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ddl
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I've been trying to figure out which tree corresponds to each treasure, but it's been real busy for me IRL. Still I had one idea:

Hazel, 9th Moon of the Celtic Year -- The Halter of Clydno Eiddyn (Cebystr Clydno Eiddin)
"Equos June/July Horse-time"

http://www.livingmyths.com/Celticyear.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/autumn_magick/lunar_cycles.htm

Edit: Looking through the internet and I found something interesting.
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Here the Merlin spoke and requested that the Thirteen Treasures be handed over to him. The keepers were unwilling but they finally agreed that if he could obtain the Horn of Bran of the North, they would all surrender theirs.


Not sure if anyone else caught that, but it explains why Intueor chose to keep the Horn.

http://iantopf.hubpages.com/hub/Thirteen-treasures-of-Britain

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:36 pm
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New email. After flipping and reversing, it reads:

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vladimir is not well at all. cardui is trying to help him.all i can offer is assistance in person - is anyone free to meet a friend of mine, in london on the 30th november? if not, no worries - i can send it in person if vlad's system allows


Has anyone responded to this yet? Since the date in question is tomorrow, this is probably too late notice if nobody in the London area has seen this yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:25 am
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I haven't received that email. Who is it from?
Its clearly not Vladimir, and the fact it refers to Cardui means its not her.
3 of us are supposed to meet up tomorrow though, myself, Quintus Septime and Paul Bird.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:24 pm
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I'm going to post what I have done regarding the two tasks we currently have, the Vladimir input needed task and the Tree Calendar task.


Vladimir input needed:
The image behind the board in the file is the orbits of asteroids. the image location is at:
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/seri/ASPC./0063//0000030.000.html

The interesting part however is this, the "6984. Date". There is an asteroid, called 6984 lewiscaroll. This asteroid was discovered on the 04.01.1994.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6984_Lewiscarroll

I haven't been able to decipher the board. However I do plan to email Cardui the date the asteroid was found and see if it triggers anything.


Tree Calendar:
Below I have a few trees and treasures which I think may match up to another along with the reasoning why which I've taken only from the sources provided in the email.

White-hilt -> rowan
"The wood from the Hawthorn provides the hottest fire "

The Knife -> Oak
"The Oak is a male wood which is ideal for the construction of any tool that needs the male influence such as Athames, certain wands and staffs"

The Cauldron -> Hazel
"As the hazelnuts ripened, they would fall into the well where they were eaten by the salmon. With each nut eaten, the salmon would gain another spot. In order to gain the wisdom of the Hazel, the Druids caught and prepared the salmon. But Fionn, the young man stirring the pot in which the salmon were cooking, accidentally burned his thumb with the boiling stew. By reflex, he put his thumb into his mouth and thus ingested the essence of the sacred feast; he instantly gained the wisdom of the universe." &
" Until the seventeenth century, a forked Hazel stick was used to divine the guilt of persons in cases of murder and theft"

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Forebringer wrote:
Vladimir input needed:
The image behind the board in the file is the orbits of asteroids. the image location is at:
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/seri/ASPC./0063//0000030.000.html

The interesting part however is this, the "6984. Date". There is an asteroid, called 6984 lewiscaroll. This asteroid was discovered on the 04.01.1994.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6984_Lewiscarroll

I haven't been able to decipher the board. However I do plan to email Cardui the date the asteroid was found and see if it triggers anything.


Nice find! Going along with the theme of asteroids, I looked up the board numbers (seeing as 6984 was listed as the MPC designation on the wiki link you provided) at http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/db_search, and found that all the numbers correspond with asteroids in the main belt. The Lewiscaroll asteroid is also found in the main belt. The orbit diagram depicts asteroids from the main belt as well.

For the tree assignment, I offer my birch tree to be photographed if needed.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:33 pm
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This worked! Thank you. Have now stabilised the systems - will be able to assist now with file retrieval a bit more now.
With any luck the image focus should bring Vlad back to normal service.
Noticed a minor bit of activity from this account as well recently - has anyone heard from Ser.ei?
It looks like a coded message went out but, for some reason, my interaction here in Calcutta is unable to read it...
Albion and Intueor thank you...
Cardui


Reply email from Cardui, seems the date was 04.01.1994 worked.

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New email!

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London's burning London's burning...

Having Merlin's crystal now, freed for us by one who sought to help Vladimir more than question who my agent was, we are much more able to exert our will.
So, if you are reading this Intueor agents [especially you Cardui, for making me 'shut up' so delicately], do pass on my thanks to the kind gentleman who traversed the maze for us...
You do know how much of a BIND those oak trees are and all...

Best regards until we play our redqueen...
Sergei [and the others who, for now, shall remain nameless - but thank you...]


The part where he says "You do know how much of a BIND those are trees are and all..." quite obviously a clue.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:50 pm
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I accept the thanks regrettably.

I gave them Merlin's crystal. In return I have received several scrolls, a pen, an oak leaf, a map, stones and a few symbols. The good news about this is the scrolls also seem to provide the missing hints needed for the trees problem as well as other important information. The bad news is we are now on a time limit I've been told. Also I believe that on the input needed task another date can be obtained.

Unfortunately I have no scanner here so I'll scan the pages tomorrow for everyone and upload them. At the same time I'll upload the other images for the other objects in my possession and the symbol on the ground of where I met the agent.

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aquarius904
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Forebringer, did the agent give his or her name? And on a time limit for what exactly?

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Information about the scrolls I received, to tide everyone over to tomorrow.

Quote:
Scroll 1:
Horn

Merlin : Oak

He with one has all




Scroll 2:
Chariot

Carbon ... Oxygen
.. +........:... +
Sunlight ... Energy

*weird symbol here*
Alder




Scroll3:
Whetstone

Sharp: #

Look for the music...




Scroll4:
Halter

Find Rupert
Isaacson's
son

*several dots*




Scroll5:
Coat

First : Cold
month

Beaten with the birch
until red all over




Scroll6:
Knife

HAW: 1 :THORN
........24

*weird symbol*




Scroll7:
Cauldron

Wisdom: understand
the
way

Follow Taliesin *symbol*




Scroll8:
Hamper

Food : Wine

Drink from the vine
responsibly




Scroll9:
White-Hilt

Fire : Ash

Wield with care




Scroll10:
Crock+Dish *The crock has as crown above it*

♪ 1:1 ♪

"When they are both
full grown..."




Scroll11:
Chessboard

Silver : Gold
..... : ☉ ............... *A crescent moon and sun symbol are here*

Time between times




Scroll12:
Mantle

Hide your fear

Weep no tears...


The other objects:
The pen is from bletchley park.
The oak leaf had written on it: FIND THE CRYSTAL TO GAIN FAVOUR
The map is identical to the one attached. It was weighted down at four corners by stones.
I have a few images of a symbol the agent drew on the ground I'll attach in a minute.


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Forebringer, did the agent give his or her name? And on a time limit for what exactly?


The argent didn't speak beside taunting me with the darkness and didn't give me a name. The time limit I believe is on fixing vlad.
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What happened today.

I travelled to crystal palace and arrived when it was getting dark, about 4pm. I went to the north mound where I had arranged to meet an agent of Sergei. Upon arrival I saw a man in cloak with a hood pulled up and a long nose masquerade mask on.

He was standing at the entrance to the maze. Between us was a symbol, at the middle of this symbol was a piece of paper, a pen and leaf attached to it. The piece of paper was a simple chess puzzle, the pen was the one above and the oak leaf was the one with the writing on it.

After this the masquerade masked man(henceforth known as MMM), went behind the gate. MMM had on the back of his hands two symbols, the left hand had a crescent moon on it with a 0 written above it and the right hand an alchemical sun (a circle and a dot in the center) with 1 above it. I asked a few questions which he replied by using his hands, 1 for yes and 0 for no. The agent is known to vlad and sergei. I asked a few questions which led to the conclusion that Inteour was involved in the fire 75 years ago at crystal palace.

After the questions he led me into the center of the maze where there was a clearing. At the center there was a red blanket spread out. At the center of this blanket was a map with stones on its corner. I looked at the map and which MMM then folded up and gave to me with the stones inside it. I did ask if there were any differences with the map he gave me and the digital copy I received from sergei via email, which there wasn't. He then pointed in a direction. I went in that direction to a pile of leaves. I cleared the leaves out of the way and under it was a medal with an oak leaf on it.

MMM then pulled in the corners of the blanket and brought me to the edge of the clearing. The ground had a map of the maze. I was then led out of the clearing and to the entrance of the maze and set me off into it.
I spent a surprising amount of time in the maze. The maze had a lot of monoliths with images of nature on them. I made it to one with an oak leaf on it where MMM told me I would find the crystal

I did find under a pile of leaves to the side. After getting it I returned to the clearing where MMM asked me if I wanted to keep the crystal or exchange it for the scrolls. Since I didn't know what the crystal was or how to use it I exchanged it for the scrolls. At which point I was thanked since they were not able to obtain the crystal themselves.

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It took me longer than expected but here are both images of the objects I have and scans of all the scrolls I received. The numbers don't reflect any order for the scrolls. The pen might be where the agent is from or works.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:32 pm
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Ah! He gave you the eight queens puzzle - that's one of my personal favorites.

I guess there were positives and negatives from your meeting, but I do wonder if it we would have been able to solve the tree puzzle with making the trade... still it should make things a bit more interesting now.

And for the less obvious scrolls:

Rowan = Halter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Horse_Boy

Mantle = Willow (Weeping...)
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Very interesting stuff. I'm pretty sure those of you that live in the UK know but Bletchley Park, now home to the National Museum of Computing, used to be the home to the Government Code and Cypher School. It was used during WWII to crack ciphers from enemy countries. Station X was also located there, which was a radio intercept station. I wonder what the significance of that is???

Based on the scroll for the Cauldron and the clue therein "understand the
way Follow Taliesin" I'm going to agree with Forebringers conclusion about the tree for the cauldron being Hazel

Quote:
The Cauldron -> Hazel
"As the hazelnuts ripened, they would fall into the well where they were eaten by the salmon. With each nut eaten, the salmon would gain another spot. In order to gain the wisdom of the Hazel, the Druids caught and prepared the salmon. But Fionn, the young man stirring the pot in which the salmon were cooking, accidentally burned his thumb with the boiling stew. By reflex, he put his thumb into his mouth and thus ingested the essence of the sacred feast; he instantly gained the wisdom of the universe." &
" Until the seventeenth century, a forked Hazel stick was used to divine the guilt of persons in cases of murder and theft"


I looked up Taliesin and found this:

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Taliesin began life as Gwion Bach, a servant to Ceridwen, the wife of a nobleman Tegid Foel, in the days when King Aurthor ruled. She was a magician who had three arts she learned: enchantment, magic, and divination. Ceridwen had a beautiful daughter and an ugly son named Morfran, which means "Great-crow",whose appearance no magic could cure. Later he became known as Afagddu, which means "Utter Darkness". Ceridwen felt in order for him to gain respect and acceptance from noblemen he had to have great qualities to compensate for his ugly looks, so she sought to give him the gift of wisdom and knowledge. Through her arts she found a way of giving her son these special qualities, so she found special herbs from the earth in order to do this. inspiration (Awen), which had to be constantly stirred and cooked for a year and a day in a cauldron. A blind man, whose name we do not know, was assigned by Ceridwen to stir the cauldron, while Gwion Bach, a young lad, stoked the fire underneath it. The first three drops of liquid from this cauldron would give would be," extaordinarily learned in various arts and full of spirit of prophecy" (The Tale of Gwion Bach), and the rest was a fatal poison. After all Ceridwen's hard work she sat down, and accidentally fell asleep. While she was asleep the three drops sprang from the cauldron and Gwion Bach shoved Morfran out of the way so he could get the three drops. Instantly, he gained wisdom. Knowing from his wisdom that Ceridwen would be very angry once she found out what happened that he ran away. All too soon he heard her fury and the sound of her pursuit. He turned himself into a hare on the land and she became a greyhound. He turned himself into a fish and jumped into a river: she then turned into an otter. He turned into a bird in the air, and in response she became a hawk. Exhausted, Ceridwen mangaged to force him into a barn, where he turned into a single grain of corn and she became a tufted black hen and ate him. She became pregnant because of this. She resolved to kill the child, knowing it was Gwion, but when he was born he was so beautiful that she couldn't, so she had him put into a hide covered basket and thrown into the lake, river, or sea, depending on which version of this tale you read.

Discovery by Elffin
The baby was found by Elphin, the son of Gwyddno Garanhir, 'Lord of Ceredigion', while fishing for salmon. Surprised at the whiteness of the boy's forehead, he exclaimed "dyma Dal Iesin", meaning "this is a radiant forehead." Taliesin, thus named, began to sing stanzas poetry, known as Dehuddiant Elphin


Unfortunately, I have no idea WHERE to find a hazel tree around here. Being an outdoorsman I'm pretty familiar with flora and I don't think I've seen one around here...

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Alright, so mostly to help myself, I've compiled a list of the trees and potential matches. I haven't been around much lately, so it's very likely that I've missed some ideas being tossed around, but I went back in the thread and put together all of the ideas that I saw. Let me know if I've messed something up.


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Birch, 1st Moon of the Celtic Year- Coat
Rowan, 2nd- Halter
Ash, 3rd- White-hilt
Alder, 4th- Chariot
Willow, 5th- Mantle
Hawthorn, 6th- Knife
Oak, 7th- Horn
Holly, 8th- Crock
Hazel, 9th- Cauldron
Vine, 10th- Hamper
Ivy, 11th- Dish
Reed, 12th- Whetstone
Elder, 13th- Chessboard

I put the chessboard with elder simply because there was no room left Razz

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