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Listening to Mulligan from the very beginning
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Badger
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 		Listening to Mulligan from the very beginning
In Ep. 8 the ghost of Crothers gives instructions with regards to landmarks and directions. His last instruction is "We should have been listening to Mulligan from the very beginning."

Any insights on what this could mean?

1. Mulligan talks a lot about Crows Nest and then notably doesn't mention it when he runs from the Ghost of Crothers (until he reaches the Crows Next).

Is this a clue about a specific location or just taking a bird's-eye view of the situation?

2. Is there more hidden morse code? Mulligan does morse code at the very beginning.

3. Could there be some code stretched out across all of the episodes?

4. The "code of Codes" is obviously important, too. But does it belong in episode 8?

Any other thoughts?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:23 pm
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TheHunter
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 		This has, and still is, my biggest stopping point. The 'Code of Codes', I think, is what I believe is - as you say in point 3 - the 'stretched out' code.

Does it mean we're looking for a foot-print like marking on G-Maps?

Does it mean we're to trace their footsteps on the map? (Which, as it has been done before, apparently doesn't yield much...).


I for one don't believe there's extended Morse Code - though others will argue that there is. If there -was- it's incredibly difficult to parse the noise from the code - what counts as 'code' and doesnt, that is. Erego, I don't believe it's so - the creators would take marked effort to push those noises to the fore-front and give them clear dot and dash assignments.

Personally (to my belief) we're to trace all of the crew's paths - I just don't think anyone's fully or correctly chartered the subway/bus paths from 'The Larry King' and 'The WPPPT'. This, plus The Black Tom, lead to a lot of unsolved mysterium.

I still believe the treasure is somewhere in Brooklyn, likely around Coney Island or Marine Park - but finding the indicators is the difficult part.

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TrulyUnruly
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 		Code of codes - In ep.8 the parrot says "I were only gonna say, we shoulda been listenin' ta him (Mulligan) from the very beginning."

Going back to ep. 1 - Mulligan draws a closed loop around a foot print. If the foot print symbolizes "travel" then the closed loop could mean returning back to where you started, i.e., Central Park. All the subway/bus/street numbers presented in the other episodes are just static.

Based on that premise, I feel what is important is determining from the other episodes what the crow's nest, the ship, and the flying birdie refer to.

In ep. 8 Mulligan says: "I made it! I made it to the safe haven of the beautiful crows nest!" A crow's nest is located above the fo'c'sle (nautical contraction of fore castle) of a ship. If a castle represents a ship then the castle's tower (crow's nest) is its safe haven. Assuming we are back in Central Park, the only castle there is Belvedere Castle located next to Turtle Pond (another reference).

Also in ep. 8 a picture of the "Mattie Hayes" floats over to the table and 250 feet is spelled out on it. Most pictures of ships are shown in profile, but this picture shows the stern of the vessel, also know as its transom. A transom can also refer to the window above a doorway as in a house. There is a flying dragon or cockatrice or, in pirate-speak, "a birdie" affixed to a transom above the doorway leading into Belvedere castle . The parrot says "look for the flyin' bird, and follow his path." In this case the bird looks to be either heading south past the old trestle, or west towards Shakespeare Gardens.

Is the treasure actually buried there? No. You can't bury anything in Central Park. I think the only practical place to "bury" a 200 lb. wooden treasure chest is in a bank, safe and sound in a vault. So where is it? I feel the location or name of a bank must be somewhere within 250 feet of Belvedere Castle, probably in puzzle form, and in the southwest quadrant.

Just my thoughts for the moment.

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TrulyUnruly wrote:
Code of codes - In ep.8 the parrot says "I were only gonna say, we shoulda been listenin' ta him (Mulligan) from the very beginning."

Going back to ep. 1 - Mulligan draws a closed loop around a foot print. If the foot print symbolizes "travel" then the closed loop could mean returning back to where you started, i.e., Central Park. All the subway/bus/street numbers presented in the other episodes are just static.

Based on that premise, I feel what is important is determining from the other episodes what the crow's nest, the ship, and the flying birdie refer to.

In ep. 8 Mulligan says: "I made it! I made it to the safe haven of the beautiful crows nest!" A crow's nest is located above the fo'c'sle (nautical contraction of fore castle) of a ship. If a castle represents a ship then the castle's tower (crow's nest) is its safe haven. Assuming we are back in Central Park, the only castle there is Belvedere Castle located next to Turtle Pond (another reference).

Also in ep. 8 a picture of the "Mattie Hayes" floats over to the table and 250 feet is spelled out on it. Most pictures of ships are shown in profile, but this picture shows the stern of the vessel, also know as its transom. A transom can also refer to the window above a doorway as in a house. There is a flying dragon or cockatrice or, in pirate-speak, "a birdie" affixed to a transom above the doorway leading into Belvedere castle . The parrot says "look for the flyin' bird, and follow his path." In this case the bird looks to be either heading south past the old trestle, or west towards Shakespeare Gardens.

Is the treasure actually buried there? No. You can't bury anything in Central Park. I think the only practical place to "bury" a 200 lb. wooden treasure chest is in a bank, safe and sound in a vault. So where is it? I feel the location or name of a bank must be somewhere within 250 feet of Belvedere Castle, probably in puzzle form, and in the southwest quadrant.

Just my thoughts for the moment.





Thank you. We'll that would be a confirmation to 2 people on here. And we should have been listenin to Spainard from the begining. I thought I was going nuts because everything was constantly leading me back to the park.
I kept checking out other areas around the 5 and nothing was working.

I guess that explains all the Boy Scout references that I came across, which would include the foot print travel badge. (Girl Scouts have it too). I was thinking that one of the other many birdies were the flying birdies and there are at least 5. I wasn't considering a dragon as a birdie. Too me it was just to big to be a birdie. My crow's nest was something else in the park but, I was just starting to look at it different the past few weeks since that wasn't working out. I thought the dragon was a reference to something else which is mentioned in the videos. I did not know this nautical term, transom. We'll I know what to look for in each of the videos but, I am having a really hard time with a few of the episodes.
I'll have to study my pictures of Belevdere that I took last year.

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 		not sure I follow...
I'm not sure I follow... the references seem far too abstract. Wouldn't putting so much emphasis on episode 8 deflate the value of allllll of the previous episodes? I keep thinking back to the creators' statement that it is HIGHLY unlikely that anyone will find the treasure without watching the entirety of all 8 episodes.

I do agree that the "birdie", the "ship" and the "crow's nest" are all references to something however, and we should be trying to figure out what they symbolize... Captain, can you elaborate on what you mean by "there are 5 birdies?" Maybe I can help with a push in the right direction...

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 		Re: not sure I follow...
joemanfro wrote:
I'm not sure I follow... the references seem far too abstract. Wouldn't putting so much emphasis on episode 8 deflate the value of allllll of the previous episodes? I keep thinking back to the creators' statement that it is HIGHLY unlikely that anyone will find the treasure without watching the entirety of all 8 episodes.

I do agree that the "birdie", the "ship" and the "crow's nest" are all references to something however, and we should be trying to figure out what they symbolize... Captain, can you elaborate on what you mean by "there are 5 birdies?" Maybe I can help with a push in the right direction...


I have found several different flying birdies within Central Park. Can't remember if the exact number is 5 or not, but there is more then 4. It requires a lot of research to find them and one in particular is very, very hard to find. I will tell you this no matter which direction I take in or out of CP, every one (statue, memorial, etc.) in that park is connected some how. There is a huge 6 degrees of separation type thing, quite a few of them.

As for someone pointing out about Morse lung aliment, a large percentage of the people in CP had some sort of lung aliment.

And yes, there is a reason why you need all 8 videos, I'm just having a hay of a time with it, but I know what to look for. I have to have a kid watch it because they pick things up easier then we grown ups do.

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 		Does anyone find it strange that in ep3, when Larry King said "Mr. Mulligan. Now you blatantly said Central Park. Is that where this alleged treasure is buried?" All the pirates just laughed, but no one denied the allegation. It seems to me the only logical answer a pirate would give to such a question is a definite "No", whether it was actually buried there or not. Does the laughter imply it's there?

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TrulyUnruly wrote:
Does anyone find it strange that in ep3, when Larry King said "Mr. Mulligan. Now you blatantly said Central Park. Is that where this alleged treasure is buried?" All the pirates just laughed, but no one denied the allegation. It seems to me the only logical answer a pirate would give to such a question is a definite "No", whether it was actually buried there or not. Does the laughter imply it's there?


Besides me, you and Spainard, probably.

I did e-mail the puppet masters last week as to who, where and what I think we are looking for. However I am still having a problem working on a few episodes to be 100% sure. Of course I haven't heard from them because they want to be fair to everyone involved. It's hard and I don't have a large amount of time to dedicate to this.

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 		They said repeatedly that the gold is not buried in Central Park and not to dig there. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/the-pirates-are-puppets-but-the-treasure-they-say-is-real/?partner=rss&emc=rss

ETA: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyctreasurehunting-99747859.html

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Tresbien wrote:
They said repeatedly that the gold is not buried in Central Park and not to dig there. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/the-pirates-are-puppets-but-the-treasure-they-say-is-real/?partner=rss&emc=rss


You have to follow the given instructions in episode 1. It's hard to do because of our human nature.
I am not saying that chest it's self is in Central Park but, look closely at the words and their meaning.

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 		So there central parks think.

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