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TheKraken
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 		I haven't filmed with a camera since seventh grade, so I might be completely off, but: is it possible that Tim had the camera screen flipped around so he could see behind himself?

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elkapo
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 		And see the lights behind him without turning around? Still does not fit his reaction.


Other thing:

If I say that we have seen the building known as "annex" in at least one entry for over a year, have any relevance?

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Necronoxide
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TheKraken wrote:
I haven't filmed with a camera since seventh grade, so I might be completely off, but: is it possible that Tim had the camera screen flipped around so he could see behind himself?


Nah, judging by the fact that you can see him enter the building through the camera's POV, the screen would be showing the building.

Unless you're referring to when he's sitting down (either time) then it's entirely possible.

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TheKraken
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 		Yeah, I meant when he was sitting down in the woods. Should have been more specific there, whoops.

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slendydreaming
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 		Hi, I've been lurking ever since season two and finally decided to sign up and join in the discussion. I've watched all of the MH videos and I have a possible idea of what happened. I believe that Alex took Tim out to the abandoned building first, then later that night came back out with Seth. After re-watching entry 22, I think Alex may have told Seth that he lost Tim or thinks Tim might be in trouble, and lured him out there. The reason why is because he mentions nothing about the movie and tells Seth to keep it rolling at the beginning of the entry. It honestly looks like they're looking for someone.

The other thing about entry 22 I found interesting is that when Seth is attacked or grabbed, Alex is a ways away from him, which makes me wonder if as someone else said on here, if Tim grabbed him and hustled him away before Alex could do anything. Tim was left at the end of 57 with his hands clamped over his mouth, trying to stifle his cough, and Slendy standing nearby. What if because Tim was half covering his face, Slendy didn't see him? There's an episode of Supernatural where Sam and Dean have blood on their faces and as a result the demon doesn't see them, this could be the same type of event. Anyway, so Tim realizes after a while that he hasn't been slendyfied, hears Alex and Seth so follows them, and maybe sees Slendy or Alex getting ready to strike so he gets Seth out of there. Now I do realize that Alex is wearing different clothes, including a hat, in 22 so maybe it isn't the same night unless somehow the hat got knocked off. What do you guys think?

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slendydreaming wrote:
Hi, I've been lurking ever since season two and finally decided to sign up and join in the discussion. I've watched all of the MH videos and I have a possible idea of what happened. I believe that Alex took Tim out to the abandoned building first, then later that night came back out with Seth. After re-watching entry 22, I think Alex may have told Seth that he lost Tim or thinks Tim might be in trouble, and lured him out there. The reason why is because he mentions nothing about the movie and tells Seth to keep it rolling at the beginning of the entry. It honestly looks like they're looking for someone.


That sounds plausible to me, though I haven't watched Entry 22 for quite some time. I seem to remember thinking it had more to it than being about Marble Hornets, though.

slendydreaming wrote:
The other thing about entry 22 I found interesting is that when Seth is attacked or grabbed, Alex is a ways away from him, which makes me wonder if as someone else said on here, if Tim grabbed him and hustled him away before Alex could do anything. Tim was left at the end of 57 with his hands clamped over his mouth, trying to stifle his cough, and Slendy standing nearby. What if because Tim was half covering his face, Slendy didn't see him? There's an episode of Supernatural where Sam and Dean have blood on their faces and as a result the demon doesn't see them, this could be the same type of event. Anyway, so Tim realizes after a while that he hasn't been slendyfied, hears Alex and Seth so follows them, and maybe sees Slendy or Alex getting ready to strike so he gets Seth out of there. Now I do realize that Alex is wearing different clothes, including a hat, in 22 so maybe it isn't the same night unless somehow the hat got knocked off. What do you guys think?


I think you're forgetting about Entry 51, though. Brian had found Tim in the annex, incapacitated in a corner. If your theory is correct, where was Seth? Did he just leave Tim there? And if Tim was capable of helping Seth escape, how come he didn't go with him?

Don't mean hard feelings or anything. It's cool that you're speculating, at least.

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slendydreaming
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 		Jamocha, I did forget about 51, other than to wonder where that fell in the timeline! You have a point though, if Tim had gotten Seth out of there then why would he remain behind? The only possible explanation I can think of is that maybe Seth told him (or he remembered) that Alex was bringing Brian out the next day, so he lay in wait hoping to get Brian out but then started coughing? Otherwise maybe Alex simply rounded back around and snuck up behind Seth, knocking him out and then pretending he couldn't find him.

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Meudwy wrote:
Alex brings Seth to the building (possibly under the pretext of finding Tim) but doesn't go upstairs (because he doesn't want Seth to actually find Tim) and instead he leads him to the basement. The first part of Entry 22 occurs. Alex abandons Seth and TO and goes looking for Tim and his camera. He needs to make sure he's disposed of and that he has the footage from Tim's camera so he can edit it to make himself look like he wasn't sketchy or destroy it if that's not possible.

I'm definitely starting to believe that Alex may have altered some of the tapes so that he would be seen as innocent. The question is, though, innocent in the eyes of who? Jay? The cops?

And as for the editing goes... I wonder if some of the distortion we've seen throughout the series is not real. I mean, what if some of the distortion from the early entries wasn't caused by TO, but was actually added in by Alex, so that it would cover up an incriminating clip or dialogue of sorts? And with all the distortion that TO caused, Jay would think that those altered bits were real as well... I mean, just how sure can we be of what really happened during season 1?

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slendydreaming wrote:
Jamocha, I did forget about 51, other than to wonder where that fell in the timeline! You have a point though, if Tim had gotten Seth out of there then why would he remain behind? The only possible explanation I can think of is that maybe Seth told him (or he remembered) that Alex was bringing Brian out the next day, so he lay in wait hoping to get Brian out but then started coughing? Otherwise maybe Alex simply rounded back around and snuck up behind Seth, knocking him out and then pretending he couldn't find him.


If you want my two cents, I think Seth was disposed of after Brian; Alex's rambling in Entry 22 was what indicated that to me, but there could be extenuating circumstances that led to him saying that. If Seth coming last is the case, then, needless to say, the chronology would be screwed up too much for Tim to have tried to "save" anybody. Also, at this point, Tim really doesn't have any preceding reasons to suspect this kind of stuff from Alex, meaning he probably wasn't planning on saving anyone and was furthermore confused from, not only the circumstances, but being recently thwacked unconsiouss.

Honestly, I think you're reading a little too deep into this, but it's okay. It basically summarizes all Unfiction speculation. :]

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 		Just got around to commenting on this entry.

IMO, this entry was really great and far from filler. It's the first time Marble Hornets has actually made me feel on edge in a while, although Entry #23 is still my favorite in terms of creepiness factor. It almost felt like I was watching Season 1 again!

And yeah, Tim's acting is amazing. 'Nuff said on that.

Random thought: What's up with the glowing pair of lights (eyes?) at 1:30? They sort of remind me of the "headlights" from TTA's "Memories" video. When Tim sees them, he starts running towards them, but by the time he reaches where they were, they're gone. Why did he run toward the lights/eyes, though? Did they somehow attract Tim? Bleh, maybe I'm just seeing things.
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SecretPerson wrote:

Random thought: What's up with the glowing pair of lights (eyes?) at 1:30? They sort of remind me of the "headlights" from TTA's "Memories" video. When Tim sees them, he starts running towards them, but by the time he reaches where they were, they're gone. Why did he run toward the lights/eyes, though? Did they somehow attract Tim? Bleh, maybe I'm just seeing things.


I noticed that, too (and posted a screenshot, but it's tough to get a clear screenshot of those). I really want to know what those were.
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rand__althor wrote:
SecretPerson wrote:

Random thought: What's up with the glowing pair of lights (eyes?) at 1:30? They sort of remind me of the "headlights" from TTA's "Memories" video. When Tim sees them, he starts running towards them, but by the time he reaches where they were, they're gone. Why did he run toward the lights/eyes, though? Did they somehow attract Tim? Bleh, maybe I'm just seeing things.


I noticed that, too (and posted a screenshot, but it's tough to get a clear screenshot of those). I really want to know what those were.


My guess is headlights from a distance. They don't seem to belong to anything relevant to MH (TTA and/or Masky, or Slendy) and as we see from the outside shots, there is a road nearby. Although he seems pretty deep into the building, it is kind of bombed out and it wouldn't be that hard to see outside if the angle was right.

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 		Another thing I thought I noticed (could be wrong) is that when Tim's sitting outside, there's like a flowy movement in the left hand corner that almost looks like water but I think it's a road cause I saw headlights go by. It looked like it wasn't close enough for Tim to try to flag anyone down for a ride, maybe a highway.

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 		Something I just discovered watching 22


Alex tells seth something like "it went back upstairs" at one point early on the video


What the hell, how did I never notice that

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Belellen
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 		So...

Whatever happened to Jay? I mean when all this was happening? We've seen Tim go down, and then Brian and Seth.

When did Jay 'disappear' and why isn't there any taped footage of it? We've gone through all the old tapes now (unless we haven't) and we know that Tim has something to do with the burnt out hospital and maybe the Operator and Alex has lived near an Operator-centric park as a child (and debatably had an extra guest at his birthday). But what about our other main character?

Why did Alex think it was okay to give Jay the tapes at all instead of burning them outright? Why was TTA filming Jay (seemingly) long before all this started? (TTA filming Jay getting batteries out of his boot for Alex in Exit.)

Damn, I know Jay's relationship with the Ark, Alex and everything is one of the central mysteries of this story but I really wanted to see *something.*

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