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pravado
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man i am facepalming so damn hard right now

yes its the same person, its the same exact mask that appears slightly different bc of the night vision

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:44 pm
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VincentPain
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Xman wrote:
VincentPain wrote:
Look at Brian's build in #51. Then look at Hoodie's build in #45. Brian is not that skinny, nor are his hips as wide/wider than his shoulders. Hoodie is almost certainly female, or at least has a feminine figure, neither of which are things we can use to describe Brian. (Although I would be highly amused if, somehow, Brian tuned out to be female)

Like others have said:
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On the DVD (and maybe somewhere else, I don't know), it is revealed that Troy (Jay) was the actor who played as Hoody in Entry #45.

OOG elements like this need to be taken into account so theories that include judging someone's build aren't taken into effect. Once these facts are known, making theories like in your above quote become null. Sorry, not trying to come off like a dick. I just want people to realize this.


No, no, the criticism of whatever I said is appreciated. I haven't seen the DVDs, as I have yet to buy them, hence why I haven't come across this while going through the series. I got a good laugh when I read that - I almost feel bad for Troy, though. lolz

Xman wrote:
VincentPain wrote:
Entry #13 @ 0:35. That's Alex filming. Think about it.

Did I miss something here? I'm pretty sure it's generally assumed that Alex is filming at that part. Quick recap: Alex has the camera. He's low on battery and tells Jay to get some more. We see Jay leave. The scene changes to filming of some branches and the sky above. The very next scene at 0:35 we see Alex brushing off the ground to reveal the Operator symbol. Did you mean to say something else? I'm confused, because I'm positive everyone assumes and knows it's Alex filming at that part.


Yeah, you missed something. I was just highlighting the idea that Alex probably didn't draw that symbol, which would naturally imply that someone else did. Which would mean that either TO makes those somehow, or someone else has been messed with before him - the popular theory right now would be Tim.

Xman wrote:
VincentPain wrote:
TLDR? Here's a summary:
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Hoodie is probably Jessica.
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Brian is probably dead.

These theories aren't really valid. Again, not trying to come as an asshole, it's just that your only words backing up Jessica being Hoody is that you went back and watched Entry #32 again and now you think it's most likely Jessica. I'm sure you have a reason for why you said that though. Otherwise though, there's no definitive proof that it is her.

Same thing with Brian. All we know is that he was running around with the camera trying to find Alex, saw Tim in the corner with a blanket, turned around and saw the Operator, and then it fuzzed out to Brian being dragged through a doorway. There's no definitive proof that he is dead or was dying at that part. Like mokie said, he could be "slendersleeping," he could have fainted, etc.

All you can say for both of these theories is that they may or may not be true, which you could say about a lot of things in this series. A whole lot.


No, there's no definitive proof of anything at this point. I'm just saying that given the way they've presented Jessica, there's a pretty good chance that she's either Hoodie or otherwise involved with TTA. #32 was just the best example of the things that make it seem that way.

And no, there's no definitive proof that Brian is dead. Everything you said was valid. I was looking at it this way: we've watched Alex murder what'shisface in the tunnel, and everyone seems to agree that he's dead. But we don't really know that. Yes, the image of Alex smashing a rock into the guy's head seems pretty conclusive, and more so than Brian being dragged offscreen, but the two share some similar elements. If we take the film literally, then Brian may have just been incapacitated. Even if he was alive as he was dragged offscreen, though, I think we can agree that he is, at least, going to be severely f*cked up. If we take the entry from a figurative or mythological (or whatever you feel like calling it) perspective, the fact that Brian is getting dragged offscreen, presumably to hide the body, by a person we all "know" as a murderer, and then not seen again... well, I think there's really only one thing I feel that you can reasonably take from that.

But you're absolutely right. We don't know anything for sure, which is precisely why I used the word "probably" instead of something like "obviously". The truth of the matter is that there will always be a way for the creators to twist what we think we already know. Trying to figure out what they're really planning, then, is an invisible balance between trusting what we think we know and questioning it. It's why everybody has a different idea of what's going on, and why we all argue so much. Razz

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Mondai
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NewInTown2 wrote:
I agree on TTA consisting of multiple people but I think it's just a duo: Masky and Hoody.

4 masks? I can only count 3 if you consider Skully to be a mask (come on people: 1 sec of overlay over someone's face in some garbled piece of video doesn't make for a good introduction for another character, especially if you consider that we haven't seen it again since that entry).


Pardon the noobishness of this question, but... Where did that "mask" come into play? I only found the series maybe halfway through season 2, and even then I don't always drop in at UF here for the debates and dissections. I tried looking it up on the wiki once, but... It didn't help... Can you point me in the direction of an entry?

Xman wrote:
Like others have said:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
On the DVD (and maybe somewhere else, I don't know), it is revealed that Troy (Jay) was the actor who played as Hoody in Entry #45.

OOG elements like this need to be taken into account so theories that include judging someone's build aren't taken into effect. Once these facts are known, making theories like in your above quote become null. Sorry, not trying to come off like a dick. I just want people to realize this.


I know this will just sound stubborn and possibly confrontational, but I don't want to consider OOG elements, personally. That's not to say I refuse to admit to them or choose to overlook them, but if I take the time to stop and say "Well, gee, this is a faceless character. Maybe someone else is playing that part, just for today." then I effectively just built in a fourth wall that didn't need to be there. If someone else goes "That's nice logic, but this detail needs to be thrown out of your reasoning for OOG purposes, I'll adjust and rethink, but I hope you can see why I choose not to involve OOG information into my theories: it makes it more real and that makes it more terrifying for me.

(Also, please forgive any random typos. Smart phones like to play practical jokes on my forum essays.)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:42 pm
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Gold Knight
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Mondai wrote:
NewInTown2 wrote:
I agree on TTA consisting of multiple people but I think it's just a duo: Masky and Hoody.

4 masks? I can only count 3 if you consider Skully to be a mask (come on people: 1 sec of overlay over someone's face in some garbled piece of video doesn't make for a good introduction for another character, especially if you consider that we haven't seen it again since that entry).


Pardon the noobishness of this question, but... Where did that "mask" come into play? I only found the series maybe halfway through season 2, and even then I don't always drop in at UF here for the debates and dissections. I tried looking it up on the wiki once, but... It didn't help... Can you point me in the direction of an entry?

At the beginning of the tape in Entry 26, there's a brief clip of some sort of skull thing that a few people thought was another mask. It probably isn't, though.

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pravado
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i always assumed in 13 alex was trying to summon the operator. i'd go into my spiel about how alex ran TOWARDS the operators location but i don't want to get in a quote pyramid like i did that one time

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ToTheArcanine
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With all this discussion of TTA and Brian, I must ask you guys a question; do we understand 'Advocate' yet?
Seems like the S symbol in it and Brian apparently being their advocate would be relevant to this...

Anyone?

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Mondai
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pravado wrote:
i always assumed in 13 alex was trying to summon the operator. i'd go into my spiel about how alex ran TOWARDS the operators location but i don't want to get in a quote pyramid like i did that one time


It's a definite possibility. But I feel like this was earlier in his Slendystalking. I don't personally think he actually summoned him, but that when he saw the Operator symbol(s) he felt compelled to get some kind of answers. Maybe he knew that the symbols were related to Tall Dark and Scary, or maybe he recognized this strange symbol that he's been filling PAGES of paper with for no reason. Or maybe it wasn't until that entry that he started drawing them all the time. It's hard to say with our fuzzy timeline.

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ModEdit (Zarggg): Stop quoting spam.

FINALLY, a theory that makes sense to me.

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ModEdit (Zarggg): Stop. Quoting. Spam.

Goddammit, you made me burst out with laughter.

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Mondai
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MDS1138 wrote:
ModEdit (Zarggg): STOP. QUOTING. SPAM.

FINALLY, a theory that makes sense to me.


I dunno... I find this whole thing to be rather suspect. I mean, who actually says SPECTACLES anymore? And getting a repleca ball-point pen when we assume mobile phone? This is too much to believe. It's just not possible!

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Ithilwen22
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I see Tharol has gone into advertising now. Well done. Smile

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pravado
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Mondai wrote:
pravado wrote:
i always assumed in 13 alex was trying to summon the operator. i'd go into my spiel about how alex ran TOWARDS the operators location but i don't want to get in a quote pyramid like i did that one time


It's a definite possibility. But I feel like this was earlier in his Slendystalking. I don't personally think he actually summoned him, but that when he saw the Operator symbol(s) he felt compelled to get some kind of answers. Maybe he knew that the symbols were related to Tall Dark and Scary, or maybe he recognized this strange symbol that he's been filling PAGES of paper with for no reason. Or maybe it wasn't until that entry that he started drawing them all the time. It's hard to say with our fuzzy timeline.


yeah. i always thought 13 and 4 was alex trying to figure out what the operator was, notice how in 4 he tries to chase him. in 13 he kind of runs towards the building where the symbol was/where the operator was near, instead of in the complete opposite direction (that jay headed to get the batteries)

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