal name for it. (TTA however must know something about it though, a la "operator" video)

i thought it was pretty interesting though that in this video, jay actually straight up talks to him- "WHAT DO YOU WANT?? LEAVE US ALONE!!" and actually tries to attack him. i loved that.


about the people saying that jay teleported to the tunnel and made entry 29- although its entirely possible, and it kinda makes sense seeing that in 29 the person had a chestcam AND a normal camera, i think its just a little too far fetched seeing how short the amount of time was that the operator was whooping his butt in this entry. i just don't know about that theory.


i really think this was a great way to wrap up the season. to all the people saying that it didn't answer enough questions and that it probably isn't the season finale, it really doesn't have to answer many questions. i think you're forgetting that there is a season 3 coming up (i'm gonna throw in my speculation here and say that it will probably start late january or february). it left enough questions unanswered that i will still be completely into what happens in marble hornets when it starts back up again.


this was probably one of the best entries ever, i can't decide whether i like entry #23 or entry #52 more.

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czaaaaaa
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about the tree

we all know that the kids are kind of knowledgeable about different evil spirit warding apparatus' like Alex's Prayer Sheets he had on the walls in the entry where Slendy walks in and then Alex wakes up a half hour later with period drama blood on his head. So I guess it makes sense, that a kid in the know like Tim would have a evil spirit warding off alcoholic tree in his front yard too.

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Geneaux486
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The tree may have just already been like that, outside of the show. Abstract art, maybe?

EDIT: It'd be awesome if season 3 starts the exact same way season 2 did, J waking up in a strange room with no memory of the previous however many months, only instead of a long textual explanation we just get "Son of a bitch, it happened again."

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Ceejie
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I think the bottle tree is meant to be focused on, just because he looks at it for so long, and Tim is in the yard of the house with the bottle tree. Maybe Jay himself wasn't focusing on it, maybe he was just turning on his camera quickly and had it turned away from Tim so Tim wouldn't notice he was being recorded, but it seems to me that an object that captures evil spirits on the front lawn getting eight seconds of shot time is a bit too coincidental for Marble Hornets. Being from the south, they gotta know what that thing is, so it being in the shot accidentally for so long and them cutting to Tim standing in the yard of that specific house seems waaaaaaay too orchestrated to be on accident.

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Zebez
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Geneaux486 wrote:
The tree may have just already been like that, outside of the show. Abstract art, maybe?

EDIT: It'd be awesome if season 3 starts the exact same way season 2 did, J waking up in a strange room with no memory of the previous however many months, only instead of a long textual explanation we just get "Son of a bitch, it happened again."


FFFF I would really hope they wouldn't spend too long in the past. I mean now it's time in the present since we've spend so much of this season in the past.

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Lyni
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Geneaux486 wrote:
The tree may have just already been like that, outside of the show. Abstract art, maybe?

EDIT: It'd be awesome if season 3 starts the exact same way season 2 did, J waking up in a strange room with no memory of the previous however many months, only instead of a long textual explanation we just get "Son of a bitch, it happened again."

Considering that they're in/around Alabama, it's possible Tim's older relatives might have done that, and he picked it up as a potential ward against the Operator.

And that part would only be awesome if the next line was "... So I spent the last few weeks watching all the YouTube entries I posted, reading through my old tweets, and re-educating myself about WTF happened, and I'm caught up. Here we go with my new investigation." Razz

I noticed the bit about never directly mentioning what's up with that big dude in a business suit as well; it's probably a mixture of denial, brain not comprehending the awfulness (memory loss might just be a byproduct of Slendy's presence and not an overt power, like a brain overload thing), and not wanting to sound crazy. Like when Jessica finally blurted out that she'd been having memory loss and did Jay have that too, and he kind of waffled and said no - he was probably embarrassed and also too afraid to admit he was at that kind of disadvantage. Similarly with the Tim interview, Jay's just mentioning a guy in a suit was probably him trying to just feel out Tim to see if he saw anything odd about it.

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AcidicParadigm
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Alright, first-time poster, here. My little idea as to what is going on:

Alex is bringing people to The Operator in order to get rid of them for a certain purpose. The last person he gets rid of is Brian. Tim becomes aware of what Alex is doing after Seth has disappeared, and when Brian is brought to the demolished school, he follows the two. However, he was not preparing to witness TO, and is taken off-guard; he collapses and goes into Slendy-sickness, and Brian finds him. Brian is then taken by Slendy. Alex believes that Slendy has taken both, but somehow Tim escapes.

Tim becomes Masky in order to hide his identity and combat Alex secretely. If he is TTA, he is probably giving Jay information in order for Jay to find out about how unstable Alex truly is. Obviously, Tim cannot just go up to Jay and tell him that his friend is a psychopath, so he is trying to nudge Jay in the right direction in order to try to eventually help each other against Alex.

Alex tells Jay to meet him at the school, where Brian was taken. Tim is lying in wait to save Jay, his future partner, but Alex tries to officially take him out of the picture by breaking his leg. Due to all the action, Alex decided to not kill Jay at that time. In between then and Entry #52, Alex is just humoring Jay and trying to see if he can spare him by avoiding him. However, Jay persists and digs deeper into the mystery, showing Alex kill Bruce and lead Brian to his memory-wipe (as the main idea here is that Hoody is Brian; perhaps he was told what happened to him by Tim?). Now that Jay had persisted, Alex was convinced he had another job to do and clean up any witnesses. Tim found out about it and, alarmed, went to save Jay and Jess. He succeeded: I believe the gunshot was Tim shooting Alex. In an outrage, Slender Man attacked Tim, but was unable to do so; I believe it may have something to do with Tim's mask, but I can definitely be wrong.

So, TO went to Jay and Jessica to memory wipe them out of vengeance. It worked. However, TO (the REAL main antagonist, not Alex) is now back at large along with Alex, and Tim came back to the hotel to get Jessica out of harm's way. Deciding that Jay must be his ally, he gives the combination of the safe to Jay as a sort of "see for yourself"-kind of deal. The reason why Tim is acting normal isn't significant; he's not always acting peculiar, I reckon.

That's my idea.

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Entry 29 was Alex revisiting his newest kill. Possibly to finish cleaning up. TO shows up to help.

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