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Sarah is totheark and this is why. (long.)
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pravado
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Alex says, "Uh, I dunno. He'll move. Uh, let's go ahead and get this shot. It is so hot. Brian, we have the camera cut. Just get set to control it, and we'll be out of here in a moment."

Do you hear yourself. That makes no sense. I can clearly hear the word seth.

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The Slender Man
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Troy is notorious for having multiple actors portray the same character. You CANNOT go by builds.
And if Sarah is Totheark I will be most disappointed.

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Okay, back to the being shot in the eye thing: A Christmas Story.

No, just kidding. What if someone shot at Sarah, and she thought it was coming from somewhere else, and whipped her head (hair) back (and forth) to face where she thought the shot was coming from and it, as someone previously stated, grazed her eyeball.

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Really interesting theory, Percolator. I've been rewatching the series, and Sarah is conspicuous in her absence; if she's TTA, I won't be at all disappointed. My suspicion -- based on nothing more than intuition -- is that the bullet casing is a red herring, but your theory hangs together well enough even without that.

Thanks for all your hard work with this, and don't let the trolls get you down.
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pravado
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The bullet casing has an easy explanation: someone bought a gun after being stalked by the operator and shot at it. Explains the lack of blood along with the existance of the casing. But yeah, red herring.

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sweetgums
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pravado wrote:
The bullet casing has an easy explanation: someone bought a gun after being stalked by the operator and shot at it. Explains the lack of blood along with the existance of the casing. But yeah, red herring.

But there WAS blood - on the sink and a little bit on the floor. Tbh, though, I think it's more associated to slendy sickness rather than a bullet injury, though I can't discard the possibility that someone (Alex, probably) shot another human being. Still, odds are really low on that.

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jenni42ld
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Oh. My. God.
It all makes sense.
Ok, the important line that gives it all away is the "Do you feel like you're underwater?"
It's the house. Brian's house. He was underwater on the mortgage, he owed more than it was worth. He trashed the house before he left because he was mad, and then just walked away, leaving it to the bank to deal with. He took a shot at either a bank rep or a realtor, that is who we know as The Operator. And Alex works for the bank. He tipped them off that Brian wasli trashing the house and they sent The Operator to evict him first. Then later on Tim squatted in the house since he knew from both Brian and Alex that it was empty. So now The Operator is lurking around to try and get paperwork, but he's scared from almost being shot.
Anything this theory doesn't answer: swamp gas.
Clearly Troy and Joseph have created this poignant narrative of how the housing bust and recession are tearing friends apart. Marble Hornets will be watching in history classes in the future to give students an idea of what it was like living in our time.
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pravado
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sweetgums wrote:
pravado wrote:
The bullet casing has an easy explanation: someone bought a gun after being stalked by the operator and shot at it. Explains the lack of blood along with the existance of the casing. But yeah, red herring.

But there WAS blood - on the sink and a little bit on the floor. Tbh, though, I think it's more associated to slendy sickness rather than a bullet injury, though I can't discard the possibility that someone (Alex, probably) shot another human being. Still, odds are really low on that.


now you're making things up

there was no blood on the floor (a gunshot would have had a pool of blood or at least visible blood, anything you saw was from the trail from the sink) and the trail from the blood in the sink led to a pill bottle. entry 44 couldn't have made it more clear that the blood in the sink came from slendy sickness. alex could have thrown up that blood anywhere but they chose a sink, i wonder why

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sweetgums
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pravado wrote:
sweetgums wrote:
pravado wrote:
The bullet casing has an easy explanation: someone bought a gun after being stalked by the operator and shot at it. Explains the lack of blood along with the existance of the casing. But yeah, red herring.

But there WAS blood - on the sink and a little bit on the floor. Tbh, though, I think it's more associated to slendy sickness rather than a bullet injury, though I can't discard the possibility that someone (Alex, probably) shot another human being. Still, odds are really low on that.


now you're making things up

there was no blood on the floor (a gunshot would have had a pool of blood or at least visible blood, anything you saw was from the trail from the sink) and the trail from the blood in the sink led to a pill bottle. entry 44 couldn't have made it more clear that the blood in the sink came from slendy sickness. alex could have thrown up that blood anywhere but they chose a sink, i wonder why

Like I said, I myself think that's a really far-fetched idea. I merely said that I didn't disregard it simply because we can't prove it didn't happen, as unlikely as it is. And YES, even if it is about 90+% likely that it was Alex shooting at TO and not hitting anything, we can't really say with absolute certainty that that's what happened, because they haven't shown us just what happened.

As for the "pool" of blood? That really depends of where you are hit, and if you decide to stay still after you've been shot. I mean, it's blood, not water, it's not like it rushes out of the body like from a water hose, it trickles down (how do we know that said hypothetical victim didn't have a chance to get to the sink before the blood started reaching the floor?); and again, depending of WHERE you were hit.

And for the last time, no pravado, I'm not saying this is what actually happened, I'm merely stating a somewhat improbable theory, but not down-right impossible. I'm just having fun!

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sweetgums wrote:
pravado wrote:
sweetgums wrote:
pravado wrote:
The bullet casing has an easy explanation: someone bought a gun after being stalked by the operator and shot at it. Explains the lack of blood along with the existance of the casing. But yeah, red herring.

But there WAS blood - on the sink and a little bit on the floor. Tbh, though, I think it's more associated to slendy sickness rather than a bullet injury, though I can't discard the possibility that someone (Alex, probably) shot another human being. Still, odds are really low on that.


now you're making things up

there was no blood on the floor (a gunshot would have had a pool of blood or at least visible blood, anything you saw was from the trail from the sink) and the trail from the blood in the sink led to a pill bottle. entry 44 couldn't have made it more clear that the blood in the sink came from slendy sickness. alex could have thrown up that blood anywhere but they chose a sink, i wonder why

Like I said, I myself think that's a really far-fetched idea. I merely said that I didn't disregard it simply because we can't prove it didn't happen, as unlikely as it is. And YES, even if it is about 90+% likely that it was Alex shooting at TO and not hitting anything, we can't really say with absolute certainty that that's what happened, because they haven't shown us just what happened.

As for the "pool" of blood? That really depends of where you are hit, and if you decide to stay still after you've been shot. I mean, it's blood, not water, it's not like it rushes out of the body like from a water hose, it trickles down (how do we know that said hypothetical victim didn't have a chance to get to the sink before the blood started reaching the floor?); and again, depending of WHERE you were hit.

And for the last time, no pravado, I'm not saying this is what actually happened, I'm merely stating a somewhat improbable theory, but not down-right impossible. I'm just having fun!

Don't worry, prav just hates other ppl having fun
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If you get shot, especially at close range, there will be a spray pattern from the blood released on entry. If you get shot, you're going to fall over, there will be blood on the ground.

This isn't a mid-nineties Schwarzenegger movie, there are no superficial GSW.

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pravado
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^what he said


this may be the worst unfiction post i ever make, but i'm bored so let's analyze this

first let me denounce your theories: if someone gets shot blood will trickle fast, and if they get shot in a vein, it will spray. if someone truely did get shot, the blood in the sink would have to be from an upper body wound. (in before people spew out that nonsense about totheark being shot in the eye by alex - if you were shot in the eye you'd be dead. Shit mostly anywhere above the nose and you'd be dead.) If they got shot in an arm or something, okay fine, but why even include that casing in the story then? The blood is found next to pills that treat headaches. We've all seen entry 44, we know alex coughs into a sink and we know the slender sickness causes headaches. Put two and two together and you will see the blood comes from that, not a gunshot.


there's blood in the sink when jay finds the casing. the blood is dry. whoever was there didn't give a shit about cleaning it up. this implies that if there was blood on the floor, they didn't care about cleaning that up either, and that would be significantly harder to clean. they'd have to call a cleaning service to come clean it. considering it would be a murder, they wouldn't do that.

so we find a casing but no body or bullet. then you have to think about someone planting it there. but guess what. tim takes the bullet casing off of jay. tim and totheark are really the only two people who would have told jay to go to that house at that time (alex might be a third candidate and it may have been a sacrifice, but alex wouldn't have planted a bullet casing considering he is the most likely candidate to fire the shot since we know he owns a gun). why would tim (who is working with totheark seen by entry 45) plant a bullet, let jay find it, then take it back? before someone says "it's entirely possible" - realize that you are directly calling trosephim shitty writers if you do. "hey guys lets have tim leave this there for jay then steal it right back for no reason at all other than for jay to see it" - it wasn't even really in plain sight.

so this leaves the fact that someone shot a gun there, there was no evidence of anyone being shot since there was no blood at all. this implies that one of two things happened (i really don't think there can be any other scenarios but amuse me if you can think of any)

1) someone was testing out a gun and shot the wall and jay missed the hole in the wall while he was searching the house (in which case the bullet casing wouldn't even be included in the story)

2) someone shot at the operator, who has mysterious powers that probably render him immune to bullets and the bullet is probably lodged inside of him or something

So while it's not 100% definite by what we've seen, unless you can think of another scenario, in my eyes it is a 100% definite scenario. If there was any sort of counterargument that percentage would drop, but I cannot think of one case where there would be no blood on the floor other than those two scenarios. If someone got shot there wouldn't be little blood drips. Alex is bleeding from his head in entry 14. All the blood we've seen thus far in the series has been from slendy sickness.

And I don't like shitting on people's parades, but the world isn't all dandelions. People have to be called out and counterargued on sketchy theories rather than told "it's ok because it's just a theory, you're not wrong in your ridiculous assumption because they haven't shown us anything so your ridiculous logic can still be true." And i'm not saying that for this topic since this guy didn't even have a theory and his counterargument was basically telling me my completely plausible theory was far fetched. This site is getting far too worrysome about petty debate. If everyone agreed with everyone in every thread this site would devolve into marble pornets jokes and circlejerk banter, I try to keep it relevant to the subject at hand, sue me.

If someone says something I disagree with, I"m going to voice my opinion. I mostly only post counterarguments anyway, which is why you associate me with being negative.

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sweetgums
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jesus christ.

I feel like this forum alone brings you immeasurable amounts of frustration, pravado, so I'm not going to say anything else for the sake of your health, even though I am as entitled to an opinion as you are, but whatever. I just sincerely hope that you're at least enjoying yourself, because yes, life is not dandelions and happy clouds, but why add that drama to the internet? To a forum where people like to discuss a fictional series everyone enjoys?

And conundrum, you're right; I hadn't thought of a close-range shot. Thanks for pointing that out to me in a civil, nice fashion.

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pravado
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It's only drama if you make it drama. I don't consider it drama. I'm a realist at heart and if I have to criticize people's views to get my point across more clearly then I will. I'd rather have the content in my posts addressed rather than my snarkiness.

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flaws in the way you express yourself, Pravado. And to think that everyone here follows the series to the same extent as you. My first intervention in this forum was followed by a very strong answer from you. I almost stopped writing here.
You may be right, it sounds very consistent all you say, but you can not demand from others the same dedication to the series that you have. I think that's why your friends stopped watching the series of MH.

Regarding the bullet casing, already the entry was published when I discovered MH, the theory of shot against the operator sounds good, but then the cap would only have the purpose of showing the invulnerability of Op, or its speed... but it is of a theory like that which you love so little, because there is no more data than endorse...

Remember that the place where is the cap is somehow connected to the basement of the hospital (doors are being portals ...) although I do not know how this could affect.

Regards.

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