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[TRAILHEAD] Ridley Scott's Prometheus Viral...
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AVITWeb
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 		What exactly is a Hiderman program?

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 		It is a program that allows you to hide files or messages within other files.

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 		Damn Shocked

Hi know "how to" with a *.BMP file but not with a JPG..

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DrBunker
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 		I'd go for false positive. Anyway, it only leaves us with yet another password to find!
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Dravenz
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DrBunker wrote:
I'd go for false positive. Anyway, it only leaves us with yet another password to find!


I would tend to agree until I can have a look in more detail.

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 		Re: Stego
Dravenz wrote:
Hey all,

I am at work so couldn't look into this in too much detail but I have run a quick check on the Weyland Thumbprint image.

And got the attached results.

While I had the program up I ran a check on all the other files I have downloaded over the course of the Viral/ARG.

One of them I got an interesting result!!!

The original starmap image from the 6EQUJ (Wow Signal) link on the WI site gave the result in the 2nd attachment.

Quote:
Steganography found at marker position 6015820 Hiderman program detected!


Unfortunately, as mentioned, I am at work and can not look further.

Is anyone else in the position where this could be investigated?

I used StegSpy2.1 to run the steganalysis.



I just installed the copy of Hiderman I could find, and grabbed a fresh copy of the starmap jpg from the WI site. Hiderman says "This file doesn't hide any file". Crying or Very sad

[edit] To clarify, I grabbed the starmap JPG from the PP website, and StegSpy also said there were no stegs. I checked the file you posted (prometheusmovie-starmap-big.jpg) and StegSpy does show Hiderman. However, when I feed either into Hiderman, it comes up with no hidden files.

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 		Re: Stego
Dravenz wrote:
Hey all,

I am at work so couldn't look into this in too much detail but I have run a quick check on the Weyland Thumbprint image.

And got the attached results.

While I had the program up I ran a check on all the other files I have downloaded over the course of the Viral/ARG.

One of them I got an interesting result!!!

The original starmap image from the 6EQUJ (Wow Signal) link on the WI site gave the result in the 2nd attachment.

Quote:
Steganography found at marker position 6015820 Hiderman program detected!


Unfortunately, as mentioned, I am at work and can not look further.

Is anyone else in the position where this could be investigated?

I used StegSpy2.1 to run the steganalysis.

Attachments are as follows:

Thumb Print Image
Result from thumb print image
Original starmap image
Result from starmap image

Hope this leads to something interesting.


I tried the same piece of software you did on the starmap image and got nothing!

Weird?!?!?

I was thinking of Steganography myself but wasn't sure where to go with it. I hope they open something up soon or at least give us some clues because this is getting boring now

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 		Re: Stegano
2fray2 wrote:
DUDES ! Does someone tried Steganography ?



http://www.guillermito2.net/stegano/jsteg/index.html

What's the source of that image? (I have checked back ten pages to avoid another trouting...)

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 		Re: Stegano
davedubya wrote:
What's the source of that image?


https://www.weylandindustries.com/img/wc_hp_npthumb.jpg

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 		So, apart from the lovely weather, I now have another reason to wish I was at home! Cursing

I can see about 5 images on the front page of the WI website alone that might be worth further investigation, but my suggestion would be the Investor Information jpeg files - that might be why they're downloadable...

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ytsemaddy
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stee_w wrote:
So, apart from the lovely weather, I now have another reason to wish I was at home! Cursing

I can see about 5 images on the front page of the WI website alone that might be worth further investigation, but my suggestion would be the Investor Information jpeg files - that might be why they're downloadable...


I just checked these files from WI, and no steg found:

wc_hp_npthumb.jpg (thumbprint)
wc_ii_invest-banner.jpg (Invest 1.0)
WeylandInvestInYourFuture.jpg (first downloadable jpg)
wc_ii_financial_highlights_banner.jpg (Invest 2.0)
WeylandFinancialHighlights.jpg (second downloadable jpg)

I checked out the Prometheus star map jpg in a hex editor, and did find the Hiderman signature, but Hiderman can't seem to decrypt it. Also found plenty of fun, if irrelevant, EXIF and Photoshop info.

[edit] Also checked these, with no results:

timeline-img.jpg (terraforming images)
wc_au_001.jpg (about us globe)
wc_hp_tedthumb.jpg (TED picture from front page)

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 		I remember checking a load of images a million or so pages ago but found nothing. Unless I'm mistaken we'd need to be given a password to unhide the image anyway...
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ytsemaddy
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DrBunker wrote:
I remember checking a load of images a million or so pages ago but found nothing. Unless I'm mistaken we'd need to be given a password to unhide the image anyway...


That's very true, but at least we have a large database of possible passwords to try.

Since the starmap image I grabbed off WI was different from the one we originally had (specifically that the older one sets off the stego alarm) I did a diff. There's an entire block of data in the old one that's not in the new one on PP.com. Unfortunately, I don't know what to do with it yet.

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 		WCCF-73: MODULE B
Our Family is Growing
I neither tweet nor facebook. Perhaps someone could tweet #weylandinvestors and ask if the module will be opened without any further effort on the part of ARG participants or if the opening of the module is contingent on solving for one or more of the remaing 3 images on projectprometheus.com.

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 		@PrometheusMovie just tweeted: "Big things have small beginnings." #Prometheus

Hint?

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