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[VIDEO] Session
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baseballfuries08 wrote:
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im starting to think we missed something in an earlier totheark video

he keeps telling us to look closely and that there are secrets everywhere. maybe his past videos have some significance now, like the one with brian in the car.

he says "see you soon" after a picture of the burned out building that tim and jay are about to head to. are we about to find out who tta is?



This is exactly what I thought... Two and a half years and he keeps telling us to look closer...

Can't get much closer than a spectorgraphic image, and so far, nothing hidden in this video.

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Megarain wrote:
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The structure in question in this video is not the sawmill.The entire front of the sawmill is open and the shape of the openings are not similar.Also--the vents on the structure in this video do not exist on the sawmill.

It is possible for a sawmill to have more than one set of doors.


Quite true.But I posted stills on another TTA video thread (Reminder) that displayed pretty much every angle of the sawmill and given the physics of the structure in this entry,it's not possible for them to be the same building.The sides and back of the sawmill are solid walls with no other openings except for at the back where there are openings that run the length of the upstairs.
However--the structure in REMINDER looks like it COULD be the same structure/building shown in this video.
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amrith777 wrote:
Megarain wrote:
amrith777 wrote:
The structure in question in this video is not the sawmill.The entire front of the sawmill is open and the shape of the openings are not similar.Also--the vents on the structure in this video do not exist on the sawmill.

It is possible for a sawmill to have more than one set of doors.


Quite true.But I posted stills on another TTA video thread (Reminder) that displayed pretty much every angle of the sawmill and given the physics of the structure in this entry,it's not possible for them to be the same building.The sides and back of the sawmill are solid walls with no other openings except for at the back where there are openings that run the length of the upstairs.
However--the structure in REMINDER looks like it COULD be the same structure/building shown in this video.

Review in the video(REMINDER), I posit this solution:

The side doors we see are for French Winches. They aren't all that uncommon for sawmills, and we wouldn't see them when they were closed.

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Megarain wrote:
amrith777 wrote:
Megarain wrote:
amrith777 wrote:
The structure in question in this video is not the sawmill.The entire front of the sawmill is open and the shape of the openings are not similar.Also--the vents on the structure in this video do not exist on the sawmill.

It is possible for a sawmill to have more than one set of doors.


Quite true.But I posted stills on another TTA video thread (Reminder) that displayed pretty much every angle of the sawmill and given the physics of the structure in this entry,it's not possible for them to be the same building.The sides and back of the sawmill are solid walls with no other openings except for at the back where there are openings that run the length of the upstairs.
However--the structure in REMINDER looks like it COULD be the same structure/building shown in this video.

Review in the video(REMINDER), I posit this solution:

The side doors we see are for French Winches. They aren't all that uncommon for sawmills, and we wouldn't see them when they were closed.


I am not educated regarding such things,so for now I guess all I can say is that I suppose we'll have to wait and see if any future entries elucidate things in a more definitive manner.
That having been said--this TTA entry really amps up my anticipation for the next MH entry as they have really been laying it on thick that something MAJOR is about to be revealed.It will be really awesome to see an entry in present day and seeing things as they unfold.... Smile
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Although it was my first thought, I personally don't think the structure in Session fits the architecture of the sawmill. I lean toward the Session structure being some previously unseen building. Maybe a dilapidated barn as Ithilwen22 suggested?
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I'm definitely throwing my hat in the ring with those suggesting that the figure in the final frame is Alex. Sure, "he's watching" is ambiguous and could easily mean the Operator too. Actually TTA is probably being clever and referring to both Alex and the Operator. We pretty much already know that Alex knows that Jay is posting videos (that's why Alex was going to kill him in entry 52), so if Alex survived, there's no reason why he wouldn't be watching the MH channel to see what Jay is doing.

You know, what if Tim/Jay's meeting is a mirror of Entry #35 - only it's Alex who's waiting to ambush them?
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Here comes a speculation wall, ladies and gents.

Sucks that I always come in so late, but the lack of warning (like usual) allowed this to slip past me. I went back and read all five pages and there are so many different freaking theories and speculations, that it's almost frustrating. Totheark put things in there strategically to represent certain things, but only he is one hundred percent sure of exactly what. These dern puzzles, odds are, aren't helping Jay or anybody else. They're just overly cryptic and ambiguous. Not to say I don't love Totheark for his mysteriousness, but it sucks not knowing exactly what he knows. Which I guess is the point.

I'm breaking down my thoughts to organize myself a little, based on the phrases that were shown through out the course of the video.

1. Fist of all, the video's title. I have almost nothing to decipher from it, but somebody on YouTube said it related to Tim being going to a mental health clinic. Therapy SESSION? Also, with the kid in the beginning of the entry, people keep saying that something or somebody was creeping up behind him while he was adjusting the projector, but I think he was just filming in a mirror or something and that was the result of the adjusting light causing a shift in the reflexion angle. If you look, you can see the reflection of the light eventually.

2. "One day you will understand." This goes to show that there is a lot about what's going on right now that Jay simply does not know. It also sounds to me like Totheark is trying to "teach" him for lack of a better word, or maybe they're trying to bring something out of him that he doesn't realize he knows. As psychopathic as Totheark is alleged to be, I think one of their primary intentions is getting Jay to get a gist of what's needed to end all of this. Or an understanding of the unanswered questions. The video adressing this NOW, after all this time, makes me feel like whatever Jay really needs to understand will be coming into light pretty soon.

3. "Secrets everywhere." I started adding prepositional phrases and such to form these chopped up phrases into coherent sentences, and that would then translate to "One day you will understand...that there are... secrets everywhere." That would be indicating that Jay has been being too naive up to this point, or he hasn't been deducing well enough or looking hard enough. On the other hand, it could also justbe its own interjection that has nothing to do with the previous one, in which case, it would have different meanings. It was shown as young students were watching something on a projector. Perhaps Jay needs to watch something that has been cryptically "projected." XP

4. "Liars everywhere." Obviously, somebody is lying. I really don't want to accept the possibility that Timnesia hasn't been genuine, but it's a possiblity. Wouldn't be as fun, but whatever. However, it doesn't necessarily refer to Tim, despite the fact that Tim has been the only person in close contact with Jay lately. It could also pretain to Alex's lies, long-term, or may pretain to something that we've seen in the previous entries. Or, it could be enterpreted even more cryptically: if you break it down enough, you can translate it like this: "Ark-Liars-->Arkliars-->Krliars-->Krailers-->Krailey." Could either be insinuating that Alex IS the liar, or that Alex is "everywhere," or, more sensibly, that he's simply still around. Have no idea what to think about the puppet show, though, except that dude-hanging-from-tree reminds me of Alex's story in Entry 38, or something.

5. "Look closely and you will know." Once again, there is something Jay knows but doesn't know he knows, or needs to find out for the sake of Totheark's final goal, which is probably defeating the Operator and getting to the ark. Regardless, I get the feeling that Toteark just neds Jay to do more detective work, and they need him to find out something, some information that they need. This is probably the location or otherwise the general secrets of the ark. The answers are nearby, and Jay isn't being observant enough to catch them. I only wonder why, if Totheark knows where and how close these secrets are, do they need Jay in particular to know about it? I don't know about the classroom and the creepy teacher dude. Don't know about the spider, either.

6. The biggest connection I got from the ToTheSchool thing was that the burnt-out buildings Alex had visited before having the Oppy nom on people was intended to be Brian's school when he was in elementary. This loosely implies that Totheark is Brian, or Brian is at least a part of it. Also, Totheark is trying to get Jay to learn something. Where do you learn? School. That may be what the school was representing: Jay "learning" as his journey continues. DRIVING to the school may represent Jay's journey itself; it may represent that he's getting closer. It may also be encouragement for him to to the annex, like he will be in the next entry, most likely.

7. "See you soon." The very first thing that popped into my head was that this referred to Tim, and that this implied that Tim (or Masky, whatever) made the video and is giving an indication that the latter is, or is part of, Totheark, and "soon" is when Tim takes Jay to this crusty abandoned annex place. When I thought about it, I considered that it could also have nothing to do with Tim, and could be somebody else having to do with Totheark saying that they'll meet Jay and Tim at the annex when they go there. Special third-season Hoody appearence? In any event, this video did not seem hostile in the least bit, so I would assume that Totheark, the next time we see him in person, is not going to ambush Tim and Jay or whatever. Also: I have no idea what was on that screen that the kid was looking at.

8. And then there's the fun "He's Watching" thing. I at first thought that was the Operator, but he just looks so short. Made me think it could be Alex, implying that, like I said before, Alex is still around, and is continuing to follow Jay's channel; this would mean that Alex knows Jay is going to the annex, and there's a possibility that we could see him there, along with Totheark, if that's what's going down. It doesn't necessarily mean that Alex will show up in the next entry, but it means Jay is getting stalked in ONE way or another. Either by the Oppy or by Alex, in case the shadow dude was actually the former. But the fact that this figure was standing in the middle of a doorway that looked as though it led to a barn or something, like a few people said, is symbolically relevant to Entry 52. And the fact that there's footage of it confuses me further. What was Totheark doing in a barn, filming Oppy/Alex? It would mean that they came into an encounter with either one of them recently, or the footage could be from a long time ago. Either way, it's just weird. And let's just assume it IS the Operator for a minute--that would be the second time TTA managed to get video of him without the camera distorting.

Got way more out of this than any of the previous entries. However, it's obviously produced more questions than answers. Oh, Totheark, you cunning mysterious entity, you.
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Kind of a silly question, but did anyone let Jay know that TTA responded?
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Do people USUALLY let Jay know? If he IS aware, he didn't tweet about it yet. If somebody should let him know, I'll do it. XP
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Jay will tweet about the new TTA vid whether someone tells him or not. It's one of the unwritten rules of Marble Hornets.

As for the figure at the end, is it really too short to be Op? For one thing I'm skeptical about how consistent his dimensions are throughout the series (shit, for all we know he can change shape at will). If it's Alex I'm a little befuddled as to how TTA managed to get the footage unless it's very very old. It also looks a lot - I mean almost deliberately - like the tunnel figure in #29, who is generally agreed to be the big guy though there are some dissenting opinions on that.

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Did anyone else get the impression that totheark expects Jay to live through this from "One day you will understand?". Whenever I hear a "one day you will x" phrase, it always seems like they mean one day in the far future.

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Andvalli wrote:
As for the figure at the end, is it really too short to be Op? For one thing I'm skeptical about how consistent his dimensions are throughout the series (shit, for all we know he can change shape at will). If it's Alex I'm a little befuddled as to how TTA managed to get the footage unless it's very very old. It also looks a lot - I mean almost deliberately - like the tunnel figure in #29, who is generally agreed to be the big guy though there are some dissenting opinions on that.


The figure at the end is iffy, most definitely. And Oppy can most likely change shapes and height because the aforementioned physical traits have inevitably varied through out the series, so I'll give you that point. But I usually found the legs of The Slenderator to be abnormally/disproportionately long, and here, I'm just not getting that. I'm kind of in the camp of Alex, but it can certainly be the Operator too. As for how Totheark got footage of it, that would be weird, like I said, but it would have been equally as curious if he got footage of Slendy too with no distortion. Along with Return.

Also, there's debate about the tunnel figure? One was Alex (the one depicted in Decay) and one was the Operator. I might have to go back and rewatch Entry 49, but I always thought that was obvious...

Keegah wrote:
Did anyone else get the impression that totheark expects Jay to live through this from "One day you will understand?".


I always suspected Jay would live through this. :I
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Er, #29, not #49. The really short blood-in-the-tunnel entry that ended with the camera pointing at a silhouette in the distance

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Jamocha101 wrote:
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Did anyone else get the impression that totheark expects Jay to live through this from "One day you will understand?".


I always suspected Jay would live through this. :I

Why? You've got a homicidal, maniacal antagonist in Alex and a mysterious, paranormal, almost certainly antagonistic eldritch abomination in the Operator. Jay's survival through the events of this series is not at all certain. Especially when you factor in Troseph's narrative style - I wouldn't be surprised at all if Marble Hornets ended with everyone dead, maybe with a final totheark video to conclude things. Though as I said, totheark - in my opinion - seems to think Jay will survive.

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Re: [VIDEO] Session

Luipaard wrote:

Looks like TTA and Jay will be meeting soon...


Well yeah, Jay's having him lead them to the abandoned old building. They'll probably have to make a weekend out of it.

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