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We haven't; it's still speculation. I was going to mention that myself, but I decided it's irrelevant to the discussion.

We do know, however, that whoever TTA is/are, he/she/they definitely has/have an interest in Tim, as he is the subject of several videos.

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Zarggg wrote:
We haven't; it's still speculation. I was going to mention that myself, but I decided it's irrelevant to the discussion.

We do know, however, that whoever TTA is/are, he/she/they definitely has/have an interest in Tim, as he is the subject of several videos.



Jay speculated on twitter that TTA was a group
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I find it kind of odd that there have been no more TotheArk videos since about September.

I'm starting to think that maybe TotheArk is Alex. Especially due to the last entry which gives us the phrase:

"How much do you hate?" and "It is not enough."

That sounds more like Alex to me for some reason.

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ThinSuit wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
We haven't; it's still speculation. I was going to mention that myself, but I decided it's irrelevant to the discussion.

We do know, however, that whoever TTA is/are, he/she/they definitely has/have an interest in Tim, as he is the subject of several videos.



Jay speculated on twitter that TTA was a group


And TTA himself has said that Jay is not trustworthy.

I'm not saying that I disagree with TTA = Tim/Group, (although personally I do still think it's a separate entity) but I just don't like seeing people spouting off theories with the assumed knowledge that TTA's identity is already confirmed.

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It may have been me that you thought was speculating...I kind of was, I thought it would be cool and that I would flip if Jay bought the cameras and found TTA type footage, the unedited bits that ended up being in the TTA vids. The person who commented after me thought it would be funny, and I did too, but that wasn't what I had thought (I didn't consider the comedy angle). I was meaning that I would flip because that would be very telling, possibly (but still not quite definitely, could be someone else's old cameras) that it would point to Tim as TTA. So I wasn't assuming that we had proof and knew that Tim was TTA, I was meaning we might finally get evidence of that.
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I've always assumed TiMasky and Co were TTA. since they seem to really not Oppy...and I don't think Alex could get away with making those vids without Oppy finding out...then again, I suppose Oppy could be *making* Alex make those vids, but that doesn't make much sense. Thus I stand by TiMasky and Co for being TTA.

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totheark says "Come back. Find me."
Jay goes back to Brian's house and finds Tim.
Seems pretty straightforward.

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in inquiry, totheark shows a picture of tim and asks "who are you"

so i still think it's assumption that tim is in totheark

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Pretty sure he was asking in a more philosophical sense. Wasn't he showing multiple pictures as well?
I just find it extremely unlikely that two entities, where one refers to the other as "me", one repeatedly appears willingly in the other's videos, occupy the same areas at the same times, and learn the same things at the same times have nothing to do with one another. There is certainly plenty of evidence to suggest that Tim is totheark, most likely alongside the hooded figure. What I don't see is any evidence that contradicts that idea.

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Geneaux486 wrote:
totheark says "Come back. Find me."
Jay goes back to Brian's house and finds Tim.
Seems pretty straightforward.

It would be straightforward, if there was further evidence to corroborate this theory. Unfortunately, nothing TTA does again confirms or denies that TTA is Tim, nor do any of Tim's further actions as Masky conform or deny that he is TTA.

I do agree that the video is intended to lead Jay to Tim, but I don't think the video is confirmation that Tim is or is part of TTA. Again, I'm sure TTA has interests in Tim, but we don't know what they are yet.

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also we never see tim directly participate in the videos. just because he's in them doesn't mean it's voluntary. while it most likely is, it's still not concrete.

in most of the videos he is being videotaped, but we don't know if he knows this or not. in inquiry, the pictures (after enough time looking at the pics) to me shows brian, alex, jay, and tim. brian's picture says "you are you' with the operator symbol through the eyes, as if to say "i know who you are" - and the rest say "but who are you" - either implying that he doesn't know them, or they don't know the truth about themselves. probably the latter. regardless, he lumps tim in the same category as jay and alex, which leads me to believe tim is not in totheark, but rather that totheark is aware of what tim is doing and is on his side or something like that. it wasn't ever confirmed that it's more than one person either, jay just mentions that it appears that there's more than one person due to the content of the videos varying greatly. however, i personally think it's a group since we see skully and another masky in one of the videos (i think entry 26 or entry #####)



you're trying to make people think your opinion is a fact what it's not. it's probably likely that it's a group and tim is working with them, but again, nothing in the series says so, therefore it's just a theory.

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It would be straightforward, if there was further evidence to corroborate this theory.


At the same time that totheark calls Jay out on secretly filming himself, Jay finds that Tim has been inside his house and watched him filming himself. We see in ##### that Tim is sitting in front of a still camera (that is to say, nobody is holding the camera, and Tim clearly knows it is there), while a voice says "we" this and "we" that. It is not until Tim finds Jay in season 2 and then loses him again that totheark starts posting videos again. Again in a later totheark video Tim is seen walking towards a still video camera. We also see the hooded figure stationed in front of a still camera in one video, and we know he is working with Tim. This is all evidence that corroborates the idea that Tim is totheark alongside the hooded man. This combined with totheark referring to Tim as "me" in the "come back. find me." is, in fact, quite straightforward. I don't understand why people continue to omit these rather obvious details connecting Tim and totheark. It's possible that Tim isn't totheark, sure, but it's really, really unlikely, and in hindsight it would be a pretty awkward plot twist.

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Those revelations were made during Season One, which Bradley says cornered the story too much for their liking. Season Two could have completely revised a good portion of TTA, which Troy said originally wasn't supposed to even be integral to the story. Now it seems like TTA packed on some weight to take on its bigger role in the overall story.
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punxtr wrote:
Those revelations were made during Season One, which Bradley says cornered the story too much for their liking. Season Two could have completely revised a good portion of TTA, which Troy said originally wasn't supposed to even be integral to the story. Now it seems like TTA packed on some weight to take on its bigger role in the overall story.


Slightly OT, but where did the name Bradley come from? I heard once that Bradley was the name of a pet rat, but I dunno if they were being sarcastic.
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punxtr wrote:
Those revelations were made during Season One, which Bradley says cornered the story too much for their liking. Season Two could have completely revised a good portion of TTA, which Troy said originally wasn't supposed to even be integral to the story. Now it seems like TTA packed on some weight to take on its bigger role in the overall story.


So basically Tim may not be TTA because they may have retconned the story. Did they actually say they were retconning the story? Like to the point where the events I outlined didn't happen? 'Cause that would be kinda messed up. Again, awkward plot twist.

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