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[TRAILHEAD] Ridley Scott's Prometheus Viral...
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powereddie
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 		"Assets" Forbidden
Hello all! First time poster, but following for a while here and in
facebook. I have discovered something weird 30 minutes ago (I donīt remember reading it here or anywhere else)...
So in the investor Database what we are shown mostly are all the assets the company has,... so I tried: http://www.projectprometheus.com/assets/ and got a 403 error, which could mean a lot of things (i.e. no content in the directory, the recent move to another host, coul be a hiccup of the actual "401 error", etc).
Following this I tried different products, services and combinations that Wayland Industries offers and could be related to PP

What do you computer saavy guys think?

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stee_w
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 		Re: "Assets" Forbidden
powereddie wrote:
Hello all! First time poster, but following for a while here and in
facebook. I have discovered something weird 30 minutes ago (I donīt remember reading it here or anywhere else)...
So in the investor Database what we are shown mostly are all the assets the company has,... so I tried: http://www.projectprometheus.com/assets/ and got a 403 error, which could mean a lot of things (i.e. no content in the directory, the recent move to another host, coul be a hiccup of the actual "401 error", etc).
Following this I tried different products, services and combinations that Wayland Industries offers and could be related to PP

What do you computer saavy guys think?


That is a valid directory, as it is where the images already unlocked are located (e.ghttp://www.projectprometheus.com/assets/3/tsdaf7823jk23.jpg, however we don't have permission to view the directory 'coz we'd then be able to see what they want us to unlock without doing anything!

Also, I've compared the Orrery 'glyphs' and cannot seem to find any correlation between them and the Ugaritic script; there are similarities, but no more than any of the other cuneiform 'alphabets' I've looked at to compare!

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DrBunker
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blackfeathers wrote:
tictacs should be an arg meme if it wasn't already Smile


thumbnails naming isn't consistent:

assets/1/thumb_1.jpg

assets/2/t89023kjjksddsf.jpg

assets/3/tsdaf7823jk23.jpg

there's no thumb_2.jpg btw.

Is it me or do the 2nd and 3rd ones seem like absolute randomness? The repeated j, k, s, d and f's are what happen whenever you try to randomly hit the keyboard. Why would they call the 1st one a logical name and then do that. Confused
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2fray2
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blackfeathers wrote:


thumbnails naming isn't consistent:

assets/2/t89023kjjksddsf.jpg



maybe another star system ?

HD 89023

http://server1.sky-map.org/starview?object_type=1&object_id=452066&object_name=HD+89023&locale=NL

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DrBunker
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AVITWeb wrote:
Just realized that NONE of the picture descriptions on the updated site are finished....Almost like they ran out of character space.

"This image leaked after intrepid Weyland Investors detected a regular pulse emanating from a distant star. Once the pulse was decoded as 6EQUJ5, a pattern known as "the Wow! Signal," avid Investors used it to hack into a hidden directory on WeylandIndustr"

"Perceptive Weyland Investors found a mention in the Weyland Corporation's Investor Information of "Cosmic Call 2", a radio message sent from Earth in 2003. When the text from Call 2 was used as a password, this image was discovered on Weyland Corporation"

"Weyland Investors who dialed **WEYLAND heard a reference to Eridu, an ancient city highly relevant to the Prometheus Project. Through diligent research, these Investors determined that entering Eridu's current name, "tell abu shahrain," granted access to"

Somebody's gettin fired!...just sloppy!

Or SMS limit?

Each of the three paragraphs is 255 characters long, the last two have spaces at the end as the final character. Assuming this information wasn't texted into the developers by the PMs there must be a logic behind the lengths.
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2fray2
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DrBunker wrote:
Each of the three paragraphs is 255 characters long, the last two have spaces at the end as the final character. Assuming this information wasn't texted into the developers by the PMs there must be a logic behind the lengths.


RGB 255-255-255
Hex #FFFFF

???

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deezelboy
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DrBunker wrote:

Each of the three paragraphs is 255 characters long, the last two have spaces at the end as the final character. Assuming this information wasn't texted into the developers by the PMs there must be a logic behind the lengths.


255 characters is a pretty common limit for a string field on a database. Suspect it's just an error.

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 		If it is, what a shocking error to make! I always preview my posts on here to make sure they read correctly - surely they'd at least do that!

Maybe they need more David 7s in the office and ditch the old 1 series...
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 		The AVP link on the last page gave a 404; here is a link to the new TV spot (#3):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JudFWtHauCg

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 		is there something between David and Vickers ? Robolove ?

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 		Peter Weyland and Prometheus
Everex wrote:
". . . "David 1

Weyland manufactures the first advanced android prototype model of its kind. He is affectionately called David, a name Sir Peter Weyland had initially reserved for his own human son."

Why did he use the name reserved for his son, is he sterile? Surely with genetics in this timeline, something like sterility shouldnt matter.

"Cybernetic Individual Patented

Weyland Industries earns patent number 8,128,899 for Method and Apparatus for cybernetic individuals for use in scientific and industrial environments.
August 5, 2023"

I think our next clue revolves around these things.


Don't expect a bombshell in this late night ramble, but I wanted to attempt piece together some threads previously brought up in discussion here across varying topics, so bear with me and I hope you'll hold off on the trouting. Very Happy I've been away from ARGs for a while, so my presentation will be a bit rusty, not to mention wordy. Sorry for that.

My goal here is to explore more about Peter Weyland and what the sketches of his life's work may tell us about the ARG...and eventually the film.

Everex, quoted above, raised the point about Peter naming the android series David, a name "initially reserved for his own human son." This implies he may not have had a biological son to name David, and thus used the name on his only other 'progeny' as it were.

If so, might not this suggest the building theme of Prometheus in a larger sense of the myth, certainly including the previous discussion of its relationship to Frankenstein: the modern Prometheus? Is Peter Weyland a man, personally and professionally, interested in (obsessed with?) creating life?

From the WI timeline: he cures cancer in 2022; gives the "Building Better Worlds" TED speech next year; creates David 1 in 2025; privatizes Kepler to find bio-compatible worlds; David 2; stasis discovered with no practical use (yet); creates atmosphere processing -> terraforming; hypersleep chambers patented -> lengthy space travel/discovery of planets and so on.

Everex raised the question about Peter Weyland not having a son and wondering why sterility might be a problem given all the genetic research happening. Good point. But is it that sterility is a personal problem for Weyland, or is it a larger issue among Earth's population?

I can understand Weyland's personal need to build androids so exact they can't be distinguished from humans — especially if he has some internal 'life creating' issue himself. But has anyone wondered: given how our current population is growing and natural resources diminishing accordingly, why the sudden urge to ADD androids to the workforce and world services at large? If human population continued expanding, shouldn't there be, loosely, too many people for not enough jobs... or at least not enough room on Earth to give them all jobs?

On the WI Investors Info page, Module 1.2 shows the number of deaths declining from 2020 to 2070, apparently thanks to the rise in distribution of Weyland health care products. But the chart title is actually tracking "Deaths prevented" as humans are living on average into their late-80s or 90s (mod 1.1). It says nothing about the state of the human population, which might be a little like saying you hit a home run while losing the game 12-1. Given that lower death trend, shouldn't those not dying from cancer at much younger ages be crowding the world's workforce (not to mention draining its resources)? Shouldn't an abundance of healthy human labor be much cheaper than creating expensive androids to work for us, assuming there should be too many humans in need of work/food/living space? Or is the world overpopulated with healthy but old people, and workers?

Meanwhile, trying to piece together four facts: Peter wins Nobel "for his extraordinary atmospheric work over the polar ice cap" in 2017; Weyland cures cancer in 2022; give "Building Better Worlds" TED speech 2023; patents atmosphere processing 2029. Working on the "atmosphere" in Antarctica sparked the issue with Earth's ozone layer in my head, followed by Pete's cure for cancer. Is there a reason why one followed the other, or indeed were the two related? While Peter not having a biological son may be one issue, is there are larger problem with Earth's population declining, perhaps due to cancer brought on by environmental issues? The death rate declines thanks to WI, but it takes 50 years to hit full effect according to the chart, and supposedly Peter never lives to see that number dip to its lowest point in 2070.

If so, was Peter 'spreading his bets' by attempting to fix the atmosphere (or learn if it's possible) while also firing a second medical round to create the magic cancer bullet? If it's his mission to build better worlds, what is prompting that desire, personally or professionally? Is Peter attempting to (re)give the gift of life back to Earth in any way he can?

If he can't fix the atmosphere, he'll cure cancer. If neither of those work fast enough, he'll build synthetic people to create a workforce which can help him do jobs 1 and 2. If Earth is still shot, then Peter will find other worlds to make habitable and move people there?

However he slices his mission, is Peter Weyland attempting to "play God" by resparking the prospects of human life... on Earth or elsewhere?

Quickly to the Prometheus/Frankenstein connection to look at Peter's life from the end game:

Peter is born in 1990 and dies sometime before 2065, if we're to gauge it by the building of his memorial library that year. He lived roughly 74 years.

Yet... in the recent live chat with Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof for the trailer premiere, Scott confirmed that Guy Pearce would appear as Peter in the film (which takes place around 2085 per their chat). Peter should be 20 years dead by then, yet Scott stated in a very cagey reply to a fan question, "by that time Mr. Pearce is a slightly older man. I'm not going to go any farther than that."

So, is the flipside of Peter Weyland's 'obsession' with preserving life a factor in attempting to prolong or extend his own life?

Following the thread of related techno-advances by Weyland on the timeline: he discovers stasis in 2028 and "the search for a practical application begins"; hypersleep chambers introduced in 2030; Lifeboat patented as "ejectable luxury pod able to sustain one human life for up to 50 years" in 2057; Medpod "first fully-automated diagnosis and surgical station" patented in 2061; and Weyland is dead by 2065.

Yet by 2085, "Mr. Pearce is a slightly older man" than he appeared in 2023 (age 32) when he should be dead 20 years already?

Was he just inventing technologies like stasis and hypersleep chambers to facilitate long-term space travel to new worlds (to inhabit), or was he inventing his own life-prolonging tech to forestall his own death and then finding a "practical" application for them after the fact? Come on, who invents stasis or hypersleep without a goal in mind?! Only after the fact did he invent a corporate use for these discoveries... when all his previous tech invested in finding bio-habitable worlds predate these discoveries. Indeed no one would search for distant habitable worlds without considering how to extend human lives to survive the journey to them. Yet his practical application for stasis took two years to introduce, a whole year AFTER he patented atmosphere processing. In short, he invented a way to keep the body of dying from old age (or disease) long before he invented ways to process atmospheres of distant worlds, put crews in hypersleep to live on the journey AND invent FTL travel to get to those worlds so they would NEED stasis to go there. Seems like he put the cart before the horse, and then took years to invent a harness to give the horse a job.

Here's the kicker: in 2071, WI patents the Synapse Reestablisher a "device able to temporarily restart brain activity of deceased individuals." That is roughly 5-6 years AFTER Peter Weyland dies... supposedly. But did he die, or was he put in stasis to be reanimated, reborn, given a second spark from the fire of life after his death/suspended animation? Sounds like pure Frankenstein to me. Did Peter Weyland invent the "Walt Disney" treatment for himself so he could go on living, to see his ultimate plans for regifting life to mankind become realized? And are androids his "creation" to invent people who (eventually) can't die?

Is he living out the Prometheus myth... and curse? Is he the 21st century Frankenstein finally shattering the boundary between human life and death? Does Peter Weyland become his own creature? And does his possible survival to give this gift to humanity — call it immortality or merely cheating death — become humanity's curse? Does all his work to avoid the death of Earth, to find other worlds and make them habitable, only lead to the discovery of what Promethean secret first sparked humanity to life? And does discovery of that "forbidden knowledge of the gods" potentially spell "our end" as the trailer warns? Do all his efforts to prolong human life only lead to a journey which may doom humanity after all?

Does Peter Weyland possibly live to see his dream turn to nightmare in 2085, and does his "eternal" life-after-death become his unending Promethean punishment once we stumble upon the ultimate bad news we were never intended to discover?

If you read this far, thanks for your indulgence and attention. Cheers.

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2fray2 wrote:
is there something between David and Vickers ? Robolove ?


My guess:

David body, Weyland brain.

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 		3 images found after wccf-73:module A was unlocked, so my guess would be that we'll know what to do for the other 3 after module B is unlocked Confused no?

FilmEdge, that's all very interesting and it does make sense, great post Smile
Weyland may be dead, physically, but his mind might be uploaded to an android boby sort of GladOs of Portal' style haha

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 		@Filmedge: well-met, and cool dialogue; I've pondered many of the same things.

I always come back to this POV:

When you start talking Alchemy, the end goal is the Elixer of Life, which simply stated, is Immortality. A person as brilliant as Weyland's character would probably have as poor an emotional level as the early David's, as well, or at least the appearance of, being so absorbed in higher concepts that emotions and relationships would most likely be an inconvenience and distraction. He would be..selfish.

That kind of mind always seems to prioritize extending its own life, as opposed to 'immortality' through progeny; to a mind like Weyland's, who cares about what comes after if he's not there to play a role.

Ultimately, I see all Weyland's achievements to his race being of secondary importance to the impact they have on his own ambitions & goals.

Back to the film:

In one of the clips, there is a figure in a wheel chair, in the scene where Shaw collapses in front of a group in what looks like a mess hall.

This could be Weyland, maybe.

?

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 		One other point on Weyland - I had noticed the 'memorial library' entry earlier (I won't so far as to trout you because it was probably about 50 pages back!); however, he is still listed on the site as the CEO.

If he was dead (or an emotional construct within an android), surely he would be listed as honorary CEO or similar?

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