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[Anonymousity]

Meanwhile at Habit Baby Death Olympics:



This entry was fucking amazing!! I wouldn't have thought they'd actually pull the fight off on camera. It's so cinematic, the "villain pov" so clever, and it's now really understandable why the guys have not been telling or communicating...

Could the help be our ANTI-HABIT-cru-plans we aspired to??

Either way, this all looks good for EVAN not being as evil as some of us perceived to be, but WHO IS CAM? Vincent? He is the Voyeur after all... HABIT needs a host, and it is damn sure not him as of now.

[axon64]

Hi, I've been watching EMH for awhile but never really posted here. Since I'm kinda new I don't want to go making any outrageous claims, but I just thought I'd point out that the "person" filming in Ballpate could have been one of the "thousand mile stares" creatures.

[Luipaard]

[ChildOfAtom]

Anyone want to tackle the transcript for the wiki?

[dinorobo]

Points that were mentioned already but I am reiterating because they are important:

This video was most likely (read:definitely) posted by HABIT.

The fight between Evan and Nick was to see who would make a better
shell. Since Evan won, we need to be more wary of him than we have
before.

I think this whole security camera thing has been going on from the
beginning and I'll eat my hat if Vince has nothing to do with it.

I am almost now 100 percent sure that the villain in all of this is not
Slenderman, not Evan, and not even HABIT. I really think that Vince
is the one orchestrating all of this, wether he is conscious of this or not.

[MesserTod]

[Anonymousity]

BTW, regarding the "1000 mile stare" - I recently re-watched Full Metal Jacket, and there is one scene in the second half where, in the faux-documentary-bits, a soldier says people in the war get the stare. Asked about it, he says "Well... this thousand mile stare.", implying that, the more evil/death you see, the more does your soul leave.

Could it be these 1000-mile-stare-creatures ARE INDEED us, who watch all this stuff and are de-sentisized? Doesn't have to be, but... well...

[tijde]

I agree with the "thousand mile stare" creature filming the Baldpate footage. I also think that the "Let me help" voice/clawing was indeed HABIT, and that HABIT was simultaneously possessing both Nick and Evan after Evan let him help. This suggests a few significant things about HABIT:

(1) Evan had to allow HABIT to possess him in this situation. Either HABIT isn't as all-powerful as he makes himself out to be and he needs to be invited before he can fully take over, or he did that to make Evan painfully aware of his possession. A "You're mine and now you know it" kind of statement. There are holes in both, but I'm still processing.

(2) If HABIT possessed both bodies to test their performance, he must be limited by the host body's abilities. I've wondered for awhile about the specifics of HABIT'S possession. Does he just "wear" the body like a glove, or does he operate in the host-mind as well, like a puppet? It's an important distinction, IMO, because if the latter is true, there may be a chance of the host mind fighting HABIT's control. And that means there's a chance for redemption.

One last thing. "Rules have been broken" + "outside help" immediately reminded me of the initial Seven Trials email. "No outside help" was one of HABIT's few rules for the rabbits. So, considering the flashes of our guys receiving outside help from Noah etc., could HABIT be implying that the guys are indeed still rabbits?

[Cougar Draven]

Ninja'ing in to bring back something interesting.

Lui seems not to have puzzled this out, so it must not have been discussed here.

Vince may be directly responsible for whatever happened to Lexi in Halloween Hangover.

[Luipaard]

Tiny brainwave: if we accept that Vince voluntarily recorded the phone call and that he also put up the cameras, than isn't it possible that he's the one who has been uploading these spotlight videos?

My only questions are

1) If so, why did he freak out when Slenderman was chasing him around his basement

2) What purpose do the videos serve? At this point I think we were wrong in our estimation that the they were meant to put a split between us and the group -- or if they were, then they're failing epically.

Someone is trying to show us what the group won't -- why? Is it a cry for help? Just a State of the Union? Why are we being kept informed?

Re: Cougar's statement about Lexi and Vince, he figured out that maybe Vince was directly responsible for what happened to her -- i.e., he set her up to be killed or imprisoned. The blood in the sink in both their apartments is not a mistake, it parallels them both. We thought that maybe he just accidentally passed on Slenderherpes, but what if he involved her deliberately?

If we go with the theory that he is the Voyeur than it's quite possible that she was just the next step in his plan.

"THE VOYEUR SHALL REMAIN IDLE TO ALL WHO SEE, HOWEVER BUSY HE MAY BE BENEATH"

What is he busy with? What is he doing? If Lexi figured into it somehow than it's possible that he called Slenderman down on her head after she enabled him. (Or else she turned out to be a dead end. Who knows.)

(PS to the doubters:

"THE VOYEUR SHALL WATCH FROM AN EMOTIONAL DISTANCE, INSISTING UPON MAINTAINING THEIR STRENGTH."

He does this when he's consoling Evan, hinthint.)

[arcanadei]

[THmanslayr]

I don't dislike the Thousand Mile Stare creatures here, but I think that Vince was probably cameraman.

I thought "outside help" sounded familiar, thanks tijde.

Judging from the CYSTW posts, I would say that Habit most definitely allows his subjects to retain their consciousness while he possesses them.

I think it would be strange for Habit to say that the boys are still rabbits, as that kind of breaks his own rule. He may indeed be referring to the Candleverse rules, but then wouldn't instigating the Trials be breaking them too? Habit seems a little more lawful evil than that.

[Cougar Draven]

I don't think that was Lexi's blood. We've already seen, quite well, that people can very much not remember what they've been doing.

[Luipaard]

[AngryDeepground]

I am starting to think less and less that habit is a person, and more that he's a pressence. I know thats probably been posted before, but I think it needs to be reiterated, cause we sometimes treat habit like a human being. \

Also why or how could vince orchestreate this, I can bye Alex Kralie was useing his Marble Hornets production to kill off his freinds, but vince using a health series to just involve his friends in the paramormal "Game " of sorts is just way out there.