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Is Jay really such a derp?
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The Kempest
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RiftTraveler wrote:
It just doesn't seem like the smart thing to do. When Jay wakes up from being Operated On, he uploads videos to the account "In case anything happens," but during the ENTIRE seven months he doesn't do that at all?


I figured he didn't want to upload for fear of calling TTA down on his head again. I mean, the only reason he started uploading again is because TTA sent him the footage of Alex's girlfriend being attacked.

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The Kempest wrote:
RiftTraveler wrote:
It just doesn't seem like the smart thing to do. When Jay wakes up from being Operated On, he uploads videos to the account "In case anything happens," but during the ENTIRE seven months he doesn't do that at all?


I figured he didn't want to upload for fear of calling TTA down on his head again. I mean, the only reason he started uploading again is because TTA sent him the footage of Alex's girlfriend being attacked.

(Edited to add quote.)

TTA? Didn't Alex say he had sent that tape on entry #36?
And I had thought Jay didn't upload anything because Alex had told him on that same entry to "lay low", and Jay probably trusted Alex enough to do as he told him. As for later months, my guess is that past!Jay was so confused about Alex's behavior he didn't know what to make of it, and wanted to find out what was going on with him before he uploaded anything.

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 		Oh, shit, I totally forgot about it. Well, that answers the question nicely.

Laying low means not broadcasting your location to the internet.
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 		I think durring that extended time period, uploading videos in case of death wasn't his biggest priority.
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sweetgums wrote:
And I had thought Jay didn't upload anything because Alex had told him on that same entry to "lay low", and Jay probably trusted Alex enough to do as he told him.


Ah. Yeah.

Forgot all about that.

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 		Yeah he stopped to do an upload BECAUSE last time he didn't he lost 7 months. Jay is learning but it's hard to learn how to survive when the thing you are learning to survive mind rapes you when he gets bored.

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 		His survival instincts are not good. Consider what his idea of "laying low" was at the beginning of Season 2: Stay in the hotel where you woke up after having lost your memories of the past 7 months. The creepy hotel with no guests other than the girl in the adjoining room, and when you have no idea how you even got there in the first place.

Yeah, seems like a safe place.

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Lytrigian wrote:
His survival instincts are not good. Consider what his idea of "laying low" was at the beginning of Season 2: Stay in the hotel where you woke up after having lost your memories of the past 7 months. The creepy hotel with no guests other than the girl in the adjoining room, and when you have no idea how you even got there in the first place.
Yeah, seems like a safe place.


After losing several months of time, though, I think he was squatting for a little bit because he wanted to find keys to help him maintain whatever sanity he had left. If it had happened to me, I might have stayed around just to think, too.

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 		Lytrigian wrote:

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His survival instincts are not good. Consider what his idea of "laying low" was at the beginning of Season 2: Stay in the hotel where you woke up after having lost your memories of the past 7 months. The creepy hotel with no guests other than the girl in the adjoining room, and when you have no idea how you even got there in the first place.
Yeah, seems like a safe place.


To be fair though, as I said earlier, he woke up up and found seven whole months of his life missing - it'd take anyone to get their bearings and he was in no fit state to go anywhere mentally for awhile. Also, he had more to gain by staying, finding clues to his what he'd been doing in those lost seven months and possibly finding something that would trigger his memories back.

Also, to us, the audience who know it's a horror series, the hotel is creepy - but to Jay, it's just a run of the mill budget hotel. I don't think he would have felt there was anything particularly sinister about it, even if there was only him and Jess staying there. Correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm an Aussie...but I can't imagine a lot of people on vacation in November (unless that part of the country is popular?)


As for...Jay's an everyman. He's never been in a situation like this before or even had a chance to develop his surrival skills. So, I chalk up most of his bad moves to inexperience. I know I'd do worse Smile He's also alone in an incredibly frightening situation with no-one to calm him down, so of course he's going to do some stupid. If Jay and Tim work together, I think we'll see Jay acting a lot more level headed.

EDIT: Sorry Jamocha101, I thought I'd hit preview....Sad

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Jordan wrote:

EDIT: Sorry Jamocha101, I thought I'd hit preview....Sad


S'adight, s'adight. You explained my point better than I did. Very Happy

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 		Thanks, Jamocha101 Smile

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 		I don't know. I personally like to call Marble Hornets "Jay Makes Terrible Life Decisions: The Series."

While I'd say the things he does and how he reacts to certain situations are pretty realistic for an everyday guy who's in way over his head, there are still things he does that make me want to shake him and tell him no.

- There's the business of him forgetting his flashlight and hiding in Alex's closet.
- There are those times he couldn't keep his lies straight (Filming a documentary on hotels? That's honestly the best you could come up with?).
- Remember how he waited outside the clinic for Tim every day for about a week? Granted, he didn't have much of a choice in the matter, but how incredibly awkward can you get? I mean, "I wasn't, like, sitting outside waiting on you or anything"? Really, dude?

A lot of what Jay does can be attributed to the fact that he's backed into a corner. It's not like he's beset by a horde of options on how to get to the bottom of things. But dear lord, some of the things he does give me second-hand embarrassment like you would not believe.

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TheKraken wrote:
I don't know. I personally like to call Marble Hornets "Jay Makes Terrible Life Decisions: The Series."

While I'd say the things he does and how he reacts to certain situations are pretty realistic for an everyday guy who's in way over his head, there are still things he does that make me want to shake him and tell him no.

- There's the business of him forgetting his flashlight and hiding in Alex's closet.
- There are those times he couldn't keep his lies straight (Filming a documentary on hotels? That's honestly the best you could come up with?).
- Remember how he waited outside the clinic for Tim every day for about a week? Granted, he didn't have much of a choice in the matter, but how incredibly awkward can you get? I mean, "I wasn't, like, sitting outside waiting on you or anything"? Really, dude?

A lot of what Jay does can be attributed to the fact that he's backed into a corner. It's not like he's beset by a horde of options on how to get to the bottom of things. But dear lord, some of the things he does give me second-hand embarrassment like you would not believe.


A lot of that can be attributed to being ill prepared. Forgetting something in a place where you're not supposed to be? I did it all the time with my big sisters and their rooms. It didn't make me stupid (I don't think...) it just meant I panicked and ran without thinking.

Jay is very normal and as a result is very derpy. It's easy for us to sit back in the comfort of our chairs and say we would do everything smarter, better, faster, stronger, but I don't think we actually would. His survival instincts are pretty good, all things considered: when he sees the Operator, he bails as fast as he can. He doesn't charge it, swear at it, or try to get closer to examine it, he just LOLNOPES the fuck out. That's a lot smarter than a lot of Slender protagonists, not to mention any of us if we saw the Slender Man.

There's plenty to criticize about Jay. (Seriously, not demanding meeting times from Alex? Once, I can understand, kinda, but a second time? Sweetie, no. Learn from your errors.) But these situations are not going to play out like a Hollywood movie, where everything is smooth and falls into place for the hero. MH imitates real life as well as it can, which means there are mistakes, mix ups, stupid decisions made by smart people and not everything has an intelligible explanation.

And hey, don't forget the Antiques Roadshow From Hell tweets. Jay was able to break into a building, take photos, hide from the delivery guy (who would not have been pleased to see him), and get out without being caught. He's not completely helpless. I challenge anyone here to do better. Wink
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 		Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not calling Jay stupid or otherwise insulting him. He's probably one of the most level-headed and rational horror protagonists out there, and I think he's doing pretty well (ie, not dead) despite having no resources, no friends, and no help, all things considered.

This doesn't mean he's not a massive derp sometimes.

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TheKraken wrote:
"Jay Makes Terrible Life Decisions: The Series."


I lol'd

Also,

Lytrigian wrote:
His survival instincts are not good. Consider what his idea of "laying low" was at the beginning of Season 2: Stay in the hotel where you woke up after having lost your memories of the past 7 months. The creepy hotel with no guests other than the girl in the adjoining room, and when you have no idea how you even got there in the first place.
Yeah, seems like a safe place.


J did say he wanted to stay until he could figure out the code to the safe so he could find what he pretty accurately assumed to be important, and he's not really a seasoned criminal/bad person, so it might not have occurred to him to grab the safe and run with it. Was it the most brilliant idea in the world? No, but it was at least understandable.

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