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Araenna
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 		Got a reply from genesis.twentytwo.six
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You found me through Trilon. Good. I'm surprised they haven't yet...I kept them down over the weekend, but their mutagen database is still screwed. You'll thank me later...

MERG-X is a conglomerate of a bunch of companies you don't want to know about. I know what they do, and because of it, they've been after me for years.
But the feeling is mutual; they'll get what they deserve.

Cassandra Lost




War Poet
I am the man who looked for peace and found
My own eyes barbed.
I am the man who groped for words and found
An arrow in my hand.
I am the builder whose firm walls surround
A slipping land.
When I grow sick or mad
Mock me not nor chain me;
When I reach for the wind
Cast me not down
Though my face is a burnt book
And a wasted town.


--Sidney Keyes

{Note from Araenna The part in parenthesis is hidden unless highlighted, parenthesis not added by me}
(8182313222 16222228)
105 213132391422 121214 2326262534722 91416 8211062122 251325411918 15726195 25231524201419
21 2152322 259 1621626 24212513 21 425414162722 25432520

15726199 1348161 9 2016102326113 416 22772016
13101821 2329254201025152314 20967 1441423722 22771122714
12825 2024 8423815 1416217 25212531223 15202625191014 71471910

19 249112163 18127 2420157 2326 1523825 25201610 2326 1112
2121626 107 21725 921720 19 10222222 161145 2021255
7425 1114 22211010211419


Edit: I have no idea where to start to decode this, I'm kinda new to this sort of thing. Any ideas?

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GuestUser17
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Araenna wrote:
Got a reply from genesis.twentytwo.six
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You found me through Trilon. Good. I'm surprised they haven't yet...I kept them down over the weekend, but their mutagen database is still screwed. You'll thank me later...

MERG-X is a conglomerate of a bunch of companies you don't want to know about. I know what they do, and because of it, they've been after me for years.
But the feeling is mutual; they'll get what they deserve.

Cassandra Lost




War Poet
I am the man who looked for peace and found
My own eyes barbed.
I am the man who groped for words and found
An arrow in my hand.
I am the builder whose firm walls surround
A slipping land.
When I grow sick or mad
Mock me not nor chain me;
When I reach for the wind
Cast me not down
Though my face is a burnt book
And a wasted town.


--Sidney Keyes

{Note from Araenna The part in parenthesis is hidden unless highlighted, parenthesis not added by me}
(8182313222 16222228)
105 213132391422 121214 2326262534722 91416 8211062122 251325411918 15726195 25231524201419
21 2152322 259 1621626 24212513 21 425414162722 25432520

15726199 1348161 9 2016102326113 416 22772016
13101821 2329254201025152314 20967 1441423722 22771122714
12825 2024 8423815 1416217 25212531223 15202625191014 71471910

19 249112163 18127 2420157 2326 1523825 25201610 2326 1112
2121626 107 21725 921720 19 10222222 161145 2021255
7425 1114 22211010211419


Edit: I have no idea where to start to decode this, I'm kinda new to this sort of thing. Any ideas?

Just to add a few things:
Firstly, there is a document attached that has the same contents as the email. Secondly,
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Some of the letters are highlighted in the message. I added the highlighting above. In order they are f a I l p r a y. That might be a playfair cipher with the parentheses being the key but that's a wild guess at the moment. I'll take a look at the letters shortly.


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Araenna
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GuestUser17 wrote:

Just to add a few things:
Firstly, there is a document attached that has the same contents as the email.


I can't believe I missed that. >.<

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:59 pm
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godder
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 		Damn it! I want to go look up Sidney Keyes on Wikipedia, but it's blacked out today protesting that damn proposal. I wonder if choosing Sidney Keyes as the author wasn't just random. I'll see if I can come up with anything.
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GuestUser17
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godder wrote:
Damn it! I want to go look up Sidney Keyes on Wikipedia, but it's blacked out today protesting that damn proposal. I wonder if choosing Sidney Keyes as the author wasn't just random. I'll see if I can come up with anything.

You can always put m. instead of en. in front to get the mobile version of Wikipedia - http://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Keyes. There are other ways but that's the easiest. Also, I agree that Keyes is probably the important part. Smile

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Araenna
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GuestUser17 wrote:
godder wrote:
Damn it! I want to go look up Sidney Keyes on Wikipedia, but it's blacked out today protesting that damn proposal. I wonder if choosing Sidney Keyes as the author wasn't just random. I'll see if I can come up with anything.

You can always put m. instead of en. in front to get the mobile version of Wikipedia - http://m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Keyes. There are other ways but that's the easiest. Also, I agree that Keyes is probably the important part. Smile


Keyes may refer to the fact that the
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text right after it may be the key
, or the fact that
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the poem contains what may be the name of the cipher to use.

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I've been looking at the playfair cypher, and I'm unsure how to get the possible key or the text to fit into it. The text isn't broken up so that you can tell easily tell if it's say, 12 12 14, or 1 21 21 4, or 12 1 2 1 4. I did notice that some of the spaces between number groups in the attachment where double spaces and some were single spaces, though.


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Tharol
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 		People basic thanks protest not much happened think.

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LatentMoths
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 		The hidden part of the code works out to be

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(8182313222 16222228) broken up as 8.18.23.13.22.2 16.22.2.22.8 will substitute into SIDNEY KEYES. I tried to break up the other blocks of code the same way but wasn't able to come up with anything.


Also is there anything to the name in the header of the email? It shows that the email is from כ ˩
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Adm_BlackCat
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 		EDIT: The key for the first string of numbers 8182313222 16222228 is
ZYXWVU... = 1,2,3,4,5,6...
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LeHommeSuspendu
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 		I've participated in a few ARGs over the years but generally am terrible at ciphers. Anyone willing to give me a crash-course on ciphers? How to figure out what type it is, & how to go about solving?

Edit: Or point me towards a good starting place?

Thanks in advance.

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r.m
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 		LeHommeSuspendu -

Here are a couple of sites where you can enter info for different types of codes and ciphers to be decoded.

http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/

http://www.braingle.com/brainteasers/codes/index.php

Sometimes the problem is in knowing what info to enter.

LatentMoths figured out how to break up the strings of numbers into the correct units to match numbers to letters according to their alphabetical order. Adm_BlackCat posted that this code followed a simple pattern of reversing the alphabet with the numerical order (1=Z, 26=A) for the one part of the message.

The tricky part for the rest of the message is figuring how to break up the number strings into individual letter units. Would 1224 be 1 - 2 - 2 - 4 or 12 - 2 - 4 or 12 - 24 ... etc. ? And the key for the second part of the message could be different from the one in parentheses. If it's a simple key, using letter frequencies and just filling in and going by trial and error until it works might be all you need. Sometimes you have to have a keyword and put it and the other info into a decoder. Sometimes the hardest part is figuring what type of code/cipher it is.

I don't know if this is what you were asking for, but I hope it helps.

EDIT: Also (if you haven't already seen it) unfiction has this tool resource page that can be helpful.
http://www.unfiction.com/resource/otools/

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nichiera
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 		I dont have the time right now but if it is infact a playfair cipher using reverse alphabet->number scheme it will take a while to decode. If someone has the time here are some info that might help you and for LeHommeSuspendu:

http://25yearsofprogramming.com/fun/ciphers.htm.

http://trumpetpower.com/Papers/Crypto/Playfair

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LeHommeSuspendu
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Quote:
LeHommeSuspendu -

Here are a couple of sites where you can enter info for different types of codes and ciphers to be decoded.


Thanks r.m, that's a good place to start.

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 		Maybe this will help
I took the numbers from the bottom of the email and split them up so that no number over 26 was present in a given pair. I replaced the spaces with '_' characters and there were also no-break spaces that I replaced with '-'. It's possible that these are 3 different ciphers since the single(?) character in the first paragraph is 21 and in the 3rd paragraph is 19. I've tried some combinations in a playfair cipher with SIDNEYKEYES as the key but nothing has magically appeared yet. I'll try again later but thought this might help people in the mean time.

10 5_-213 13 23 9 14 22_-121214_-23 26 26 25 3 4 7 22_9 14 16-_8 2110 6 2122_25 13 25 4 119 18_15 7 26 19 5-_25 23 15 24 20 14 19 21_215 23 22_-25 9_-16 216 26_-24 2125 13_-21_-4 25 4 14 16 2 7 22_-25 4 3 25 20

15 7 26 19 9_-13 4 8 16 1_-9_-20 16 10 23 26 113_-4 16_-22 7 7 20 16 13 10 18 21_-23 2 9 25 4 20 10 25 15 23 14_-20 9 6 7_-14 4 14 23 7 22_-22 7 7 1122 7 14 12 8 25_-20 24_-8 4 23 8 15_-14 16 217_-25 2125 3 1223-_15 20 26 25 19 10 14_7 14 7 19 10

19-_24 9 11216 3_-18 12 7_-24 20 15 7-_23 26_-15 23 8 25_-25 20 16 10_-23 26_-1112
21216 26_-10 7_-217 25_-9 217 20_19_-10 222222_16 114 5_-20 2125 5 7 4 25_-1114_-222110 10 2114 19

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Araenna
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 		Re: Maybe this will help
GuestUser17 wrote:
I took the numbers from the bottom of the email and split them up so that no number over 26 was present in a given pair. I replaced the spaces with '_' characters and there were also no-break spaces that I replaced with '-'. It's possible that these are 3 different ciphers since the single(?) character in the first paragraph is 21 and in the 3rd paragraph is 19. I've tried some combinations in a playfair cipher with SIDNEYKEYES as the key but nothing has magically appeared yet. I'll try again later but thought this might help people in the mean time.

10 5_-213 13 23 9 14 22_-121214_-23 26 26 25 3 4 7 22_9 14 16-_8 2110 6 2122_25 13 25 4 119 18_15 7 26 19 5-_25 23 15 24 20 14 19 21_215 23 22_-25 9_-16 216 26_-24 2125 13_-21_-4 25 4 14 16 2 7 22_-25 4 3 25 20

15 7 26 19 9_-13 4 8 16 1_-9_-20 16 10 23 26 113_-4 16_-22 7 7 20 16 13 10 18 21_-23 2 9 25 4 20 10 25 15 23 14_-20 9 6 7_-14 4 14 23 7 22_-22 7 7 1122 7 14 12 8 25_-20 24_-8 4 23 8 15_-14 16 217_-25 2125 3 1223-_15 20 26 25 19 10 14_7 14 7 19 10

19-_24 9 11216 3_-18 12 7_-24 20 15 7-_23 26_-15 23 8 25_-25 20 16 10_-23 26_-1112
21216 26_-10 7_-217 25_-9 217 20_19_-10 222222_16 114 5_-20 2125 5 7 4 25_-1114_-222110 10 2114 19


I just opened notepad to do that. Thanks!

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