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[TRAILHEAD] Ridley Scott's Prometheus Viral...
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IcedMetal
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Probably irrelevant now but the three symbols on the PP login page look an awful lot like the symbols above the airlocks in Alien.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:40 am
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Hey guys, 1st post, but old time lurker here and no stranger to ARG's, having crossed blades directly with the rather obnoxious author of The Last Staircase, among others.

First, a salude to the great work you guys have done so far. I've been passively monitoring the viral from a distance, and finally got sucked into it when I ran across and digested this thread earlier this evening.

Abandon all hope ye who eneter here!

This whole thing touches on a subject I've been immersed in all my life, having been a Von Daniken fan since childhood. I know some here are a bit let down by the nuts and bolts of this campaign, but back up now and again, and take in the bigger picture, and you'll realize they have made an impressive show of touching on some of the most fascinating enigmas from the dawn of our species' civilization. These enigmas are true thorns in the side of dogmatic Anthropology, refusing to be explained away, no matter how hard people try to refute them; they simply are what they are, and at the end of the day, I personally don't think we know jack shit about who/what we are, and how we came to be here, so its awesome to see Scott take such a compelling and controversial subject and drag it into the light, for many, the first time they've been exposed to any of it.

So don't let the hyperfocus required to crack the ARG prevent you from appreciating that, is all I'm saying. I take a lot of this for granted having studied all of it for so long, but there is some really fascinating shit for you guys to absorb when time permits, and none of it is fictitious, at least on the part of the Prometheus production team.

To make a contribution here, the first thing I noticed when I hit the Investor Information page was the download option, which to me is the key to everything on this page.

As some others have already noticed, there are ominous discrepancies in the web and jpg data on David 7's emotional values.

There is also this:



What I decided to do was take full screen shots of the entire page, and overlay the jpg's against them, which to me was the most efficient means of discovering any discrepancies. This is made slightly challenging by the fact that none of the elements lay true to one another between web and jpg, they are all fucked up, seemingly by design, but its very obvious that there is a difference in Yytrium values between web and jpg.

Not sure if this means anything, but I would say this is well beyond a frame misalignment error and looks pretty conspicuous to me.

There is also a smaller discrepancy in the Cobalt value as well.

What I orginally wanted to do was generate an animated of the entire page, so anyone could scan and easliy pick up any changes between web/jpg, but doing so will be a task as each element needs to be aligned by hand; *nothing* matches as it should.

So instead, I'll share anything else I discover that really sticks out like this.

For the hell of it, I'll also create on for the David 7 data and post that as well, so the team has a visual reference for that one, too. Given the context of Ash's malfunction, and other anecdotes we know, I don't see this as a red herring. If the trailers show anything, they depict David's role as a rogue saboteur.

I'll also create an overlay of the observed star pattern in the background an juxtapose it against the orion constellation. I can see the similarity, but I don't think its a 1:1 match (three starts in orion's belt, ie), but we'll soon know for sure.

Some random observations not directly relevant to the ARG:

I've seen some comments here and there about the full length trailer's dialogue about a King and his passing. This is voiced by Charlize Theron, and imo, is an obvious reference to Sir Peter Weyland. The poorly resolved data on Weyland's status as living or dead point to what is possibly a large chunk of sub-plot that has been concealed up to now. I'm taking all this in and given the references to Alchemy, and the strange Weyland patents on restoring life, it seems very possible that part of the initiative of the Prometheus expedition is to obtain and apply [insert your choice of words here] to Weyland to bring him back to life. Theron is a Company woman, don't forget that part. She serves Weyland's interests, above all others.

Putting a few bits together, with the Eitr talk here and some speculation about the Ampule Room, in the trailer you see the organic matter organizing on the wall. You then see what appears to be a a bass relief of the Xenomorph, which may or may not be that organic material reacting to the Hominid presence in the chamber. Speculation was the material organizes into a life form best optimized to neutralize the life form it targets. The 'acid for blood'/Eitr thread is kinda neat to consider in that context.

Its also fun to consider that after all the advancements that Weyland made, at the end of his time, same as Newton, he fell onto the ancient texts and turned to Alchemy to preserve his own life, searching the Galaxy for the requisite elements. That possible sub-plot dovetails nicely with classic tragedy/irony tales.

Keep up the good work!

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Bust on the Orion constellation.



PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:02 am
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Re: Remaining Cosmic Call 2 Messages

elegantworm wrote:
Something odd I noticed about 3/5 Cosmic Call 2 messages received.

According to the banner the current year is 2073

Assuming that the Cosmic Call messages were received in the chronological order they were sent, the 4th message should have arrived at HD 10307 Andromeda in 2044. The 5th message should have arrived at HD 95128 Ursa Major in 2049. This seems a bit inconsistent. Unless, "3/5 Cosmic Call 2 messages received" means a reply from the Cosmic Call destinations? Which means that they have received 3 reply messages, from intelligent life? seems odd.


I noticed this too. And I'm with you.

I'm assuming that "Received" implies that a reply was received.
Just for the fact that all five Cosmic Calls should have already hit their destinations.

The problem, is that if you were to assume the same reply speed that the original messages were sent, only one of the replies would have been received by 2073.

Hip 4872 Cassiopeia
Arrival: 2036
33 Years
Reply: 2069

HD 245409 Orion
Arrival: 2040
37 Years
Reply: 2077

HD 75732 Cancer
Arrival: 2044
41 Years
Reply: 2085

HD 10307 Andromeda
Arrival: 2044
41 Years
Reply: 2085

HD 95128 Ursa Major
Arrival: 2049
46 Years
Reply: 2095

Even taking the Project's launch date of 2081 into consideration, only two replies could have been received by that time.

Perhaps it's just an over-sight on the PMs parts.

Perhaps it's just presumptuousness to assume the transmission speeds of an alien race in a fictional universe.
But, it would be a bit unfair to base a puzzle off of a part of lore that there, very likely, isn't any canon for.

So, is this something? Or is it just sloppy lore work?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:09 am
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Module 1.4, David 7 data, web -vs- jpg:



PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:15 am
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index wrote:
Module 1.4, David 7 data, web -vs- jpg:
[...]


Thanks index. That is a massive discrepancy. They can't of been so sloppy. Does it perhaps hint at a marketing strategy, suggesting that Weyland Corp fudges its numbers? A theme to this maybe?

And I agree, the download thing is superfluous. It must have some relevance to the puzzle.

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index wrote:
Bust on the Orion constellation.



Is there any relevance to the investment page banners? They look like star charts, with the stars being interconnected.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:35 am
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ChrisPachi wrote:
Does it perhaps hint at a marketing strategy, suggesting that Weyland Corp fudges its numbers? A theme to this maybe?


I think a conscientious web design team member is leaking evidence which proves that Weyland is falsifying data it provides for its shareholders..

Twisted Evil

I don't know if its an ARG clue or not, it seems more like a supplemental anecdote for the film's plot, but I could be wrong.

Its a well-established fact that there are issues with the Weyland Androids. As someone pointed out earlier, the fact that the Bishop model malfunctioned is a pretty safe calibration point to suggest problems in earlier models.

The way David goes Geek-Retard when he's looking at the gooey amoeba stuff really says it all, haha..

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Anyone else think it's more then coincidence that we have two modules in the Investment section, and there's also two messages left to find in the Cosmic Call?

I'd guess there's two links to find, each one using a clue sourced from each section.

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da_scottster wrote:
Anyone else think it's more then coincidence that we have two modules in the Investment section, and there's also two messages left to find in the Cosmic Call?

I'd guess there's two links to find, each one using a clue sourced from each section.


Also waiting for Module B on the main page to open, which given the image there and the information received so far will have something to do with the announcement of the David 8 model.

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IcedMetal wrote:
Is there any relevance to the investment page banners? They look like star charts, with the stars being interconnected.


I'm pretty sure we are looking at some manner of star chart, but I do not recognize the pattern shown. I was an avid amateur astronomer in the late 90's and had half the sky memorized at one point, but I'm rusty and honestly, I confined my viewing to Winter constellations in the northern hemisphere.

Xenomporphs got nothing on Everglades Salt Marsh Mosquitoes, dude.

There's also an entire hemisphere down south, although in the context seen here, I'm pretty sure the ARG is confined to Northern constellations.

Matching that pattern shown above is kinda like uh..looking for a needle in a stack of needles. Not impossible, but very, very tedious. I'd start with Orion and work my way out.

Google Sky can safely be abandoned as a reasearch tool:

Link

What a disaster..online resources for quality star charts & planispheres could definitely be improved..

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da_scottster wrote:
Anyone else think it's more then coincidence that we have two modules in the Investment section, and there's also two messages left to find in the Cosmic Call?

I'd guess there's two links to find, each one using a clue sourced from each section.


earlier, over on twitter, jst_thinking mentioned that perhaps the cosmic call is referring to 3 of 5 puzzles already solved -which is what it sounded like to me at the time, considering the number of weyland industries sections remaining as well as the number of wallpapers we retrieved thus far.

to me, a literal deciphering of which cosmic call 2s were received wouldn't seem necessary or sufficiently applicable information at the moment; and, it could be any combination of three calls received. possibly ftl tech application in communication?

and, if it's in fact 2 puzzles left, they would either have to stretch the time frame to near its release or change the game up somehow. otherwise it might be like other movie virals that kinda died off or remain idle for quite awhile.

but, to the contrary, also the project progress on module 2.4 is barely past 2, which could mean hope for more stuff beyond 2 puzzles left to go.

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index wrote:
IcedMetal wrote:
Is there any relevance to the investment page banners? They look like star charts, with the stars being interconnected.


I'm pretty sure we are looking at some manner of star chart, but I do not recognize the pattern shown. I was an avid amateur astronomer in the late 90's and had half the sky memorized at one point, but I'm rusty and honestly, I confined my viewing to Winter constellations in the northern hemisphere.

Xenomporphs got nothing on Everglades Salt Marsh Mosquitoes, dude.

There's also an entire hemisphere down south, although in the context seen here, I'm pretty sure the ARG is confined to Northern constellations.

Matching that pattern shown above is kinda like uh..looking for a needle in a stack of needles. Not impossible, but very, very tedious. I'd start with Orion and work my way out.

Google Sky can safely be abandoned as a reasearch tool:

Link

What a disaster..online resources for quality star charts & planispheres could definitely be improved..


http://www.wikisky.org/

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Ok; I left work 5 minutes before the Eridu page was cracked, put the kids to bed just as the 245409 page was opened and I went to bed just as the Investor Information page was released.

Basically, I think that this whole thing is based on me being away from a computer Sad

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IcedMetal wrote:
I'd guess there's two links to find, each one using a clue sourced from each section.


I'm inclined to agree; there are two download jpg's, and the discrepancies in the investinyourfuture.jpg were obvious, but I have scanned the financial report numerous times now and nothing is appearing, so if there is clues there, they are not going to be found by comparing the web/jpg data.

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