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pravado
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aidansean wrote:
I just watched Entry #54 again and I think I noticed some distortion in the top left corner at 6:06 (see screenshot.) Is this distortion, or something else? Is it significant? Apologies if it's already been posted.


i noticed this the first time i watched it, it has no significance

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ToTheArcanine wrote:
Stanislav wrote:
That's really it, though. He has nothing to lose by continuing his quest, and he has a lot to gain if he "wins" it. Not to mention the fact that he is also probably at least somewhat mentally wrecked at this point, he'd probably "forgotten" what live without his mission is like.


He does have something to lose, though; his life. Even discounting all Slendy and Masky attacks he's still nearly been shot and had his apartment burned down. And he could've easily been a substitute for Bruce, too.
Seeing as though Tim and Alex seemingly could live a normal life by running away, I can understand Jay not wanting to approach things (like the tapes) too quickly.
He has to keep his sanity meter in the green, you know? Wink


Actually the other guy was right on this one. Even if Jay doesn't persue anything, masky and the operator will still find him (entry 19 and return)

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Looking back at #37, notice that TO appeared once Alex blew out the candles. That could mean lights out, but is it possibly that even as a kid Alex was gaining some kind of desire of power right from an young age? That Alex wished for something to make him more "powerful", and that TO was the result of that wish?

And with that, new speculation time!!!!

Alex knew slendy as a kid, and slendy was for a lack of better words, his guardian. Slendy is tall and wears a suit.... Possible father figure? However as he grew up, he was told that it was just his imagination. Years later something triggered his "guardian"/demon to come out again, and however this time it became more real than he knew. Eventually he accepted it and rather than be the good guy he took out his issues on others through TO. Masky could have been the same sort of thing for Tim. It would also mean that a lot of what they turned the series into once it became more than trolling took a lot of influence from Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and his personalities represented in the form Mr Eff, Psychodoughboy, and Nail Bunny. This also makes Tim going to the mental health clinic make sense, he's quite possibly suffering from some extreme form of a Multiple Personalities disorder. As far as who or what Hoodie represents, well that could very possibly be Jay's guardian, just Jay doesn't control him or lose control to him like Tim and Alex do to theirs. The question then becomes do any of the rest of the cast have these guardians that come out as a result of Alex's TO attack on them?

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pravado wrote:
Actually the other guy was right on this one. Even if Jay doesn't persue anything, masky and the operator will still find him (entry 19 and return)


I'm continuing to get the impression that Masky doesn't want to kill Jay, though. But there's no denying you're right about Operator.

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ieisuk wrote:
Looking back at #37, notice that TO appeared once Alex blew out the candles. That could mean lights out, but is it possibly that even as a kid Alex was gaining some kind of desire of power right from an young age? That Alex wished for something to make him more "powerful", and that TO was the result of that wish?

And with that, new speculation time!!!!

Alex knew slendy as a kid, and slendy was for a lack of better words, his guardian. Slendy is tall and wears a suit.... Possible father figure? However as he grew up, he was told that it was just his imagination. Years later something triggered his "guardian"/demon to come out again, and however this time it became more real than he knew. Eventually he accepted it and rather than be the good guy he took out his issues on others through TO. Masky could have been the same sort of thing for Tim. It would also mean that a lot of what they turned the series into once it became more than trolling took a lot of influence from Johnny the Homicidal Maniac and his personalities represented in the form Mr Eff, Psychodoughboy, and Nail Bunny. This also makes Tim going to the mental health clinic make sense, he's quite possibly suffering from some extreme form of a Multiple Personalities disorder. As far as who or what Hoodie represents, well that could very possibly be Jay's guardian, just Jay doesn't control him or lose control to him like Tim and Alex do to theirs. The question then becomes do any of the rest of the cast have these guardians that come out as a result of Alex's TO attack on them?


that would be an awful reveal. alex clearly didn't know about the operator until they began filming marble hornets (seen by entry 2 and 12) - they are trying to keep the story as realistic as possible, to say the operator just plopped onto earth because alex wished for a "friend" on his birthday... comeon. how would you enjoy that resolve?

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I kind of agree with Pravado, here. Although the concept wasn't too bad, it's too light to be considered for the actual canon; esepcailly when the myth of Slenderman existed long before Marbled Hornets, which pretty much gives away that it couldn't be because Alex "wished" for him on his birthday. I have a feeling that Alex didn't know about Slendy until the start of Marble Horbets when he went insane, and the aforementioned tall entity was simply strategically making himself scarce because it's all part of his evil complex plan.

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Jamocha101 wrote:
I kind of agree with Pravado, here. Although the concept wasn't too bad, it's too light to be considered for the actual canon; esepcailly when the myth of Slenderman existed long before Marbled Hornets, which pretty much gives away that it couldn't be because Alex "wished" for him on his birthday. I have a feeling that Alex didn't know about Slendy until the start of Marble Horbets when he went insane, and the aforementioned tall entity was simply strategically making himself scarce because it's all part of his evil complex plan.


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Slenderman is something made up on the internet. Some back story or not, every slendy vlog is slightly different. The only completely out there supernatural being is Slenderman himself. If my suspicions are correct about Hoodie, then he too would be in the WTF stages. But to call this series 100% realistic, I'm calling bullshit on that pravado. We will see, but don't count the possibility out completely. There are others that will come to light this season as they wrap it up.

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ieisuk wrote:
Slenderman is something made up on the internet. Some back story or not, every slendy vlog is slightly different. The only completely out there supernatural being is Slenderman himself. If my suspicions are correct about Hoodie, then he too would be in the WTF stages. But to call this series 100% realistic, I'm calling bullshit on that pravado. We will see, but don't count the possibility out completely. There are others that will come to light this season as they wrap it up.


I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I doubt Slenderman was conceived solely from internetfolk, especailly when there has been supposed sightings from as far away as the Middle East from very early on, earlier than when internet-circulated myths and memes were spread around like a wild fire. I don't personally believe in Slenderman, so no, I don't agree that this series is completely realistic, but there is still some strategic believability that is trademark to it. To say that Slenderman was a birthday wish courtesy of Alex is a little too far-out for me, personally.

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My understanding is the slenderman legend is based off a German tall tale of a large man who roams the woods abducting children-kinda like a boogeyman to keep kids from wandering off. TribleTwelve touched on this in their series.

It got a little warped over the years that Slenderman was around kids who died or disappeared.. So it can always be interpreted that Alex's involvement is all the way back to when he was a young kid..

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I...what? No one believes that the slenderman is real. Not yet at least, I don't think. It's not real. People on the SomethingAwful forums were talking about urban legends and decided to make one up, to see if they could get it to start propagating on its own, to get people to believe it was real. Troy started right in, said it reminded him of his friend who disappeared, leaving him some tapes...BAM, Marble Hornets.

It was a deliberate act of people making it up, and The Operator, here in Marble Hornets Land was Troy and Joseph's way of differentiating from the slenderman, so they didn't have to strictly follow the made up details from the SomethingAwful forums.

Long story short...so, if you believe that the slenderman predates the internet meme, I guess they were right. Fun sociology experiment, everyone! Good job!
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The Operator and the Slenderman are two different things. Outside of initial appearance they share very few similarities.

And yes, I can dismiss this theory. Think about this:

Alex: Ok Jay, we have to work together to stop this thing. I'll tell you everything. On my birthday one year I wished for a friend because I was lonely, only he didn't appear until 15+ years later because I got really angry that Tim didn't remember his lines. He was my father figure growing up.

I agree that Hoody is Jay's guardian (although to put it more simply i just think that hoody is watching over jay to make sure he doesn't land into trouble and continues his quest) and that Tim has a split personality, but that other part of your theory will never happen.


Anyone who thinks Slenderman is real is either underage or has a low IQ, enough said.

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pravado wrote:


Anyone who thinks Slenderman is real is either underage or has a low IQ, enough said.


I can understand thinking it's a real myth though, if you haven't looked around the internet enough to find its point of origin.

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To be fair, the purpose of the thread the Slender Man came from was to create fake paranormal images and stories that could be turned into urban legends. It's just the Slender Man became so popular, that kind of happened on its own.

But now we're getting off-topic and crossing over into OOG territory. That doesn't really belong in video discussion.

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pravado wrote:
The Operator and the Slenderman are two different things. Outside of initial appearance they share very few similarities.


I don't know if it's out of sentiment, but I have to disagree with this; I had always conceived that Operator was something like "a" Slenderman, or at least an apparition that's remotely related, especailly when the two share so many qualities that I think you've disregarded. I even remember, in the earlier entries when Alex and his buddies were sneaking around a basement, one of them said "I think I saw the Slenderman..."

As far as the way Operator compares to Slenderman, they both are often found inthe woods, prey upon young people (furthermore children because of how young Alex was when Slendy first showed up), both cause extreme paranoia and personality changes, hate water, and look pretty much the same. I know some might argue the latter by saying the original Slenderman had "tenticles," but I don't believe that's even true. I think that germinated from the circulation amongst the interwebs, not to mention that the oldest sighting pictures there are of Slenderman show him lacking his octupus-like apendages.

I don't know why they decided to dub Slendy "The Operator," and although I could always be wrong, I don't think the entire intention was to distinct him from the Slednerman myth.

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