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[VIDEO] Entry #56
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chaos_angel
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Jamocha101 wrote:
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chaos_angel"My favorite theory at this point is that Brian (& Alex?) got teleported into the main building during the Slenderattack. I haven't rewatched 51 to compare where he's running around with the annex & the main building, though, so I could be wrong.


I'm confused, here. Do you mean that Brian and Alex got teleported durringthe Slenderattack in Entry #51? Because in that case, there are two; the first one, where Alex is getting shots of Brian and Slendy appears down the hallway, couldn't have been when they teleported because when Brian picks up the camera and starts looking for Alex, he's in the exact same spot as when the camera stalled. As for the second Slendyattack in that entry, we clearly saw Brian get dragged out and then Alex came in and took the camera, which indicates to me that, once again, they did not get teleported anywhere. Go back and watch Entry #51 again, and you'll see what I mean. :3


I meant the first attack. Okay, upon rewatch you are correct, Brian picks up the camera and it's clear that they're still in that outside area. It's been a while since 51 and I couldn't remember exactly where they were. I *did* notice this time though that there's an interesting jump around 6:08... we go from a brightly-lit, sunshiny, brick hallway to a much dimmer place with white walls and what looks to be more debris scattered around the ground, without passing through a door or anything. I can't tell if it's a lighting shift on the camera or really something though, it's hard to determine if it's the same hallway thanks to Brian's shakycam technique. I hadn't noticed that the first time around. Check it out and tell me what you think. Smile
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This marks what is probably the thirtieth time I've watched Entry #51. It's okay, though. It's an awesome entry, so. X'D

You're definitely right, there is a very conspicuous setting-shift while Brian is running around looking for Alex. Even so, however, I still am not completely convinced that telaportation took place, mainly because if it did, Brian didn't give any reaction to it whatsoever. :'3 Also, I think it's just a possibility that the alternation between bright/sunny to gloomy/dark was either editing on Jay's part or Brian's part; the former being that nothing signficant was on the tape for a few minutes so Jay edited ahead to where Brian started hearing Tim's coughing and found him in the room. The latter being that Brian probably turned off the camera and turned it back on later, heaven knows why. The first scenario to me is more likely. As for telling the buildings apart if telaportation was the case, I did actually buy for a second that Brian might have telaported to Entry #56 building.


However, I kept watching and noticed that that's probably not true. While the beaten-up intereriors of the two buildings are similar, I noticed that when Brian went into the room that Tim was dying in, the peeling paint on the walls very closely matched that of other walls in the building. The light at the end of the hallway just before Brian went into that room indicated that he was still on the ground floor anyway, and we know that Entry #51 building was just one story, so...that's more ambiguous, but hey. All together though, on a more opinonated standpoint, I never really believed that telaportation was a prime thing that took place in this series. While I believe that Slendy is capapble of it, it's one of those really far-out concepts that I think is a little too out-ofthis-worl to be used in a first-person series like this that is endeavoring to be portrayed realistically. That being said, I always subscribed to the theory that the explanation for Jay's room-skipping and such in the earlier entries was just Masky screwing with the camera to throw him off.

But who really knows? I'm sure our answers will come soon enough. Smile

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man talk about unfiction syndrome. i bet tims grafitti red herring was planned, and i bet they're reading this thread laughing their asses off

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Jamocha101 wrote:
This marks what is probably the thirtieth time I've watched Entry #51. It's okay, though. It's an awesome entry, so. X'D

You're definitely right, there is a very conspicuous setting-shift while Brian is running around looking for Alex. Even so, however, I still am not completely convinced that telaportation took place, mainly because if it did, Brian didn't give any reaction to it whatsoever. :'3 Also, I think it's just a possibility that the alternation between bright/sunny to gloomy/dark was either editing on Jay's part or Brian's part; the former being that nothing signficant was on the tape for a few minutes so Jay edited ahead to where Brian started hearing Tim's coughing and found him in the room. The latter being that Brian probably turned off the camera and turned it back on later, heaven knows why. The first scenario to me is more likely. As for telling the buildings apart if telaportation was the case, I did actually buy for a second that Brian might have telaported to Entry #56 building.


However, I kept watching and noticed that that's probably not true. While the beaten-up intereriors of the two buildings are similar, I noticed that when Brian went into the room that Tim was dying in, the peeling paint on the walls very closely matched that of other walls in the building. The light at the end of the hallway just before Brian went into that room indicated that he was still on the ground floor anyway, and we know that Entry #51 building was just one story, so...that's more ambiguous, but hey. All together though, on a more opinonated standpoint, I never really believed that telaportation was a prime thing that took place in this series. While I believe that Slendy is capapble of it, it's one of those really far-out concepts that I think is a little too out-ofthis-worl to be used in a first-person series like this that is endeavoring to be portrayed realistically. That being said, I always subscribed to the theory that the explanation for Jay's room-skipping and such in the earlier entries was just Masky screwing with the camera to throw him off.

But who really knows? I'm sure our answers will come soon enough. Smile


It is super inconclusive. I still can't decide whether it's more likely that Brian teleported, Jay edited the tape (though he usually gives us a second or so of black in between scenes if he does that), or Tim woke up disoriented and wandered into the vicinity before collapsing again. Hopefully Troseph (or whatever portmanteau name we're using lately) will resolve it!
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pravado wrote:
man talk about unfiction syndrome. i bet tims grafitti red herring was planned, and i bet they're reading this thread laughing their asses off

XD yup!
Oh well, its fun to speculate about something between entries :3
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OOG

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Hate to be a buzz kill, but none of the grafitti whatsoever is canon, contrary to popular belief. (With an exception of the Operator symbol.) Troy knew that people blowing it all out of proportion would come up, so he and one of his friends actually came to the building with spray paint one day to try and cover up all of the shizz all over the walls. They didn't get to all of it, obviously, but they tried their best. ;3 So it was pretty cool detective work to try and edit the "word wall," but it was probably unnecessary. c:


chaos_angel wrote:

It is super inconclusive. I still can't decide whether it's more likely that Brian teleported, Jay edited the tape (though he usually gives us a second or so of black in between scenes if he does that), or Tim woke up disoriented and wandered into the vicinity before collapsing again. Hopefully Troseph (or whatever portmanteau name we're using lately) will resolve it!


You're right, we really can't be sure. I actually feel like it still might be kind of early to be speculating about this, but whatever. You are also right in that Jay provides a few seconds of black before editing tapes, so that leads me to believe that Brian had turned off the camera and then turned it back on again. I guess there's a number of ambiguous reasons as to why he might have done that.

I'm confident that the next entry will give us the resolution (or at least an idea of it) that we're looking for.

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I know the word wall is not important to the story. I just want to know what it says because I'm a nerd like that. Razz

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Jamocha101 wrote:
OOG

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Hate to be a buzz kill, but none of the grafitti whatsoever is canon, contrary to popular belief. (With an exception of the Operator symbol.) Troy knew that people blowing it all out of proportion would come up, so he and one of his friends actually came to the building with spray paint one day to try and cover up all of the shizz all over the walls. They didn't get to all of it, obviously, but they tried their best. ;3 So it was pretty cool detective work to try and edit the "word wall," but it was probably unnecessary. c:



Source?

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pravado wrote:
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I do not get so many turns around how Tim recovers the camera ... stands dazed, looks around and sees a camera on the ground, he has to pass in front of it to reach the stairs, why not take it? Exit the building and is lying in the middle of nowhere, a long walk on the railway of the nearest place where you can leave a car .... tired, maybe at night ... best to seek other shelter ... with his blanket and all ...

Well, on the other hand, I have not seen any comments from the pictures of the column that I noted in my previous post, of any kind. Regardless of pareidolia on one side, on the other is read perfectly "watching", something odd when you consider that at the last video of TTA, "decay" complacent face silhouette is accompanied by the text "always watching ". If the text in the pillar was no longer there? if they have been introduced to the shooting?


it's implied that he was teleported to entry 51's annex area, otherwise tim would have had to get slendernapped again after this incident


i personally don't believe this building is the same one from 51, but that's just me.


I do not see why it is implied that he has been teleported. If who coughs at the end of the video is Tim, then continue in the building. If he has been teleported to another place and then returned, why leave him in the Annex, not in the same building? covered with a blanket? Or was teleported directly to the Annex? A few meters from where he is at that time? He could have calmly pulled up there ...
But well, okay, Tim has been teleported, could not have returned to the place of their piss, then continue as I have described?

With regard to buildings, OOG, is actually two buildings about 50 meters apart, and the reason that in # 51 some shots are brighter than others is that the building consists of seven blocks connected by corridors. These ones are more luminous and nearby areas of the blocks will be too.

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I haven't read through the whole thread yet so someone may have addressed this but a lot of people keep saying that Alex knocked out Tim (which would make a lot of sense) but at the very very end of the entry there is very distinct distorted coughing. I would assume that that's Tim cuz Tim is always coughing so that means he was conscious at the very end.

Also theory for the next entry: Since it will probably be the footage from Tim's final tape, the next entry could be Tim picking his camera back up and trying to escape the building while being tormented and chased by the Operator? And then he ends up in the annexed building so scarred by repeated Slendy encounters that he is immobilized in the corner? And then after he gets out somehow he becomes Masky?

TL;DR - Tim is awake and coughing at the end. Next entry is Tim in the building with Slendy

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Tim wakes up and recovers the camera only to be Operatered again. All we know about what happens to him between this tape and Brian's is that he was left awake but mostly incapacitated (he made no effort to go to Brian or stand up when he came into the room). We saw time loss during previous TP issues so if he was TPed to annex it may have been less then a minute after this entry ended from his perspective.

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Mariolee wrote:

Source?

You can look up the October Q&A panel on YouTube, and they start talking about it. Not sure which part of the Q&A, though. X3

ReverendJ wrote:
Tim wakes up and recovers the camera only to be Operatered again. All we know about what happens to him between this tape and Brian's is that he was left awake but mostly incapacitated (he made no effort to go to Brian or stand up when he came into the room). We saw time loss during previous TP issues so if he was TPed to annex it may have been less then a minute after this entry ended from his perspective.


Maybe the next tape will show him at least trying to run away from Slendy, though I doubt he'll be able to do that that efficiently, considering being recently blitzed. The more I think about it, the more I'm envisioning him running into the annex with the intention of taking shelter, but the Operator's presence weakens him more to the point where he just collapses in one of the rooms. Maybe Slendy didn't really want to kill/eat/whatever him at that point, so he decided to be extra creepy by draping an old blanket on him?

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Okay, here's my two cents:

One, this was definitely pre-meditated. Alex adopts a tone in the voice that while talking to Tim that's definitely, "I have to do this or else." Plus his reactions to Tim seem extremely out of touch to me, as if he's thinking about something else or is just waiting for the right moment to strike.

Two, that Operator sign was definitely done by Alex. Alex is almost always in front of Tim during the video, so it's entirely possible that Alex told Tim to go into another room, found a spray can or something on the floor and did it while Tim was away. He was then standing in front of it to make sure it was all right (for whatever reason) and then moved on.

Three, most importantly, this is the start of Masky, no doubt. Tim gave Jay the tapes to show how he came to be. 54 was Tim's first encounter with TO, 55 was Tim coming under the effects and this is Tim finally becoming Masky. The Operator was there to put Tim under. Alex didn't need to seriously hurt Tim, he probably only disoriented him. TO then came along and did the dirty work.

My speculation is that the next entry will probably have Tim find the camera, go into the room he was in in 51, the Operator will find him and dispose of him and then Brian and whomever else will come in. I think it only makes sense.

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To go more off what I posted earlier, I'm really hoping for just a pants-shitting scary entry. Like a throwback to season 1 entries with Slenderman creeping outside windows and stalking Alex's every move. Except this time he'll be stalking Tim in the hospital. While I'm gonna give it like a 10% chance of happening, I'm still gonna keep my hopes up Very Happy

It would be nice to break up the monotony of the operator just showing up exactly when we expect him to and then disappearing immediately.

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