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NewInTown2 wrote:
Someone has pointed this out already but I'm going to put a bit more emphasis on it:

In entry 51 Brian asks how Alex found the burned out hospital.. He doesn't ask things like: "was this the old hospital Tim was talking about?" or something like that. Alex responds by saying he found it the day before with Seth (who isn't there because he felt "sick")

So they Brian doesn't remember that Tim said anything about it in entry 55.


THIS. so hard. Great job emphasizing the important part of this, NiT.

Furthermore, let me complicate things by suggesting we have no idea when exactly this occurred in relation to the rest of the MH filming. This could be before entry 54, and I'm guessing (purely speculatively) that it happens after a lot of what we see of the filming back in season 1. So, I'm thinking maybe this happens after entry #12, and definitely before #5 where Alex is visibly much more irritable.

The point being, we can't assume that the Operator's Jam Session in 54 was the first time that Brian and Tim encountered him during the filming.

I will further speculate that if the timeline goes as suggested in this entry (Brian appears at the hospital in entry 51 on "Saturday"), that possibly Alex called Tim up late on "Friday" and decided to get some "location scouting" done early - and left Tim at the hospital to be Slendernapped/-nommed. Maybe Tim got some new pills at his doctor's appointment that made him resistant to Slendernoms, possibly paving the way for Masky to come out? That last bit is pure WMG, but whatever.
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 		Okay, weird thought I had. Maybe Tim's original symptoms had nothing to do with the Operator. That is, when he's talking on the phone about how this has happened to him before, whenever that was it has nothing to do with Tall Dark and Slender. Tim had/has an honest to God mental illness. And it is precisely because of that illness that he became Masky instead of being Slender Snacked. When the paranoia, anger, and distrust hit the others, they wouldn't know what to do with it, never having experienced it before. But Tim, he's been here before and he'd be able to deal with it better. Maybe even get some meds to keep him stable for a while. The Operator would exacerbate Tim's symptoms, but he'd be able to handle it better, longer.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:55 am
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Star Kindler wrote:
Okay, weird thought I had. Maybe Tim's original symptoms had nothing to do with the Operator. That is, when he's talking on the phone about how this has happened to him before, whenever that was it has nothing to do with Tall Dark and Slender. Tim had/has an honest to God mental illness. And it is precisely because of that illness that he became Masky instead of being Slender Snacked. When the paranoia, anger, and distrust hit the others, they wouldn't know what to do with it, never having experienced it before. But Tim, he's been here before and he'd be able to deal with it better. Maybe even get some meds to keep him stable for a while. The Operator would exacerbate Tim's symptoms, but he'd be able to handle it better, longer.


Well the problem with your theory is that Tim pretty much sums up the exact symptoms that define slendersickness... Both Jay and Alex have experienced the same symptoms. So why wouldn't it be slendersickness?

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 		So resisting Operator leads to face covering, stalking, questionable video editing, and overly dramatic and cryptic styles of communication. On the other hand giving in to it leads to rudeness, amicicide, creepy art projects, and being stalked by the previous mentioned cult of the masks.

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NewInTown2 wrote:
Star Kindler wrote:
Okay, weird thought I had. Maybe Tim's original symptoms had nothing to do with the Operator. That is, when he's talking on the phone about how this has happened to him before, whenever that was it has nothing to do with Tall Dark and Slender. Tim had/has an honest to God mental illness. And it is precisely because of that illness that he became Masky instead of being Slender Snacked. When the paranoia, anger, and distrust hit the others, they wouldn't know what to do with it, never having experienced it before. But Tim, he's been here before and he'd be able to deal with it better. Maybe even get some meds to keep him stable for a while. The Operator would exacerbate Tim's symptoms, but he'd be able to handle it better, longer.


Well the problem with your theory is that Tim pretty much sums up the exact symptoms that define slendersickness... Both Jay and Alex have experienced the same symptoms. So why wouldn't it be slendersickness?


Because there's no other illnesses that can cause headaches, paranoia, and sleeplessnes? There's still some ground in reality here, and it's quite possible that Tim could have had a condition, be it permanent and controlled or temporary and cured, that gave him some sort of knowledge or resistance to what was happening.

I suppose you could compare this to an injury. The ultimate cause, result, and damage may be different, but the same pain supression and most treatments will have the same effect.


ReverendJ wrote:
So resisting Operator leads to face covering, stalking, questionable video editing, and overly dramatic and cryptic styles of communication. On the other hand giving in to it leads to rudeness, amicicide, creepy art projects, and being stalked by the previous mentioned cult of the masks.


Sign me up! Either one, i dont care.

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 		Yeah. A few tapes left, as soon as possible Jay.

See ya in 2 weeks.

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 		I sort of feel like Tim's history of mental health is a red herring. I'm not sure why Tim would want to confuse Jay like this either by giving him the tapes. I'll just have to keep watching a few entries.
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 		"Filler"? Is there a facepalm emoticon?

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punxtr wrote:
I sort of feel like Tim's history of mental health is a red herring. I'm not sure why Tim would want to confuse Jay like this either by giving him the tapes. I'll just have to keep watching a few entries.


My guess is Tim wants Jay to understands something/make it so that he wants to help Tim.

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Latent wrote:
NewInTown2 wrote:
Star Kindler wrote:
Okay, weird thought I had. Maybe Tim's original symptoms had nothing to do with the Operator. That is, when he's talking on the phone about how this has happened to him before, whenever that was it has nothing to do with Tall Dark and Slender. Tim had/has an honest to God mental illness. And it is precisely because of that illness that he became Masky instead of being Slender Snacked. When the paranoia, anger, and distrust hit the others, they wouldn't know what to do with it, never having experienced it before. But Tim, he's been here before and he'd be able to deal with it better. Maybe even get some meds to keep him stable for a while. The Operator would exacerbate Tim's symptoms, but he'd be able to handle it better, longer.


Well the problem with your theory is that Tim pretty much sums up the exact symptoms that define slendersickness... Both Jay and Alex have experienced the same symptoms. So why wouldn't it be slendersickness?


Because there's no other illnesses that can cause headaches, paranoia, and sleeplessnes? There's still some ground in reality here, and it's quite possible that Tim could have had a condition, be it permanent and controlled or temporary and cured, that gave him some sort of knowledge or resistance to what was happening.


Yeah you guys are right, it could be a twist.

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 		I don't think an entry that provides useful information could be considered filler. Seems rather intentional, especially with the thought out way they presented information. I think there could've been a bit more information but then again, this is just what the camera happened to catch on this tape. If something scary happened in every entry well, the scary entries would probably be less effective. We got a funny entry, then we got a scary entry, and now we get an information entry (which is funny for OOG trailer reasons) which might be a bit unsettling because now we have less of an idea of what entry 51 means if it's related to this, which I believe it is because of the mention of the hospital. Also totheark nod to program. I can't see this as filler at all.

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 		Holy balls, guise. This makes TiMasky's hatred for Alex so much clearer. Timmy-Tims came up with the perfect filming location, but Alex took credit for it, saying he found it with Seth instead. Since Tim was already crazy by this point, he made it his mission to destroy Alex and his film project. O:

But on a srs note:

I think it's possible that Tim's shitty mental-health is a red herring, but I just don't know how likely that is. I think this is more indicative that something was wrong with Tim first. It would make more sense, considering the last entry they were stalked back to Tim's apartment, and everyone seemed to be doing at least somewhat alright. And it would also make Entry 9 make more sense. Everyone was on edge, but the two that seemed the most pissed off about everything were Alex and Tim. Sarah just seemed frustrated by Alex's attitude and Seth looked like he just wanted to kind of not be the focus of the KralieRages.

Although, if we're thinking that Entry 51 happened just a few days after this entry, then it means that Alex is already head-screwed too, because we see Alex drag Brian's body off into another room while Tim coughs up most of his internal organs in a corner. Which would make this entry even creepier, given how Alex seems to be pretty chill and actually giving some semblance of direction, where in 51 he seems to just be going through the motions until TO shows up for his SlendySnack.
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 		Hey guys, if you pause at 1:23, you can see Garlic Jr.'s head pop out of the bushes, confirming that this is filler. I spoke with Troy, and he said that because the web series has caught up with the Marble Hornets manga, he'll have to make the next few entries a filler saga where Tim, Alex, and Brian fight Garlic Jr. See you in a few months, when the real story continues.
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Masky wrote:
Hey guys, if you pause at 1:23, you can see Garlic Jr.'s head pop out of the bushes, confirming that this is filler. I spoke with Troy, and he said that because the web series has caught up with the Marble Hornets manga, he'll have to make the next few entries a filler saga where Tim, Alex, and Brian fight Garlic Jr. See you in a few months, when the real story continues.


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