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[VIDEO] Entry #58
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sweetgums
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rand__althor wrote:
So in his tweet, J mentioned he was feeling sick, presumably from his visit to the hospital. Nothing in this entry seems to be the cause of that.

Pretty sure I heard Jay cough a bit when he jumped down to the maintenance tunnel, so maybe it was an exposure kind of thing?
Of course, he had just been running. So maybe the annex in general is a place packed with slendy bad vibes.

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The main thing that stood out to me was that Tim mentioned having grown up in the area. Jessica said the same thing, and it was implied that both of them have had problems with the Operator for a long time. I would not consider it too farfetched for Jessica to be a part of TTA anymore.
Jay learned not to go somewhere at night!
The shot of Tim under the tree was reminiscent of Hoody, which was a great way to bring him back. Actually, the whole entry was very meta. Discussion of graffiti, of trespassing... it reminded me of the creator interviews.
It also reminded me of them luring Alex somewhere, then trying to crack his head open. I wasn't so sure it was benevolent.
It seems like the "Tim remembered the whole time" camp took a hit with this video. I liked the limp coming back, it definitely seemed as though old memories were resurfacing.

Personally, my theory after this entry seems to have been reinforced. Masky is just what Tim does when he has those memories – the mask is in some way protective, or necessary for that purpose. His lack of conversational skills as those memories came back definitely rang true to our eternally silent Masky of season 1. All in all, great entry, and definitely not filler.
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azureillusions wrote:
I liked the limp coming back, it definitely seemed as though old memories were resurfacing.


Wait holy crap did this happen? I completely missed that!

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 		And so the epic debate on whether it was Skully/Woodsy or Hoodie on that fateful night when Alex chased them has been ended. I liked the entry, more elaboration to come as I catch up with the rest of the thread.

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sweetgums
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pravado wrote:
Tim clearly remembers this seen in the entry with the rebar and this one, so i'm guessing whatever went down there was the cause of his psychosis.

Not necessarily, like I mentioned before Tim might've had a pre-MH incident in that hospital, so we still can't be sure if he really has amnesia or not.

azureillusions wrote:
The main thing that stood out to me was that Tim mentioned having grown up in the area. Jessica said the same thing, and it was implied that both of them have had problems with the Operator for a long time

If you mean Jessica's dream, I always took it as that after her (albeit unknown to her) exposure to TO, she was so stressed she kept having bad dreams where she was just like a lost kid, feeling vulnerable, and that "someone was watching her", so she didn't actually had a past connection with TO. Though I could be wrong.

azureillusions wrote:
I liked the limp coming back, it definitely seemed as though old memories were resurfacing.

Seriously? I totally missed that! When did it happen?

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catgirl789 wrote:
And so the epic debate on whether it was Skully/Woodsy or Hoodie on that fateful night when Alex chased them has been ended. I liked the entry, more elaboration to come as I catch up with the rest of the thread.


we found out it was definitely hoody back in the 45 or 46 thread, just the night vision made his mask look a little different. they wouldn't have given two masked characters the same exact sweatshirt. hoody and woodsy are the same person btw, woodsy was just the first name he was given

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 		[quote="sweetgums"]
pravado wrote:
Tim clearly remembers this seen in the entry with the rebar and this one, so i'm guessing whatever went down there was the cause of his psychosis.

Not necessarily, like I mentioned before Tim might've had a pre-MH incident in that hospital, so we still can't be sure if he really has amnesia or not.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but he claims to not want to go to the annex really badly in both entries. That's enough to show he remembers something going down there.

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pravado wrote:
@reverend, if alex associated a story that wasn't actually the operator's origin with the operator, wouldn't that still be them creating an origin story for him even if it's a fake one that alex made up?

Rolling Eyes

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pravado
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ReverendJ wrote:
pravado wrote:
@reverend, if alex associated a story that wasn't actually the operator's origin with the operator, wouldn't that still be them creating an origin story for him even if it's a fake one that alex made up?

Rolling Eyes


nice counter argument

you're saying he's associating the story with the operator because he thinks it would fit him nicely, but that would be alex creating an origin story for the operator whether it was truthful or not

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lawlmarcus
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pravado wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
pravado wrote:
@reverend, if alex associated a story that wasn't actually the operator's origin with the operator, wouldn't that still be them creating an origin story for him even if it's a fake one that alex made up?

Rolling Eyes


nice counter argument

you're saying he's associating the story with the operator because he thinks it would fit him nicely, but that would be alex creating an origin story for the operator whether it was truthful or not

No. What we're saying is that he saw this story, and identified with it. He didn't make any direct connection, saying "THESE SITUATIONS ARE RELATED." He, theoretically, heard the story, and thought "these situations are SIMILAR."

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pravado wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
pravado wrote:
@reverend, if alex associated a story that wasn't actually the operator's origin with the operator, wouldn't that still be them creating an origin story for him even if it's a fake one that alex made up?

Rolling Eyes


nice counter argument

you're saying he's associating the story with the operator because he thinks it would fit him nicely, but that would be alex creating an origin story for the operator whether it was truthful or not
If someone says something dumb I'm going to roll my eyes.

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pravado
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lawlmarcus wrote:
pravado wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
pravado wrote:
@reverend, if alex associated a story that wasn't actually the operator's origin with the operator, wouldn't that still be them creating an origin story for him even if it's a fake one that alex made up?

Rolling Eyes


nice counter argument

you're saying he's associating the story with the operator because he thinks it would fit him nicely, but that would be alex creating an origin story for the operator whether it was truthful or not

No. What we're saying is that he saw this story, and identified with it. He didn't make any direct connection, saying "THESE SITUATIONS ARE RELATED." He, theoretically, heard the story, and thought "these situations are SIMILAR."


which would be, in the script, alex giving jay an origin story to the operator, even if that's not what was intended by alex. jay is going to take it as an origin story because it directly fits the profile of the operator's appearance.

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pravado
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ReverendJ wrote:
pravado wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
pravado wrote:
@reverend, if alex associated a story that wasn't actually the operator's origin with the operator, wouldn't that still be them creating an origin story for him even if it's a fake one that alex made up?

Rolling Eyes


nice counter argument

you're saying he's associating the story with the operator because he thinks it would fit him nicely, but that would be alex creating an origin story for the operator whether it was truthful or not
If someone says something dumb I'm going to roll my eyes.


there's a difference between using that line in an argument where there is room for counter argument, and using that line when someone just says something stupid that can in no way be truthful. don't be ignorant

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 		Tim burned the hospital, and Jay's old apartment down. just sayin

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pravado
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guillaume wrote:
Tim burned the hospital, and Jay's old apartment down. just sayin


I'd just like to mention that the TV has the operator "teleport in" distortion occur as it pans over the crowd. This doesn't really confirm anything except that someone that Jay obviously knew/someone that was being tracked by the operator was there watching it burn down, meaning it had to be alex, tim, or hoody imo (since the operator can't light a lighter with his nubs)

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