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onetruepurple
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 		Good post... except pravado is 100% right and you're frothing because of some sense of self entitlement.

Don't pirate from indies, Jesus.

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Zachariah Pajarito
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onetruepurple wrote:
Good post... except pravado is 100% right and you're frothing because of some sense of self entitlement.

Don't pirate from indies, Jesus.



Lol I'm half trolling. but I mean, it is based around free entertainment and I think worrying about it's kind of silly. also I love frothing.

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twistedpuppet
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pravado wrote:
ThinSuit wrote:
Could someone please be nice enough to post the mh trailer on youtube ?


that's copyright infringement, and i'm sure trosephim wouldn't want anyone doing that. it's one of the features that gets people to buy the dvds. stop being cheap, it's $14 shipped. save your lunch money if you have none to spare. you don't deserve to get to see the bonus features unless you buy the dvd imo


I thought that if he really wanted to see it, he could ask Troy to post it on his out of game youtube. That way the creators are the ones posting it and there's no copyright infringement.

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pravado
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twistedpuppet wrote:
pravado wrote:
ThinSuit wrote:
Could someone please be nice enough to post the mh trailer on youtube ?


that's copyright infringement, and i'm sure trosephim wouldn't want anyone doing that. it's one of the features that gets people to buy the dvds. stop being cheap, it's $14 shipped. save your lunch money if you have none to spare. you don't deserve to get to see the bonus features unless you buy the dvd imo


I thought that if he really wanted to see it, he could ask Troy to post it on his out of game youtube. That way the creators are the ones posting it and there's no copyright infringement.


i'd put money down that troy would not even respond, or just say "lol no" - why would people buy the dvd if they could just watch all the bonus features online

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twistedpuppet
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 		True, but it would solve the problem of copyright infringement and it never hurts to ask. The worst that can happen is he says no or doesn't respond at all. Razz

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 		Troy is only pro-Creative Commons if he makes a statement saying that he's in favor of Creative Commons (which is still a license, like copyright; it's just not codified into law).

Let's not put words into Troy's mouth and not upload things unless he specifically states on his blog (or here, though that's unlikely) that he's okay with it.

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Foood
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onetruepurple wrote:
Foood wrote:
You can't even see what clothes the person in Entry #29 is wearing..

You can, actually (personally I'm willing to call it a goof like the self-closing laptop in #52 though).


Okay, good point. I knew you could see clothes, but I always thought they were too dark to tell if they were Jay's or not. The sleeve appears dark blue, as opposed to Jay's brown jacket.

pravado wrote:
just pointing out that a few days or weeks had passed in between alex killing the guy and jay finding that file on his computer.


If you're making a point about the fresh blood... the Operator took the body. We have no clue where the body went during that time.

pravado wrote:
anyone could have broke in and put it there, or hacked it in there. i'm leaning towards it's someone besides jay, most likely tim.


Okay, but I doubt that Tim would've tracked down Jay so quickly. It seems that Entry #33 was soon after he discovered Jay's location. Especially since the totheark videos start right after that.

pravado wrote:
to say the camera teleported into jays hand is a huge stretch


If Jay could pick up a shirt, he could pick up a camera off the ground.



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Do you really want to make Troseph angry? They're actual people that seem like pretty chill guys, unlike big entertainment companies and whatever normally gets pirated.

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pravado
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 		tim did find jay quickly though. entry 35 was less than a week away from 26, and tim clearly followed him from his hometown to the rosswood park's town since the two are nowhere near each other.

as far as the camera, i can see the handheld teleportation thing, but it's still a huge stretch, i'd like to think they're better writers than that.


i'm not going to spend time arguing the shirt color theory because it's even more of a stretch than the camera teleportation thing.

one last thing: the blood from entry 29 was fresh. during entry 52 (which took place days later), it would have been dry. this is why i don't think it takes place during then.

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Blank_Zero
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 		Got it.

There was a red stamped Operator symbol on the envelope. Very Happy

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 		Foood, well, I figured, if you asked nicely and they said no they would not like to post the trailer on their out of game youtube, then that would be the end of it. I wouldn't think a simple question would piss them off. :/

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Location: I'm lost, let's ask that bald, tall, faceless guy in a business suit.

 		Well, there's also a lot of fans which are not from USA. I'm from Argentina, and I know a couple of people who would buy the DVD, and so will I, but believe me, it's way more complicated to get in this country. There are some policies over USA's shipments, I don't really know what the hell... So getting DVDs is a little complicated. That's why I haven't bought mines yet, I'm going to wait untill S3 is finished and buy them all at once, but still there's a huge risk of never getting them...

So yeah, that's why they should post some of the special features... Otherwise, I'm never going to see that fake trailer, and God knows I have fucking tried to buy those damn DVDs. I'm just asking for that, I'm not pretending they post the commentary. Just special features: Trailer and blooper reel.
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pravado
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 		That's not exactly a valid reason. argentinians can get packages from the United States. There's no country that restricts packages from coming in from another country. Make a better effort to get it if you want to see the clip.

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ReverendJ
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Zachariah Pajarito wrote:
I mean, who cares? you're an asshole stfu.
if you want to see it badly, torrent it. Listen, I bought the dvd, both of them, and a shirt. just don't understand why it's a big deal. you realize Troy and company are barely making any money of those sales, right? there's a shit load of middle men involved. and Troy is OBVIOUSLY pro-creative commons, since he mad AN ENTIRE SERIES WITH TWO SEASONS of free entertainment and released it to the public.
if you're a fan, and you appreciate it, buy it. but there's no reason that one shouldn't put the five minute trailer on line. seriously, shut the fuck up, you pathetic piece of shit.
There already is a free version of it on youtube.

Anyone who copies off the DVDs to upload what is not already made available by the creators are the assholes in this scenario.

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Foood
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pravado wrote:
tim did find jay quickly though. entry 35 was less than a week away from 26, and tim clearly followed him from his hometown to the rosswood park's town since the two are nowhere near each other.


That was way before Alex even murdered the bearded guy, so it's not like Tim could've acquired the footage, broken into Jay's car and put it on his laptop if the murder hadn't even happened yet (unless the body was sent back in time). Plus, Entry 35 was during the time that Jay was sleeping in his car and being actively stalked by TTA.

Just because Tim is capable of finding Jay quickly doesn't mean that he always can. After Jay checked in to the hotel, it took almost two months for Tim to show up there. If he followed Jay and Jessica and somehow kept up with them after they fled from Alex, then I'm sure Tim would've showed up much sooner.

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as far as the camera, i can see the handheld teleportation thing, but it's still a huge stretch, i'd like to think they're better writers than that.


They're also better writers than to include more than one chest camera in the series.

Right after Jay teleports, the camera cuts out completely, and then cuts back in facing an entirely different angle, AND it's right next to his hand. If the camera didn't teleport, or Jay didn't take it and leave, then how did it get moved?

As far as I'm concerned, we only see Jay teleport on-camera to show that it happens there. He was holding the camera when he tackled/got sucked in to the Operator, so it would make sense they got "attacked" and teleported as a group.

pravado wrote:
i'm not going to spend time arguing the shirt color theory because it's even more of a stretch than the camera teleportation thing.


This theory?
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Foood wrote:
onetruepurple wrote:
Foood wrote:
You can't even see what clothes the person in Entry #29 is wearing..

You can, actually (personally I'm willing to call it a goof like the self-closing laptop in #52 though).

Okay, good point. I knew you could see clothes, but I always thought they were too dark to tell if they were Jay's or not. The sleeve appears dark blue, as opposed to Jay's brown jacket.


is not even a theory, just some speculation since nothing is trying to get proved.

pravado wrote:
one last thing: the blood from entry 29 was fresh. during entry 52 (which took place days later), it would have been dry. this is why i don't think it takes place during then.


Addressed this in the last post. The only blood that was left behind from the attack in Entry #49 was a little bit on the rock. In Entry #29, we see a shirt, a ton more blood, and there could possibly be a body in the dark, so all that stuff was teleported back later on. Who's to say that the majority of the blood would've dried up in the place that the Operator took it? We're talking about an otherworldly being here. Could've been the vacuum of space. Could've just time-travelled. Who knows...


I might be coming off as extremely persistent about this, but I'm really not trying to "prove I'm right" here. I'm just adding my speculation/theories to the growing pool of "maybes". Aaaand I have a pet peeve for bullshit arguments so I try my best to disprove those too.

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 		I for one am bummed that the Twitter feed did not include any responses to us, the audience. Other than that, the DVD was quite nice.
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