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[Video] Entry #52
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ReverendJ
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morscata12 wrote:
Sylvine wrote:
Xicon wrote:

Suspend your disbelief. If this were actually happening, none of the videos beyond maybe the first few would have been posted. Once it became apparent that Jay was dealing with some supernatural stuff, the videos would have stopped cold.


I AM suspending my disbelief. I act as if the Operator was real, among other things.

But there's suspension of disbelief, and there's accepting the stupid. The medium of Youtube is tied into the story (entries appearing without J posting them, TTA replies). Jay knows TTA is watching his videos, and he knows TTA is linked to Tim somehow. Doing this is as if, after he moved at the end of Season 1, he'd just post his new adress and add: "Whoever TTA is, I don't want him to know where I am now. He must never suspect it's the Rue Avanue, 24..."

There's a way to resolve this while keeping things less stupid, too. Have the entry end shortly after the Operator attack. Have J vaguely say there's something he needs to look into. Then make him tack the ending of #52 to the # that deals with the results of his investigation into Tim. Not too hard, is it?

Sometimes suspension of disbelief is difficult to achieve and thus a bit much to ask for.

~Sylv


There's a good reason for Jay to post what his next move is. Jay just found out Tim was capable of putting a stop to a gun-wielding Alex, and is now planning on following Tim around. If something happened to Jay at this point (where he would no longer be able to post), Tim would be the first suspect the police would start questioning. If Tim was reviewing the channel, and Jay posted that he's got some unfinished business, Tim would probably figure it out anyway (since it will be taking place right next to the hotel in this entry). I think making his investigation public is a matter of protection.

I can't prove that sane Tim doesn't know about the MH channel, but it seems like he doesn't. If he did, "Interview with Tim" would have gone way differently. And if just hearing about MH was enough to switch him into Masky mode, then seeing Tim without his mask is proof that he is no longer immersed in MH culture.
I don't buy the split Tim theory. I think he straight up lied in the interview.

However he was in town a few days (2 or 3 maybe I don't know) maybe he was at the point were he trusted Tim enough to let him no he was keeping an eye on him. He was going to find out anyways, Jay seems to have accepted the fact he sucks at the spy game stuff.

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MistrPibb
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ReverendJ wrote:
I don't buy the split Tim theory. I think he straight up lied in the interview.

^Agreeing so very very much.

Since ToTheArk had been making replies to the entries, of course Tim would know that the interview would be going up on YouTube.

Crazy theory here, but maybe Alex believed that Tim forgot everything although he didn't(?), or maybe found out what happened after his memory was erased.
Tim uses the mask to hide his identity and lies during the interview for the sake of his safety.
I don't believe theories about his mask being magic or memory-retentive.

Edit: left out the point that Alex knew about the MH channel, although I'm pretty sure you caught that

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morscata12 wrote:
Sylvine wrote:
Xicon wrote:

Suspend your disbelief. If this were actually happening, none of the videos beyond maybe the first few would have been posted. Once it became apparent that Jay was dealing with some supernatural stuff, the videos would have stopped cold.


I AM suspending my disbelief. I act as if the Operator was real, among other things.

But there's suspension of disbelief, and there's accepting the stupid. The medium of Youtube is tied into the story (entries appearing without J posting them, TTA replies). Jay knows TTA is watching his videos, and he knows TTA is linked to Tim somehow. Doing this is as if, after he moved at the end of Season 1, he'd just post his new adress and add: "Whoever TTA is, I don't want him to know where I am now. He must never suspect it's the Rue Avanue, 24..."

There's a way to resolve this while keeping things less stupid, too. Have the entry end shortly after the Operator attack. Have J vaguely say there's something he needs to look into. Then make him tack the ending of #52 to the # that deals with the results of his investigation into Tim. Not too hard, is it?

Sometimes suspension of disbelief is difficult to achieve and thus a bit much to ask for.

~Sylv


There's a good reason for Jay to post what his next move is. Jay just found out Tim was capable of putting a stop to a gun-wielding Alex, and is now planning on following Tim around. If something happened to Jay at this point (where he would no longer be able to post), Tim would be the first suspect the police would start questioning. If Tim was reviewing the channel, and Jay posted that he's got some unfinished business, Tim would probably figure it out anyway (since it will be taking place right next to the hotel in this entry). I think making his investigation public is a matter of protection.

I can't prove that sane Tim doesn't know about the MH channel, but it seems like he doesn't. If he did, "Interview with Tim" would have gone way differently. And if just hearing about MH was enough to switch him into Masky mode, then seeing Tim without his mask is proof that he is no longer immersed in MH culture.


So glad you posted this, because I too was having trouble figuring out why he would post that sort of thing on Youtube. I'm alright at suspending my disbelief but sometimes I need to provide myself with an explanation to do it, and this is perfect, thanks.

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ReverendJ wrote:
WAIT A MINUTE...won't Tim SEE this entry...and know he's being watched...

Considering how much a fail ninja Jay is, Tim might already know Jay was filming him.

Alternatly, Jay wants Tim to know he's watching our favorite masked man as well as seeking to make sure Alex can't hurt anyone else again.

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Geneaux486
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 		Did J really say he was trying to secretly follow Tim? Thought I just remembered him saying he wanted to figure out what Tim was doing there, in which case Tim knowing about it is inconsequential.

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 		No, Jay said he found Tim and tailed him until he lost him.
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Geneaux486
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 		He said he kept his distance and lost him shortly after noticing him in town. He may have been trying to hide his presence but to me this doesn't confirm that he was. I'd venture to say it was more out of confussion that J didn't approach him.

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Sylvine
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morscata12 wrote:

There's a good reason for Jay to post what his next move is...


Touché. I admit I haven't thought of that.

Still would have preferred for J to state this reason instead of his contradictory "keeping a low profile" act. 'cause that one definitely won't work Wink But yes, I guess I can suspend my disbelief a bit with that. Thanks.

~Sylv

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Tharol
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 		Keep stalking there Jay dirty filmers.

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Lytrigian
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Sylvine wrote:
Still would have preferred for J to state this reason instead of his contradictory "keeping a low profile" act. 'cause that one definitely won't work Wink

Let's keep in mind that Jay's idea of "keeping a low profile" is to remain in a hotel which he doesn't remember checking into, where some unknown person therefore may well have brought him, and then posting both interior and exterior images of the place on YouTube.

Ninja-ing is definitely not his strong point.

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 		Hoping that season 3 won't be a long time from now. Also whats the opinion on Entry 2, while this is were they were still fleshing out the story I still feel like they have to stick with it, he must have done something to have the operator following him.

Also considering that TO hasn't been attacking J in the few months since Entry 27, have we considered that from Alex's recent failure that hes gone back to attacking Alex?

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 		One thing to ponder:

If Tim's leg was broken during the 7-month period by Alex, why is he still limping 7 months later? I'm sure a broken leg doesn't take THAT long to heal.

My theory is that Tim got shot in his bad leg and that explains his limping during the "memory gone" J as of like...now.

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 		I see people speculating on if Tim will see 52, but think about it, why would he? Maybe he's just trying to move on now that he assumes Jay watched the last tape.
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UnreadierLizard wrote:
One thing to ponder:

If Tim's leg was broken during the 7-month period by Alex, why is he still limping 7 months later? I'm sure a broken leg doesn't take THAT long to heal.

My theory is that Tim got shot in his bad leg and that explains his limping during the "memory gone" J as of like...now.


If a broken bone doesn't heal properly you can have a limp.
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