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 		Pardon my impending randomnes.
I feel awkwad. Um.

Okay, so basically I've been kind of stalking these forums for the past two days over my progressively swelling obsessoin with Marble Hornes and its speculations, partly because of its addictiveness and partly because of this little morbid crush I have formed on Masky. Yeah. Masky. And as for the aforementioned entity that nobody has seemed to clearly clarify as of yet, I was wondering if this would be the appropriate place and time to state my opinion of him and questions I have about Entry 54 despite the fact that hasn't seem to be the object of discussion for a little while....

Ehem. So, yeah. If I was should have posted in some introductuctory-type forum and didn't or if there was some other way of greeting the world and its inhabitants before I came here that I missed, I apologize. I wasn't originally planning on doing this, but I can no longer resists. I need my curiosities on Masky deviated upon for people to clarify these nagging ignorances I have.

Firstly, I remember somebody in the thread stating that Tim is generally a bad liar (because of his hesitance to tell Jay where exactly he got the camera) but I personally did not pick that up from him...it seems to me like his lack of knowledge that he is Masky is entirely genuine; especailly when we all know that after you "wake up" form being hypnotized courtesy of Slendy's mind tricks, your memory is theoretically whiped out. Plus, the slendysickness and stuff. So yeah. I always thought that Masky was basically Tim being controlled at night and then waking up the next morning or whatever not remembering anything, so in a sense, they kind of ARE like two different people.

Like I said, Tim seemed entirely unaware of his Masky persona in this video, but nonetheless, weren't there more than one Maskies in the same shot in another entry some time back? Or am I remembering something wrong? Just the same, I do believe that there is more than one Masky, but what's specail about Tim-Masky is that he's kinda like "the main cahoona," or the one that we see most often, the one that Slendy affects all of the time. That is, if Slendy affeting him is the only thing that causes his behavoir, because while Masky has been seen as threatning or dangerous, he never really seemed to hurt Jay. In fact, if anything, he's been protecting him (saving his and Jessica's lives, cough, cough), which makes him seem pretty bipolar, and yeah. I'm confused. While I like the idea of a double-angent-like ambiguous Masky, I want to know if there's something I've missed that's disproved me.

And then, a question on more specifically the latest entry, who the heck is Seth and Brian? I remember hearing the name "Brian" in the most early entries, but Seth is beyond my memory and I feel like I'm missing something significant because everybody made such a big deal out of him. What's his involvement in the story? People think he's Totheark? Isn't Masky Totheart? Or is Totheark an organization of Mask beings? Was that clarified? (For the record, I never came to understand the speculation that one of the Maskies in Entry ##### was a female...)

Also, who the farging icehole was the cameraman in this video? People speak of Alex's humor my bobbing the camera to the beat and it COULDN'T have been Tim because I THOUGHT that it was Tim that called Alex (?) the "movie guy," but then everybody's like, "Yay, TIM playing the ukele," and "Tim didn't see Splendy/! WHHAAA...?!" so, yeah. Confusion.

I hope the length of my comment is not bothersome and if the questions happen to be answered earlier in the thread, I apologize, but I could not stay silent for much longer. Shocked

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pravado wrote:
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I think Tim is Alex


let me edit that. if you want to bring us back on topic, do it in a way that provides more insight into things so that we will be inclined to actually go back to being on topic. trying to change the topic by saying "tim is alex" says "this is getting awkward lets get back to posting ridiculously silly things that hold no content or discussion value"

i'm a little dissapointed that people would rather post unintelligible jokes than actually discuss something of importance


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 		Re: Pardon my impending randomnes.
Jamocha101 wrote:
I feel awkwad. Um.

Okay, so basically I've been kind of stalking these forums for the past two days over my progressively swelling obsessoin with Marble Hornes and its speculations, partly because of its addictiveness and partly because of this little morbid crush I have formed on Masky. Yeah. Masky. And as for the aforementioned entity that nobody has seemed to clearly clarify as of yet, I was wondering if this would be the appropriate place and time to state my opinion of him and questions I have about Entry 54 despite the fact that hasn't seem to be the object of discussion for a little while....

Ehem. So, yeah. If I was should have posted in some introductuctory-type forum and didn't or if there was some other way of greeting the world and its inhabitants before I came here that I missed, I apologize. I wasn't originally planning on doing this, but I can no longer resists. I need my curiosities on Masky deviated upon for people to clarify these nagging ignorances I have.

Firstly, I remember somebody in the thread stating that Tim is generally a bad liar (because of his hesitance to tell Jay where exactly he got the camera) but I personally did not pick that up from him...it seems to me like his lack of knowledge that he is Masky is entirely genuine; especailly when we all know that after you "wake up" form being hypnotized courtesy of Slendy's mind tricks, your memory is theoretically whiped out. Plus, the slendysickness and stuff. So yeah. I always thought that Masky was basically Tim being controlled at night and then waking up the next morning or whatever not remembering anything, so in a sense, they kind of ARE like two different people.

Like I said, Tim seemed entirely unaware of his Masky persona in this video, but nonetheless, weren't there more than one Maskies in the same shot in another entry some time back? Or am I remembering something wrong? Just the same, I do believe that there is more than one Masky, but what's specail about Tim-Masky is that he's kinda like "the main cahoona," or the one that we see most often, the one that Slendy affects all of the time. That is, if Slendy affeting him is the only thing that causes his behavoir, because while Masky has been seen as threatning or dangerous, he never really seemed to hurt Jay. In fact, if anything, he's been protecting him (saving his and Jessica's lives, cough, cough), which makes him seem pretty bipolar, and yeah. I'm confused. While I like the idea of a double-angent-like ambiguous Masky, I want to know if there's something I've missed that's disproved me.

And then, a question on more specifically the latest entry, who the heck is Seth and Brian? I remember hearing the name "Brian" in the most early entries, but Seth is beyond my memory and I feel like I'm missing something significant because everybody made such a big deal out of him. What's his involvement in the story? People think he's Totheark? Isn't Masky Totheart? Or is Totheark an organization of Mask beings? Was that clarified? (For the record, I never came to understand the speculation that one of the Maskies in Entry ##### was a female...)

Also, who the farging icehole was the cameraman in this video? People speak of Alex's humor my bobbing the camera to the beat and it COULDN'T have been Tim because I THOUGHT that it was Tim that called Alex (?) the "movie guy," but then everybody's like, "Yay, TIM playing the ukele," and "Tim didn't see Splendy/! WHHAAA...?!" so, yeah. Confusion.

I hope the length of my comment is not bothersome and if the questions happen to be answered earlier in the thread, I apologize, but I could not stay silent for much longer. Shocked



There are multiple maskys, at least two that we know of (Tim, and then the mask from entry 26's beginning). It's possible the other is a girl, they were probably going with it being Sarah (girl from entry 9). We never see more than one masky in a shot at once, so it's possible that totheark is putting masks on to fuck with jay and make him think that there are more people watching him than there actually is. Tim is not confirmed as totheark, nor do we even know for a fact that Tim actively works with totheark.

Seth is the cameraman from MH (you can see him briefly in entry 9 when he comes from behind the camera - he was in entry 54 and asked if the tapes were in alex's car. He was also the one who was walking around the basement with alex in entry 22.

Brian is the guy from entry 7 and 52, he was the main actor of the movie. He was the one that brought in Tim to act in the movie, they lived close to each other and were friends before the movie started production.

It's most likely at this point that hoody is brian, and that totheark is seth. Either that, or hoody is totheark. Jay made a tweet once that he thought totheark was multiple people, and that strikes me as troy giving us a clue that TTA is not only one person.

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We never see more than one masky in a shot at once, so it's possible that totheark is putting masks on to fuck with jay and make him think that there are more people watching him than there actually is. .


They're both in Entry#45 at the same time.

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 		Re: Pardon my impending randomnes.
UseR1011100 wrote:
pravado wrote:
We never see more than one masky in a shot at once, so it's possible that totheark is putting masks on to fuck with jay and make him think that there are more people watching him than there actually is. .


They're both in Entry#45 at the same time.


hoodie isn't a masky, at least not the kind that we refer to on here. maskys are the white masks with black drawings on em

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 		Just trying to shift the topic of conversation, of which I was partially successful. Should we now debate the issue of political instability in Iraq, I'm down if this is a current events thread.

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 		Re: Pardon my impending randomnes.
pravado wrote:
UseR1011100 wrote:
pravado wrote:
We never see more than one masky in a shot at once, so it's possible that totheark is putting masks on to fuck with jay and make him think that there are more people watching him than there actually is. .


They're both in Entry#45 at the same time.


hoodie isn't a masky, at least not the kind that we refer to on here. maskys are the white masks with black drawings on em


I subscribe to the idea that Masky is always Tim.
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There are multiple maskys, at least two that we know of (Tim, and then the mask from entry 26's beginning). It's possible the other is a girl, they were probably going with it being Sarah (girl from entry 9). We never see more than one masky in a shot at once, so it's possible that totheark is putting masks on to fuck with jay and make him think that there are more people watching him than there actually is. Tim is not confirmed as totheark, nor do we even know for a fact that Tim actively works with totheark.


If they weren't in the same shot at once, how do we know that there is more than one of them? Are they servants of Slendy?

pravado wrote:
Seth is the cameraman from MH (you can see him briefly in entry 9 when he comes from behind the camera - he was in entry 54 and asked if the tapes were in alex's car. He was also the one who was walking around the basement with alex in entry 22.

Brian is the guy from entry 7 and 52, he was the main actor of the movie. He was the one that brought in Tim to act in the movie, they lived close to each other and were friends before the movie started production.


Gotchya. Is there any particular reason Seth rose such a fuss, though?

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It's most likely at this point that hoody is brian, and that totheark is seth. Either that, or hoody is totheark. Jay made a tweet once that he thought totheark was multiple people, and that strikes me as troy giving us a clue that TTA is not only one person.


-_-' In any case, why would Brian have returned Jay's camera? And why is it so widely presumed that Seth is Toheark? (Is not a certain thing that Masky and Totheark are not the same guy, and/or that Totheark is not an organization?) Would Seth be under Slendy's control? Does Slendy link up to this AT ALL?

Please pardon my questions. I am known for my slowness.

EDIT: You weren't kidding about the two being seen together in 45, right? Because I THOUGHT there was a shot of them with each other. Sheeesh. Thinking about the Maskies hurts my brain.

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I subscribe to the idea that Masky is always Tim.


It seems to me that Masky is ALMOST always Tim. But if it were, he would be extremely bipolar; like I said earlier, while it seems he doesn't want to initially bring harm to Jay, in fact, even helps him, there is still the attacking instances. And I believe I recall Masky changing clothes, which might indicate the difference in persona. And I'm still leaning toward Masky and Totheark being the same person...

And of course, that Totheark may be made up of several individuals, especailly when there were several plural pronouncs in Entry #####.

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 		masky and tim are one in the same, yeah. the masky we know is never anyone but tim.



we don't know for a fact that there is more than one masky. again, for that reason. however the other masky besides tim that we see is on a tape that alex sent to jay, not in a totheark video. although i think there is another "masky clone" in a totheark video that looks like a girl. although these could be ideas they've decided to scrap along the way.

Seth is 'such a fuss' because he went missing after entry 22 and now that we know alex sacrificed brian, it's probable that he sacrificed seth too. knowing that tim was near slendy when brian was taken, and we know tim is alive, it implies that brian and seth are both still alive since it would be weird for slendy to let tim go and not them.

i personally think seth is tta for a few reasons.

1) it would be ridiculous to bring in a new character during the last season.

2) it has to be someone who had footage from the MH tapes, and seth was the cameraman (solidified in entry 54 when he asks if alex has the tapes), and brian was just an actor so he wouldn't have had tapes.

3) tta knows how to edit the hell out of videos, and only someone who worked with that software would. realistically only the cameraman of a movie would be working with the footage anyway


totheark is not confirmed as masky. it would be entirely too obvious for tta to be only masky, and would severely minimalize the depth of the story. if it was just masky, i don't think troy would have had jay tweet the multiple people thing.

as far as why hoody returned jays camera, we don't know. it's probably because he wants jay to continue investigating.

as far as the operator being connected, it's presumed that the members of totheark are cast members from MH who were taken by the operator and found out what was happening to them (shown by that one video where tta says "so much more than time has been taken)

btw, it's pretty much confirmed that hoody is a member of totheark. in one of the videos he says "do you see me, i saw you" and shows a hand drawn picture of someone sitting by a tree. in entry 42, as alex gets out of his car, you can see hoody sitting beneath the tree.

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UseR1011100 wrote:
pravado wrote:
UseR1011100 wrote:
I think Tim is Alex


let me edit that. if you want to bring us back on topic, do it in a way that provides more insight into things so that we will be inclined to actually go back to being on topic. trying to change the topic by saying "tim is alex" says "this is getting awkward lets get back to posting ridiculously silly things that hold no content or discussion value"

i'm a little dissapointed that people would rather post unintelligible jokes than actually discuss something of importance


Have you ever seen them in the same place at the same time?


Yes, we have. Entry 35.

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 		Again, when I say "maskies" i'm referring to the masks that are similar to the one that Tim wears.

Non-Tim ones are seen in entry ##### and entry 26

I don't consider hoody a masky, he is wearing a cloth on his face not a hard mask. He might be working with them but that's not what i'm talkin about

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pravado wrote:
Again, when I say "maskies" i'm referring to the masks that are similar to the one that Tim wears.

Non-Tim ones are seen in entry ##### and entry 26

I don't consider hoody a masky, he is wearing a cloth on his face not a hard mask. He might be working with them but that's not what i'm talkin about



If you're replying to me, I was replying to the guy saying that Tim is Alex and that you don't see them together in the same location. Now, I could ignore this, but I have this pet peeve about people throwing up uninformed crap like that. Razz

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 		i was referring to the guy who pointed out that hoody and masky are seen together in 45. different post than the guy who said alex and tim were in 35.

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i was referring to the guy who pointed out that hoody and masky are seen together in 45. different post than the guy who said alex and tim were in 35.


Ok. Razz

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